On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote: This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team? It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in. I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think. I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.
Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.
Fenix is doing well in the team league.
QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.
QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP. And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this. If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.
Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)
What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:
1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.
2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true
The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.
The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote: This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team? It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in. I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think. I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.
Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.
He doesn't really have to bring anything at this moment. The coach saw potential so he signed him, also the other reason is the "foreign expansion" of IM. Hating so much is not cool.
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote: This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team? It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in. I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think. I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.
Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.
Fenix is doing well in the team league.
QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.
QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP. And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this. If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.
Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)
What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:
1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.
2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true
The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.
The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road
You forgot a huge part of it too - it's a low-risk strategy for IM. My guess is Fenix hardly gets a salary (maybe just a stipend, or maybe just food/housing) so it doesn't cost a lot to sign him, but there are potentials for huge gains.
On September 02 2011 12:23 MogSkynet wrote: "A verbal agreement is worth as much as the paper it is written on."
Congrats to Fenix for joining IM, I'm sure we will see much improvement from him in the near future.
It is true moggy that a verbal agreement can be worthless (although it is still legally binding). Regardless of peoples views on "prize splitting" fenix is still at fault for that as he sure as hell would of collected if TT1 had won it. I dont see how people can still respect Fenix, even going so far as to cheer him on, knowing he broke his word to a friend and essentially chose $1000, or whatever it was, over his friendship his team and his respect.
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote: This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team? It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in. I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think. I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.
Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.
Not to say that Fenix is bad, but If IM wants to expand outside of Korea and wants to kick it off by recruiting somebody from outside of Korea, Fenix is the best choice, there is no doubt about that.
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote: This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team? It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in. I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think. I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.
Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.
Fenix is doing well in the team league.
QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.
QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP. And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this. If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.
Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)
What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:
1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.
2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true
The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.
The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road
I disagree. Granted some teams want to 'raise there own players' but most teams want players who can do what they need to do, and that is win.
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote: This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team? It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in. I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think. I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.
Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.
Fenix is doing well in the team league.
QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.
QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP. And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this. If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.
Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)
What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:
1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.
2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true
The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.
The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road
5/5 For comparing Fenix to a lvl 2 pidgey, will read again.
Hopefully Fenix will show his inner beast and become like another IdrA or HuK.
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote: This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team? It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in. I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think. I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.
Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.
Fenix is doing well in the team league.
QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.
QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP. And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this. If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.
Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)
What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:
1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.
2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true
The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.
The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road
5/5 For comparing Fenix to a lvl 2 pidgey, will read again.
Hopefully Fenix will show his inner beast and become like another IdrA or HuK.
Well, it's only three levels or so until he learns wing attack, not the worst comparison
FryktSkyene: Good point, I probably should of said "in this case" in stead of normally, you get the point
EPT
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