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BluesmokE
Profile Joined September 2011
United States14 Posts
September 05 2011 09:06 GMT
#1081
So this is how sixjax treats their best player? Wow.
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
September 05 2011 09:14 GMT
#1082
On September 05 2011 17:30 two.watup wrote:
From my experience, Major is like the Yankees.

If you're a fan, you love him.

If you're a fan of anyone else, even if you don't like baseball, you hate him.

But he's damn good at the game.
Pretty much. Not just that, the guy improves so rapidly. God help the other foreigners if he trains in korea. He's gonna be a code S terran some day.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
September 05 2011 09:23 GMT
#1083
On September 05 2011 16:29 lizzuma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 15:52 turdburgler wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:50 khazgore wrote:
Did he start a scene with WBC? i only remembering major left the first game he lost without a gg, then next game wbc wins and ggs out, last game WBC wins again and comes with an offensive early gg when hes ahead, then major writes good job idiot... was that all? or did something happen outside of the game aswell? i need to hear it!


from reading most of the thread this seems to be the greatest thing that never happen -_-
noone seems to be aware anything ever happened.

does anyone have any idea in which game major supposedly swore at dde? since they just say "online" and i never heard anything about it at all.


alright guys, ill do the favor and clear the air on this for you. I was with complexity at the time watching the last games of the day including Catz (i had been knocked out by inka winners round 2). I was watching wbc vs major game 3. WBC did say "gg?" in game 3 when victory was apparant. major typed out "good job, idiot," then gg'ed out shortly after. WBC went to shake his hand after game and major replied "fuck off." I was watching from about where the refs sit inside the player area so it was pretty audible. choose to believe me or not, thats what happened.

WBC fault then, offensive gg is pretty damn annoying.

But after sixjax statement, I really dont get how Juan is this immature lol.
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 05 2011 09:26 GMT
#1084
On September 05 2011 18:14 Nexic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 17:30 two.watup wrote:
From my experience, Major is like the Yankees.

If you're a fan, you love him.

If you're a fan of anyone else, even if you don't like baseball, you hate him.

But he's damn good at the game.
Pretty much. Not just that, the guy improves so rapidly. God help the other foreigners if he trains in korea. He's gonna be a code S terran some day.

If he cleans up his act, maybe.

I don't see him being a legit contender if he keeps this up though, no team will want him.
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
September 05 2011 09:36 GMT
#1085
OT: Was that a sponsored headset IdrA smashed vs TriMaster? IF so...

TriMaster rockin' a huge SoundBlaster logo while IdrA is smashing "his brand" headset in the background. Looks easily much worse than anything Juan has ever done.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 05 2011 09:49 GMT
#1086
On September 05 2011 18:23 Moralez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 16:29 lizzuma wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:52 turdburgler wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:50 khazgore wrote:
Did he start a scene with WBC? i only remembering major left the first game he lost without a gg, then next game wbc wins and ggs out, last game WBC wins again and comes with an offensive early gg when hes ahead, then major writes good job idiot... was that all? or did something happen outside of the game aswell? i need to hear it!


from reading most of the thread this seems to be the greatest thing that never happen -_-
noone seems to be aware anything ever happened.

does anyone have any idea in which game major supposedly swore at dde? since they just say "online" and i never heard anything about it at all.


alright guys, ill do the favor and clear the air on this for you. I was with complexity at the time watching the last games of the day including Catz (i had been knocked out by inka winners round 2). I was watching wbc vs major game 3. WBC did say "gg?" in game 3 when victory was apparant. major typed out "good job, idiot," then gg'ed out shortly after. WBC went to shake his hand after game and major replied "fuck off." I was watching from about where the refs sit inside the player area so it was pretty audible. choose to believe me or not, thats what happened.

WBC fault then, offensive gg is pretty damn annoying.

But after sixjax statement, I really dont get how Juan is this immature lol.

Sure offensive gg is bm, but it doesn't make what Juan did ok. There is a reason Juan got the technical foul and not WBC.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2011 09:55 GMT
#1087
On September 05 2011 17:37 sleepingdog wrote:
Personally, I have to say, I'm deeply disappointed and saddened by the conduct and attitude of some (many?) community members...

It really seems like once you've managed to show that you have skill, people will be extremely forgiving. We've already known that IdrA can get away with everything, because nobody cares how insulting his behaviour is, as long as he plays well. But until know I didn't realize that this principle does seem to apply to everybody who is somewhat good at the game. Even if we disregard Major's BW-history and recent ROOT-history, he cheated himself into the SEA-tournament and was apparently pretty bad mannered at MLG. And still, in the eyes of many people around here, somehow SixJax ended up being the one to blame.

To speak with Kyle of southpark: I've learned something today


You don't understand the scenario here.

Let's review what sixjax did here.
1. Sixjax gave a very brief statement accusing majOr of 'Breaching of contract with blah blah blah', with no sufficient evidence.
2. Sixjax had the cheek to create a forum topic on thier forum site about 'complains about juan (majOr)'.
3. Sixjax then made a blog post about this incident. It was all to defame majOr further with little to no evidence. Also, their proclaimed 'evidence' were full of crap, such as 'breach of contract as majOr did not wear his team jersey to MLG' etc.

Now, let's review what other notable players said.
1. Skew called the sixjax business model a 'scam'.
2. MajOr gave valid points as to why he resigned, instead of leaving by breaching of contract.

With these points, I'm hoping you get the idea of why everyone thinks Sixjax is to blame here. The whole SEA hooha was a joke. Will you kick out your flagship player because he smurfed in a tournament? Well, I am a SEA player too and I thought bad of majOr's action too. However, by calmly thinking about the situation, you will be hit by the hammer of truth.

This is what I gathered so far:

Sixjax is pretty much in the wrong right now, with little evidence to back its claims, wanting to kick out majOr without losing face (breaking promise anyone?).
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
September 05 2011 09:57 GMT
#1088
major should've put the claim about going to korea in his contract, something like if SJ won't manage to send him to Korea within 6 months he is a free agent
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 10:09:35
September 05 2011 10:09 GMT
#1089
-----------------
Wrong thread
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
September 05 2011 10:09 GMT
#1090
On September 05 2011 19:09 FinnGamer wrote:
-----------------
Wrong thread

I lolled
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Catabu
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany16 Posts
September 05 2011 10:11 GMT
#1091
I'm impressed time and again how soon somethings considered BM and a small scandal in SC2.

On topic: Sixjax has always seemed shady to me (even with artosis on it) and they didn't give any real reason what so ever. And all I've read about Major in this thread so far about his bad manners are:

1st: He cheated himself into the SEA tourney (which really is not ok)
2nd: said "fuck off" to wbc, who proved to be a huge dick ingame (so?)

People keep going on about his BW history and all the bad stuff he does, but those two things are the only ones I found so far.
You can now misunderstand this post and flame me.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 05 2011 10:13 GMT
#1092
On September 05 2011 18:55 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 17:37 sleepingdog wrote:
Personally, I have to say, I'm deeply disappointed and saddened by the conduct and attitude of some (many?) community members...

It really seems like once you've managed to show that you have skill, people will be extremely forgiving. We've already known that IdrA can get away with everything, because nobody cares how insulting his behaviour is, as long as he plays well. But until know I didn't realize that this principle does seem to apply to everybody who is somewhat good at the game. Even if we disregard Major's BW-history and recent ROOT-history, he cheated himself into the SEA-tournament and was apparently pretty bad mannered at MLG. And still, in the eyes of many people around here, somehow SixJax ended up being the one to blame.

To speak with Kyle of southpark: I've learned something today


You don't understand the scenario here.

Let's review what sixjax did here.
1. Sixjax gave a very brief statement accusing majOr of 'Breaching of contract with blah blah blah', with no sufficient evidence.
2. Sixjax had the cheek to create a forum topic on thier forum site about 'complains about juan (majOr)'.
3. Sixjax then made a blog post about this incident. It was all to defame majOr further with little to no evidence. Also, their proclaimed 'evidence' were full of crap, such as 'breach of contract as majOr did not wear his team jersey to MLG' etc.

Now, let's review what other notable players said.
1. Skew called the sixjax business model a 'scam'.
2. MajOr gave valid points as to why he resigned, instead of leaving by breaching of contract.

With these points, I'm hoping you get the idea of why everyone thinks Sixjax is to blame here. The whole SEA hooha was a joke. Will you kick out your flagship player because he smurfed in a tournament? Well, I am a SEA player too and I thought bad of majOr's action too. However, by calmly thinking about the situation, you will be hit by the hammer of truth.

This is what I gathered so far:

Sixjax is pretty much in the wrong right now, with little evidence to back its claims, wanting to kick out majOr without losing face (breaking promise anyone?).


Regarding 1.:
I do highly believe that both illegally trying to participate in a tournament dedicated to developing the australian scene by using a smurf account and appearing at an MLG without his team shirt are against his contract, even without solid proof by making his entire contract public.
And regarding the heavy insults he threw at wbc so that they had to call a referee to issue him an official warning, I believe that happened as well, otherwise the MLG staff would blame sixjax on spouting nonsense, and it's not hard to believe that such behaviour in public is against his contract.
Catabu
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany16 Posts
September 05 2011 10:19 GMT
#1093
On September 05 2011 19:13 JustPassingBy wrote:

And regarding the heavy insults he threw at wbc so that they had to call a referee to issue him an official warning, I believe that happened as well, otherwise the MLG staff would blame sixjax on spouting nonsense, and it's not hard to believe that such behaviour in public is against his contract.


Besides "Fuck off", what did he say?
You can now misunderstand this post and flame me.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 05 2011 10:20 GMT
#1094
On September 05 2011 18:55 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 17:37 sleepingdog wrote:
Personally, I have to say, I'm deeply disappointed and saddened by the conduct and attitude of some (many?) community members...

It really seems like once you've managed to show that you have skill, people will be extremely forgiving. We've already known that IdrA can get away with everything, because nobody cares how insulting his behaviour is, as long as he plays well. But until know I didn't realize that this principle does seem to apply to everybody who is somewhat good at the game. Even if we disregard Major's BW-history and recent ROOT-history, he cheated himself into the SEA-tournament and was apparently pretty bad mannered at MLG. And still, in the eyes of many people around here, somehow SixJax ended up being the one to blame.

To speak with Kyle of southpark: I've learned something today


You don't understand the scenario here.

Let's review what sixjax did here.
1. Sixjax gave a very brief statement accusing majOr of 'Breaching of contract with blah blah blah', with no sufficient evidence.
2. Sixjax had the cheek to create a forum topic on thier forum site about 'complains about juan (majOr)'.
3. Sixjax then made a blog post about this incident. It was all to defame majOr further with little to no evidence. Also, their proclaimed 'evidence' were full of crap, such as 'breach of contract as majOr did not wear his team jersey to MLG' etc.

Now, let's review what other notable players said.
1. Skew called the sixjax business model a 'scam'.
2. MajOr gave valid points as to why he resigned, instead of leaving by breaching of contract.

With these points, I'm hoping you get the idea of why everyone thinks Sixjax is to blame here. The whole SEA hooha was a joke. Will you kick out your flagship player because he smurfed in a tournament? Well, I am a SEA player too and I thought bad of majOr's action too. However, by calmly thinking about the situation, you will be hit by the hammer of truth.

This is what I gathered so far:

Sixjax is pretty much in the wrong right now, with little evidence to back its claims, wanting to kick out majOr without losing face (breaking promise anyone?).

Could your post seem any more bias?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#1095
On September 05 2011 18:49 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 18:23 Moralez wrote:
On September 05 2011 16:29 lizzuma wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:52 turdburgler wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:50 khazgore wrote:
Did he start a scene with WBC? i only remembering major left the first game he lost without a gg, then next game wbc wins and ggs out, last game WBC wins again and comes with an offensive early gg when hes ahead, then major writes good job idiot... was that all? or did something happen outside of the game aswell? i need to hear it!


from reading most of the thread this seems to be the greatest thing that never happen -_-
noone seems to be aware anything ever happened.

does anyone have any idea in which game major supposedly swore at dde? since they just say "online" and i never heard anything about it at all.


alright guys, ill do the favor and clear the air on this for you. I was with complexity at the time watching the last games of the day including Catz (i had been knocked out by inka winners round 2). I was watching wbc vs major game 3. WBC did say "gg?" in game 3 when victory was apparant. major typed out "good job, idiot," then gg'ed out shortly after. WBC went to shake his hand after game and major replied "fuck off." I was watching from about where the refs sit inside the player area so it was pretty audible. choose to believe me or not, thats what happened.

WBC fault then, offensive gg is pretty damn annoying.

But after sixjax statement, I really dont get how Juan is this immature lol.

Sure offensive gg is bm, but it doesn't make what Juan did ok. There is a reason Juan got the technical foul and not WBC.


Because MLG is too stupid to follow their own rules.

"#3 Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game".
"Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game. " [source]

An offensive "gg?" is already breaking those rules. Therefore wbc should've been DQed before the Maj0r comments happened.
Yes, that means "that's halo" is a reason to be DQed. Idra's "fuck off" (and Huk's "those are hallus") was a reason to be DQed.
MLG admins are biased / inept. (Yes the rule is stupid, but then they should just remove it not use it in only some cases).

jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 05 2011 10:34 GMT
#1096
On September 05 2011 19:29 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 18:49 jmbthirteen wrote:
On September 05 2011 18:23 Moralez wrote:
On September 05 2011 16:29 lizzuma wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:52 turdburgler wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:50 khazgore wrote:
Did he start a scene with WBC? i only remembering major left the first game he lost without a gg, then next game wbc wins and ggs out, last game WBC wins again and comes with an offensive early gg when hes ahead, then major writes good job idiot... was that all? or did something happen outside of the game aswell? i need to hear it!


from reading most of the thread this seems to be the greatest thing that never happen -_-
noone seems to be aware anything ever happened.

does anyone have any idea in which game major supposedly swore at dde? since they just say "online" and i never heard anything about it at all.


alright guys, ill do the favor and clear the air on this for you. I was with complexity at the time watching the last games of the day including Catz (i had been knocked out by inka winners round 2). I was watching wbc vs major game 3. WBC did say "gg?" in game 3 when victory was apparant. major typed out "good job, idiot," then gg'ed out shortly after. WBC went to shake his hand after game and major replied "fuck off." I was watching from about where the refs sit inside the player area so it was pretty audible. choose to believe me or not, thats what happened.

WBC fault then, offensive gg is pretty damn annoying.

But after sixjax statement, I really dont get how Juan is this immature lol.

Sure offensive gg is bm, but it doesn't make what Juan did ok. There is a reason Juan got the technical foul and not WBC.


Because MLG is too stupid to follow their own rules.

"#3 Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game".
"Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game. " [source]

An offensive "gg?" is already breaking those rules. Therefore wbc should've been DQed before the Maj0r comments happened.
Yes, that means "that's halo" is a reason to be DQed. Idra's "fuck off" (and Huk's "those are hallus") was a reason to be DQed.
MLG admins are biased / inept. (Yes the rule is stupid, but then they should just remove it not use it in only some cases).


and even if WBC should have been DQed, it doesn't change what Juan did. We aren't talking about IFs here. We are talking about what happened. Major is at MLG, repping his team, supposed to be a professional, yet he didn't act like it. And this is not an isolated incident for Major, this is just one more thing to add to the list.

And MLG is bias toward WBC over Major? Doubt it. Hell if Major said fuck off in game, i doubt any infraction would be handed out.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Josri
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands219 Posts
September 05 2011 10:37 GMT
#1097
Wait, sixjax is still alive?
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
September 05 2011 10:38 GMT
#1098
Interesting. I saw this coming
However, Major's statement...now I don't know who to believe
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
September 05 2011 10:51 GMT
#1099
On September 05 2011 18:55 HaruRH wrote:

2. MajOr gave valid points as to why he resigned, instead of leaving by breaching of contract.




Attempting to find another teams to play on while being under contract is a breach of contract, among other things.



butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 10:53:05
September 05 2011 10:52 GMT
#1100
sixjax seems to have very strict rules. Not sending someone to Korea and then even disbanding him from the team because he BM'd two guys (WBC, DDE) and not wearing some jersey..? I guess IdrA can be really happy he is in EG. x)
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