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hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 05:54:51
September 05 2011 05:54 GMT
#1021
On September 05 2011 14:45 GP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 14:42 hasuterrans wrote:
On September 05 2011 14:41 GP wrote:
Not unexpected, but I don't understand the obsession figures in the team community have with airing dirty laundry. This shouldn't be about pointing the finger and saying "he did this and this and this!" Why is it so hard to not issue a release on the website that says something along the lines of "there was a disagreement in the contract and both parties couldn't come to terms so we decided to split ways! We wish him luck in the future!"?

Less drama, more competition, please!


This thread only took off after Skew's posts.

I'm not talking about the thread or whatever Skew said, I'm talking about Sixjax lampooning the player they just parted ways with on their website. If Major's really that hard to work with, he'll get what he deserves, and no one will want to sponsor him, there's no sense stirring shit.


Given the discussion in this thread and on reddit SJ is protecting their brand. They responded in this way due to comments from Major and allegations that they threatened to sue him. I'm not saying I agree with them though, just speculating as to their motivation..
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
September 05 2011 05:55 GMT
#1022
On September 05 2011 14:19 radiantshadow92 wrote:
im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said.


It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
September 05 2011 05:56 GMT
#1023
Who gives a crap about this thread and reddit? No-one of any importance, that is for sure. If a sponsor wants to know what is going on, they won't go to reddit, they'll go to sixjax management.

Airing their laundry like that is not good business practice.
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 05:59:04
September 05 2011 05:58 GMT
#1024
On September 05 2011 14:56 Jinsho wrote:
Who gives a crap about this thread and reddit? No-one of any importance, that is for sure. If a sponsor wants to know what is going on, they won't go to reddit, they'll go to sixjax management.

Airing their laundry like that is not good business practice.


SJ is the sponsor.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#1025
On September 05 2011 14:56 Jinsho wrote:
Who gives a crap about this thread and reddit? No-one of any importance, that is for sure. If a sponsor wants to know what is going on, they won't go to reddit, they'll go to sixjax management.

Airing their laundry like that is not good business practice.

Are you really that naive? Public opinion means a lot, and if the opinion is that Sixjax is shit, then thats bad for business, future sponsors, and future recruits to the team.
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Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
September 05 2011 06:01 GMT
#1026
On September 05 2011 14:23 wats0n wrote:
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On September 05 2011 14:19 Dox wrote:
I think the latest statement from SixJax is blatantly transparent. Dunno what more people want from them. All I see is three pages of people spewing, "LIES!!!"


I think you're blatantly transparent. You're like the jilted ex-lover that has turned into a stalker. How long are you going to keep this fire burning because he wronged you? Not to disrespect what happened to you but you're slinging bias around weeks later on separate issues.

Come on, really? What bias? I'm just saying, given his history, you can't lend the guy a great deal of credibility. The SixJax post was very clear and concise. Your stupid analogy is ridiculous, I haven't said a word about the guy since someone decided to create a thread about him cheating in my event. Yep. Totally stalking.

It's disappointing that I'm not allowed to post my own opinion without being lynched or demonised by TL. I don't hold a grudge against the guy. If I was as jilted as you're claiming I am, I'd have probably posted something at least a little bit inflammatory.
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JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 06:03:13
September 05 2011 06:02 GMT
#1027
On September 05 2011 14:52 Jinsho wrote:
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http://www.sixjaxgaming.com/blog/2011/09/dispelling-some-rumors-surrounding-juan-lopezs-release


This is ridiculous. Not sending the best player in the team to Korea because of two jerseys? Or because DDE can't handle some insults and complained to management?

Of course he'd try to shop around, he would never want to stay with sixjax for 15 months after they refused to send him to Korea and MLG for forgetting to wear a jersey.

You'd think they would have simply given him one to wear at the venue and prevented all that crap, and told DDE to not mind what a hotheaded 18yr old. Whoever is managing sixjax is not doing a very good job at actually MANAGING their players, I get the feeling.


EDIT: And what kind of company would ever publicly disclose any of this information?


Actually the only thing ridiculous here are your comments. I'm pretty sure you're just trolling. No management company is going to baby sit their players who can't remember to bring team jerseys to important invents (critical to satisfy sponsors), throw anger tantrums all over the place, and shit on their own teammates. Artosis tried his best but it would appear major has learned nothing after all these years.
FunkQue
Profile Joined October 2010
United States165 Posts
September 05 2011 06:11 GMT
#1028
On September 05 2011 14:52 Jinsho wrote:
Show nested quote +
http://www.sixjaxgaming.com/blog/2011/09/dispelling-some-rumors-surrounding-juan-lopezs-release


This is ridiculous. Not sending the best player in the team to Korea because of two jerseys? Or because DDE can't handle some insults and complained to management?

Of course he'd try to shop around, he would never want to stay with sixjax for 15 months after they refused to send him to Korea and MLG for forgetting to wear a jersey.

You'd think they would have simply given him one to wear at the venue and prevented all that crap, and told DDE to not mind what a hotheaded 18yr old. Whoever is managing sixjax is not doing a very good job at actually MANAGING their players, I get the feeling.


EDIT: And what kind of company would ever publicly disclose any of this information?


Is this a troll?

If you have a job, go in tomorrow and do the following.

Cuss out your coworker, don't wear your uniform, and ask for a raise.

Then tell me what happens.
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
September 05 2011 06:12 GMT
#1029
On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 14:19 radiantshadow92 wrote:
im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said.


It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd.


After reading parts of this thread, it shocks me that you try to explain the layers of this situation. So many ridiculous assumptions :\


And yes artosis has literally nothing to do with the actual sixjax team other than he gets paid by them...
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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
September 05 2011 06:12 GMT
#1030
On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 14:19 radianthere.shadow92 wrote:
im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said.


It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd.


"Juan resented the position of the team management, and insisted that he would find a way out of his obligations. He began mentioning to his teammates that he felt threatened. It wasn't until our team captain, Artosis, spoke to him that he gave up his position.

This is all documented." from here

Sounds like he had a bit more involvement than you would like to give credit for.
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ragealot
Profile Joined July 2011
432 Posts
September 05 2011 06:15 GMT
#1031
All this sounds extremely childish and unprofessional to me. This is why I respect TL and EG (ducks) more than Sixjax. IdrA BM his opponents, matter is dealt with privately and they move on, Ret forgets his jersey for EU Battlenet Invitational, matter is dealt with privately and all is forgiven.
lowreezy08
Profile Joined June 2011
United States143 Posts
September 05 2011 06:15 GMT
#1032
fat 15 year old who has the maturity of a little child, can't even make a formal post with proper sentence structure/grammar. Not surprised this happened, took a while longer than it should've.

User was temp banned for this post.
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Phyxate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States49 Posts
September 05 2011 06:18 GMT
#1033
On September 05 2011 15:15 ragealot wrote:
All this sounds extremely childish and unprofessional to me. This is why I respect TL and EG (ducks) more than Sixjax. IdrA BM his opponents, matter is dealt with privately and they move on, Ret forgets his jersey for EU Battlenet Invitational, matter is dealt with privately and all is forgiven.


Agree 100%.

Teams need to deal with things privately, bringing them on the boards serves no purpose but creating drama. It's nobody elses business why Juan got released other than Juan and Sixjax.

As far as my opinion of Juan - he needs to grow up and stop being so childish before a team should even think about taking him seriously. He's a drama queen.
MyOwnPrison
Profile Joined April 2011
United States17 Posts
September 05 2011 06:31 GMT
#1034
i guess terran has no idea what signing a contract actually entails...what an idiot.
kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 06:42:08
September 05 2011 06:38 GMT
#1035
On September 05 2011 14:16 -_- wrote:
So, apparently Major has sworn twice in his life, and lost some of his possessions at a hotel. I'm very glad Sixjax made a statement and cleared everything up.


well this is his JOB; he's expected to be professional. he's not dealing with his mom who might forgive him for some boo boos lol. if a pro golf player was known for cheating and swearing at others in tournaments, im pretty sure he'd have a hard time finding sponsors..

losing his jersey (which is a form of advertisement and that is very, very important.. also i guess it's a form of professional discipline and it just makes his attitude problem look that much severe ) shows a casual disregard for the interests of his team/sponsor. also, he probably could have contacted his team about his lost jerseys before it was too late but just didnt care enough to do it.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2011 06:42 GMT
#1036
This thread needs more:

Liquid'Princess
I had a good night of sleep.
pampelmus
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Switzerland215 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 06:48:57
September 05 2011 06:47 GMT
#1037
This thread surely reminds me that some of the posters here should maybe go out and live the real life once in a while. There have been a few mudwars on TL concerning players that left teams, and this is just another one. Signs of this are always some not succesful ex-teammembers that write some shady stuff in these threads.

We don't know who is "right".
...if there even is someone who is "right"? It's astounding how two different sides can interpret the same thing totally different. This is the case here. I doubt that we can say "Majors is the guilty one here" oder "sixjax are the evil corporate guys". Chemistry in this relationship was wrong, they parted. Nobody will be sued nor any lives be ruined. Major will be on another teams and the same problems will rise again, as we have seen in the past. It's just some unprofessional people writing in the internetz, who have never been trained in public relations on the sixjax side and are stilling growing up on Majors side.

But, the fact is, as was already said, stuff like this never happens with the "more professional" teams like EG, Liquid, mouz etc. A fact we could draw assumptions from about sixjax management, but they are just assumptions.


turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 06:50:02
September 05 2011 06:48 GMT
#1038
On September 05 2011 15:00 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 14:56 Jinsho wrote:
Who gives a crap about this thread and reddit? No-one of any importance, that is for sure. If a sponsor wants to know what is going on, they won't go to reddit, they'll go to sixjax management.

Airing their laundry like that is not good business practice.

Are you really that naive? Public opinion means a lot, and if the opinion is that Sixjax is shit, then thats bad for business, future sponsors, and future recruits to the team.


but most peoples opinions on sixjax are nothing to do with major


On September 05 2011 15:31 MyOwnPrison wrote:
i guess terran has no idea what signing a contract actually entails...what an idiot.


what would you know about it? you have no idea what his contract actually said, just speculation

but sure, hes the idiot
KingVietKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
September 05 2011 06:50 GMT
#1039
Wow, if I could survive off of baseless assumptions and evidence-less accusations this thread would be fucking Thanksgiving.

Also,

On September 05 2011 15:42 Koshi wrote:
This thread needs more:

Liquid'Princess


No, no no no no no no no. Don't even joke about starting that one, it's like jokingly throwing a match onto a puddle of gas.
khazgore
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway104 Posts
September 05 2011 06:50 GMT
#1040
Did he start a scene with WBC? i only remembering major left the first game he lost without a gg, then next game wbc wins and ggs out, last game WBC wins again and comes with an offensive early gg when hes ahead, then major writes good job idiot... was that all? or did something happen outside of the game aswell? i need to hear it!
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