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On September 05 2011 16:41 VPCursed wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 16:29 lizzuma wrote:On September 05 2011 15:52 turdburgler wrote:On September 05 2011 15:50 khazgore wrote:Did he start a scene with WBC? i only remembering major left the first game he lost without a gg, then next game wbc wins and ggs out, last game WBC wins again and comes with an offensive early gg when hes ahead, then major writes good job idiot... was that all? or did something happen outside of the game aswell  ? i need to hear it! from reading most of the thread this seems to be the greatest thing that never happen -_- noone seems to be aware anything ever happened. does anyone have any idea in which game major supposedly swore at dde? since they just say "online" and i never heard anything about it at all. alright guys, ill do the favor and clear the air on this for you. I was with complexity at the time watching the last games of the day including Catz (i had been knocked out by inka winners round 2). I was watching wbc vs major game 3. WBC did say "gg?" in game 3 when victory was apparant. major typed out "good job, idiot," then gg'ed out shortly after. WBC went to shake his hand after game and major replied "fuck off." I was watching from about where the refs sit inside the player area so it was pretty audible. choose to believe me or not, thats what happened. Who would offensive gg at a lan? im sure many people would have gave the same response
I agree with this. But the whole story makes Major sound *very* immature, and it doesn't shine the best of lights on Sixjax either. I don't think either side has really won, it's just an uncomfortable situation for everybody. :/
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On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:
It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd.
Wow. Now you're sandbagging the guy that got you a contract.
Nice.
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I actually ended up casting WBC vs MajOr (lol), its on MLG.tv so go watch the cast if you want to see the BM and all the chat.... its in there, there was abit more than just what Lizzuma said (I think that's the jist of game 3, but there was some chat in game 2 as well, but I can't really remember, I recall it being relatively childish from both sides tho...), in terms of the RL interaction afterwards, I'm sure Lizzuma is correct.
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On September 05 2011 16:40 Blaec wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 16:19 Noktix wrote:On September 05 2011 16:02 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 15:12 Synwave wrote:On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 14:19 radianthere.shadow92 wrote:im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said. It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd. "Juan resented the position of the team management, and insisted that he would find a way out of his obligations. He began mentioning to his teammates that he felt threatened. It wasn't until our team captain, Artosis, spoke to him that he gave up his position. This is all documented." from here Sounds like he had a bit more involvement than you would like to give credit for. Let's roleplay this shit out on Skype: Evoli invites Artosis to the discussion.Evoli: Artosis, can you please talk with MajOr and straighten things out. He refuses to stop asking to leave because he fails to understand that he signed a contract that says no matter how bad Sixjax sticks things up his butt and lies to him, he can't do anything about it. Artosis: juan listen to evoli he's right. man i'm tired, i've gotta go cast. have fun you two. MajOr: but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan they're so dumbbbbbbbbb and they say they'll send me to koreaaaaaaaaaaaa but they dooooooooooooooooont and they lieeeeeeeeeeeeeee fuk man i want out of this team man pls mang? Artosis has left the discussion.Evoli: Juan just try to calm down and listen to Artosis, everything's going to be OK. MajOr: maaaaaaaaaaaaan fuk man wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff OK. Sorry. Officially Documented Sixjax Team Captain Artosis had an Officially Documented Meeting with Documented Sixjax Player MajOr and it's all Officially Documented. You're right. Plus they made that post on a fucking blog on a fucking REAL COMPANY WEBSITE. That's obviously legit, just like their business model. Skew keeping it professional and mature, clearly. I didn't really have an opinion of Skew but this is just pathetic. This has nothing to do with you and you're stiring up drama for no reason. It's pretty sad. This thread has become a debate of whether Major/Terran or Sixjax is the bad guy here. Skew who has relevant experience comes to share his opinion, and you say this has nothing to do with him? wtf?
Relevant experience? What has he said other than random shit talking on Sixjax?
No real evidence, just attacking the team when it isn't needed. Adding more drama to the situation. If Skew had a problem with Sixjax this is far from the way to handle that.
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On September 05 2011 16:40 Blaec wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 16:19 Noktix wrote:On September 05 2011 16:02 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 15:12 Synwave wrote:On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 14:19 radianthere.shadow92 wrote:im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said. It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd. "Juan resented the position of the team management, and insisted that he would find a way out of his obligations. He began mentioning to his teammates that he felt threatened. It wasn't until our team captain, Artosis, spoke to him that he gave up his position. This is all documented." from here Sounds like he had a bit more involvement than you would like to give credit for. Let's roleplay this shit out on Skype: Evoli invites Artosis to the discussion.Evoli: Artosis, can you please talk with MajOr and straighten things out. He refuses to stop asking to leave because he fails to understand that he signed a contract that says no matter how bad Sixjax sticks things up his butt and lies to him, he can't do anything about it. Artosis: juan listen to evoli he's right. man i'm tired, i've gotta go cast. have fun you two. MajOr: but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan they're so dumbbbbbbbbb and they say they'll send me to koreaaaaaaaaaaaa but they dooooooooooooooooont and they lieeeeeeeeeeeeeee fuk man i want out of this team man pls mang? Artosis has left the discussion.Evoli: Juan just try to calm down and listen to Artosis, everything's going to be OK. MajOr: maaaaaaaaaaaaan fuk man wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff OK. Sorry. Officially Documented Sixjax Team Captain Artosis had an Officially Documented Meeting with Documented Sixjax Player MajOr and it's all Officially Documented. You're right. Plus they made that post on a fucking blog on a fucking REAL COMPANY WEBSITE. That's obviously legit, just like their business model. Skew keeping it professional and mature, clearly. I didn't really have an opinion of Skew but this is just pathetic. This has nothing to do with you and you're stiring up drama for no reason. It's pretty sad. This thread has become a debate of whether Major/Terran or Sixjax is the bad guy here. Skew who has relevant experience comes to share his opinion, and you say this has nothing to do with him? wtf?
Skew left SixJax some time ago and is now badmouthing them in the most primitive way imaginable - to me, he makes SixJax look even better, because if he was acting the same way as he does now, I, as manager of SixJax, would have also tried to get rid of him
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On September 05 2011 16:53 Adebisi wrote:
I actually ended up casting WBC vs MajOr (lol), its on MLG.tv so go watch the cast if you want to see the BM and all the chat.... its in there, there was abit more than just what Lizzuma said (I think that's the jist of game 3, but there was some chat in game 2 as well, but I can't really remember, I recall it being relatively childish from both sides tho...), in terms of the RL interaction afterwards, I'm sure Lizzuma is correct.
which game was it?
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On September 05 2011 16:02 Skew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 15:12 Synwave wrote:On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 14:19 radianthere.shadow92 wrote:im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said. It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd. "Juan resented the position of the team management, and insisted that he would find a way out of his obligations. He began mentioning to his teammates that he felt threatened. It wasn't until our team captain, Artosis, spoke to him that he gave up his position. This is all documented." from here Sounds like he had a bit more involvement than you would like to give credit for. Let's roleplay this shit out on Skype: Evoli invites Artosis to the discussion.Evoli: Artosis, can you please talk with MajOr and straighten things out. He refuses to stop asking to leave because he fails to understand that he signed a contract that says no matter how bad Sixjax sticks things up his butt and lies to him, he can't do anything about it. Artosis: juan listen to evoli he's right. man i'm tired, i've gotta go cast. have fun you two. MajOr: but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan they're so dumbbbbbbbbb and they say they'll send me to koreaaaaaaaaaaaa but they dooooooooooooooooont and they lieeeeeeeeeeeeeee fuk man i want out of this team man pls mang? Artosis has left the discussion.Evoli: Juan just try to calm down and listen to Artosis, everything's going to be OK. MajOr: maaaaaaaaaaaaan fuk man wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff OK. Sorry. Officially Documented Sixjax Team Captain Artosis had an Officially Documented Meeting with Documented Sixjax Player MajOr and it's all Officially Documented. You're right. Plus they made that post on a fucking blog on a fucking REAL COMPANY WEBSITE. That's obviously legit, just like their business model.
As opposed to you just randomly stating things to stir up drama in multiple threads on more than one site that has nothing to do with you personally?
All my post was designed to state was that your saying artosis isnt a captain, that he had nothing to do with it and they (the evil corporation) disagree.
Didn't mean to hit a nerve there in your tirade to make sixjax look bad and major look good. I was just quoting some sources.
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On September 05 2011 16:54 Noktix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 16:40 Blaec wrote:On September 05 2011 16:19 Noktix wrote:On September 05 2011 16:02 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 15:12 Synwave wrote:On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 14:19 radianthere.shadow92 wrote:im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said. It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd. "Juan resented the position of the team management, and insisted that he would find a way out of his obligations. He began mentioning to his teammates that he felt threatened. It wasn't until our team captain, Artosis, spoke to him that he gave up his position. This is all documented." from here Sounds like he had a bit more involvement than you would like to give credit for. Let's roleplay this shit out on Skype: Evoli invites Artosis to the discussion.Evoli: Artosis, can you please talk with MajOr and straighten things out. He refuses to stop asking to leave because he fails to understand that he signed a contract that says no matter how bad Sixjax sticks things up his butt and lies to him, he can't do anything about it. Artosis: juan listen to evoli he's right. man i'm tired, i've gotta go cast. have fun you two. MajOr: but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan they're so dumbbbbbbbbb and they say they'll send me to koreaaaaaaaaaaaa but they dooooooooooooooooont and they lieeeeeeeeeeeeeee fuk man i want out of this team man pls mang? Artosis has left the discussion.Evoli: Juan just try to calm down and listen to Artosis, everything's going to be OK. MajOr: maaaaaaaaaaaaan fuk man wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff OK. Sorry. Officially Documented Sixjax Team Captain Artosis had an Officially Documented Meeting with Documented Sixjax Player MajOr and it's all Officially Documented. You're right. Plus they made that post on a fucking blog on a fucking REAL COMPANY WEBSITE. That's obviously legit, just like their business model. Skew keeping it professional and mature, clearly. I didn't really have an opinion of Skew but this is just pathetic. This has nothing to do with you and you're stiring up drama for no reason. It's pretty sad. This thread has become a debate of whether Major/Terran or Sixjax is the bad guy here. Skew who has relevant experience comes to share his opinion, and you say this has nothing to do with him? wtf? Relevant experience? What has he said other than random shit talking on Sixjax? No real evidence, just attacking the team when it isn't needed. Adding more drama to the situation. If Skew had a problem with Sixjax this is far from the way to handle that.
What kind of evidence is he supposed to produce?
Skew seems to think that Sixjax is a badly run team, there is enough publicly available knowledge to give this credence:
- Their business model is shady to say the least
- No show at the last MLG, no explanation
- 2 players leave in the last few days
- Artosis's silence on these players leaving
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When Phoenix was removed from Reign, the letter saying why he was let go... the team was saying how Phoenix was making a lot of "demands" and trying to make Phoenix look bad.
While I'm not saying Major's a good guy, but to not send Major to Korea for some BM to his teammate? That's odd.
I still think the Fenix/TT1/Fnatic drama should be more looked into.
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i used to think it was a refreshing change to be able to see what goes on inside pro teams, which is the total opposite of what you get with regular sports.
But seeing the result, 55 pages of overhyped drama, I think it is better that teams not air their dirty laundry out in public, it does not achieve anything.
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On September 05 2011 17:05 Blaec wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 16:54 Noktix wrote:On September 05 2011 16:40 Blaec wrote:On September 05 2011 16:19 Noktix wrote:On September 05 2011 16:02 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 15:12 Synwave wrote:On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 14:19 radianthere.shadow92 wrote:im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said. It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd. "Juan resented the position of the team management, and insisted that he would find a way out of his obligations. He began mentioning to his teammates that he felt threatened. It wasn't until our team captain, Artosis, spoke to him that he gave up his position. This is all documented." from here Sounds like he had a bit more involvement than you would like to give credit for. Let's roleplay this shit out on Skype: Evoli invites Artosis to the discussion.Evoli: Artosis, can you please talk with MajOr and straighten things out. He refuses to stop asking to leave because he fails to understand that he signed a contract that says no matter how bad Sixjax sticks things up his butt and lies to him, he can't do anything about it. Artosis: juan listen to evoli he's right. man i'm tired, i've gotta go cast. have fun you two. MajOr: but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan they're so dumbbbbbbbbb and they say they'll send me to koreaaaaaaaaaaaa but they dooooooooooooooooont and they lieeeeeeeeeeeeeee fuk man i want out of this team man pls mang? Artosis has left the discussion.Evoli: Juan just try to calm down and listen to Artosis, everything's going to be OK. MajOr: maaaaaaaaaaaaan fuk man wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff OK. Sorry. Officially Documented Sixjax Team Captain Artosis had an Officially Documented Meeting with Documented Sixjax Player MajOr and it's all Officially Documented. You're right. Plus they made that post on a fucking blog on a fucking REAL COMPANY WEBSITE. That's obviously legit, just like their business model. Skew keeping it professional and mature, clearly. I didn't really have an opinion of Skew but this is just pathetic. This has nothing to do with you and you're stiring up drama for no reason. It's pretty sad. This thread has become a debate of whether Major/Terran or Sixjax is the bad guy here. Skew who has relevant experience comes to share his opinion, and you say this has nothing to do with him? wtf? Relevant experience? What has he said other than random shit talking on Sixjax? No real evidence, just attacking the team when it isn't needed. Adding more drama to the situation. If Skew had a problem with Sixjax this is far from the way to handle that. What kind of evidence is he supposed to produce? Skew seems to think that Sixjax is a badly run team, there is enough publicly available knowledge to give this credence: - Their business model is shady to say the least - No show at the last MLG, no explanation - 2 players leave in the last few days - Artosis's silence on these players leaving
Do you honestly think that Skew handled this in a professional and reasonable matter?
He left the team quite a while ago, why did he not bring up his concerns then? He is piggybacking off of the Major drama and just screwing with people.
A reenactment of the skype call? Seriously?
Regardless of who is correct in this matter - regardless of whether Sixjax is poorly run - Skew is being immature, and acting pretty pathetic in my opinion. That's my point.
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On September 05 2011 17:13 Noktix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 17:05 Blaec wrote:On September 05 2011 16:54 Noktix wrote:On September 05 2011 16:40 Blaec wrote:On September 05 2011 16:19 Noktix wrote:On September 05 2011 16:02 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 15:12 Synwave wrote:On September 05 2011 14:55 Skew wrote:On September 05 2011 14:19 radianthere.shadow92 wrote:im just going to wait till artosis gives a statement. This is all just one giant he said she said. It's hard to give a statement when you have literally no involvement other than recruiting two players and making a twitter video. Trust me, if Artosis was actually team captain of Sixjax everybody would be a happy nerd. "Juan resented the position of the team management, and insisted that he would find a way out of his obligations. He began mentioning to his teammates that he felt threatened. It wasn't until our team captain, Artosis, spoke to him that he gave up his position. This is all documented." from here Sounds like he had a bit more involvement than you would like to give credit for. Let's roleplay this shit out on Skype: Evoli invites Artosis to the discussion.Evoli: Artosis, can you please talk with MajOr and straighten things out. He refuses to stop asking to leave because he fails to understand that he signed a contract that says no matter how bad Sixjax sticks things up his butt and lies to him, he can't do anything about it. Artosis: juan listen to evoli he's right. man i'm tired, i've gotta go cast. have fun you two. MajOr: but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan they're so dumbbbbbbbbb and they say they'll send me to koreaaaaaaaaaaaa but they dooooooooooooooooont and they lieeeeeeeeeeeeeee fuk man i want out of this team man pls mang? Artosis has left the discussion.Evoli: Juan just try to calm down and listen to Artosis, everything's going to be OK. MajOr: maaaaaaaaaaaaan fuk man wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff OK. Sorry. Officially Documented Sixjax Team Captain Artosis had an Officially Documented Meeting with Documented Sixjax Player MajOr and it's all Officially Documented. You're right. Plus they made that post on a fucking blog on a fucking REAL COMPANY WEBSITE. That's obviously legit, just like their business model. Skew keeping it professional and mature, clearly. I didn't really have an opinion of Skew but this is just pathetic. This has nothing to do with you and you're stiring up drama for no reason. It's pretty sad. This thread has become a debate of whether Major/Terran or Sixjax is the bad guy here. Skew who has relevant experience comes to share his opinion, and you say this has nothing to do with him? wtf? Relevant experience? What has he said other than random shit talking on Sixjax? No real evidence, just attacking the team when it isn't needed. Adding more drama to the situation. If Skew had a problem with Sixjax this is far from the way to handle that. What kind of evidence is he supposed to produce? Skew seems to think that Sixjax is a badly run team, there is enough publicly available knowledge to give this credence: - Their business model is shady to say the least - No show at the last MLG, no explanation - 2 players leave in the last few days - Artosis's silence on these players leaving Do you honestly think that Skew handled this in a professional and reasonable matter? He left the team quite a while ago, why did he not bring up his concerns then? He is piggybacking off of the Major drama and just screwing with people. A reenactment of the skype call? Seriously? Regardless of who is correct in this matter - regardless of whether Sixjax is poorly run - Skew is being immature, and acting pretty pathetic in my opinion. That's my point.
Fair enough. Im fine with how Skew is acting
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Poor artosis, can't catch a break when recommending players.
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juan, i wish the best of luck to you. if you want to make it to korea, then do it! do whatever it takes if thats your goal and your dream. no matter what i will always be supporting you because i KNOW youre a talented player with amazing mechanics.
juan, i remember in an interview way long ago that you thought you had no fans. no matter what, ill definitely be a fan of yours because you are GOOD. starcraft is a computer game, not a dating show.
best of luck juan, i hope you will be able to reach your goals
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From my experience, Major is like the Yankees.
If you're a fan, you love him.
If you're a fan of anyone else, even if you don't like baseball, you hate him.
But he's damn good at the game.
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If I were major I may have stayed in good standing with sixjax just for his reputation. If he had left them on good terms he probably could have gotten on any team he wanted.
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On September 05 2011 17:30 Velocirapture wrote:
If I were major I may have stayed in good standing with sixjax just for his reputation. If he had left them on good terms he probably could have gotten on any team he wanted.
QFT. The SEA tournament incident and that MLG incident where a non-topic, until his splitting with SJG in bad terms lead to this shitstorm. Without it, major could have gotten on any team he wanted and Sixjaxs would've kept the image of a neatless team. Now, regardless who is right or wrong, both party loses... :-/
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Personally, I have to say, I'm deeply disappointed and saddened by the conduct and attitude of some (many?) community members...
It really seems like once you've managed to show that you have skill, people will be extremely forgiving. We've already known that IdrA can get away with everything, because nobody cares how insulting his behaviour is, as long as he plays well. But until know I didn't realize that this principle does seem to apply to everybody who is somewhat good at the game. Even if we disregard Major's BW-history and recent ROOT-history, he cheated himself into the SEA-tournament and was apparently pretty bad mannered at MLG. And still, in the eyes of many people around here, somehow SixJax ended up being the one to blame.
To speak with Kyle of southpark: I've learned something today
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lol, IdrA getting away with bm? Yeah, he is known to bm online and offline, but he still gets shit for it. Just look at his fanclub with many anti-IdrA fans posting in the thread whenever IdrA bm's or "rages".
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On September 05 2011 17:30 two.watup wrote:
From my experience, Major is like the Yankees.
If you're a fan, you love him.
If you're a fan of anyone else, even if you don't like baseball, you hate him.
But he's damn good at the game.
So he's IdrA?
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