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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 02 2011 07:53 GMT
#941
On September 02 2011 16:36 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 16:31 FryktSkyene wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote:
This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team?
It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in.
I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think.
I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.

Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.


Fenix is doing well in the team league.

QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.


QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP.
And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this.
If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.

Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)


What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:

1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.

2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true

The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.

The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road
memes are a dish best served dank
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
September 02 2011 08:07 GMT
#942
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote:
This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team?
It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in.
I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think.
I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.

Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.

He doesn't really have to bring anything at this moment. The coach saw potential so he signed him, also the other reason is the "foreign expansion" of IM. Hating so much is not cool.
RiT4LiN
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands131 Posts
September 02 2011 08:23 GMT
#943

We will operate a foreign expeditionary squad consisting of NesTea-Mvp-LosirA-Fenix."


Oh thats just fenix with 3 of the very best players in the world
A quote
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
September 02 2011 08:28 GMT
#944
On September 02 2011 17:23 RiT4LiN wrote:
Show nested quote +

We will operate a foreign expeditionary squad consisting of NesTea-Mvp-LosirA-Fenix."


Oh thats just fenix with 3 of the very best players in the world


I hope it means they'll actually travel more than what they are currently doing
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
September 02 2011 08:28 GMT
#945
On September 02 2011 16:53 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 16:36 MaestroSC wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:31 FryktSkyene wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote:
This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team?
It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in.
I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think.
I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.

Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.


Fenix is doing well in the team league.

QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.


QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP.
And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this.
If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.

Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)


What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:

1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.

2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true

The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.

The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road


You forgot a huge part of it too - it's a low-risk strategy for IM. My guess is Fenix hardly gets a salary (maybe just a stipend, or maybe just food/housing) so it doesn't cost a lot to sign him, but there are potentials for huge gains.
WAAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
New Zealand291 Posts
September 02 2011 08:34 GMT
#946
On September 02 2011 12:23 MogSkynet wrote:
"A verbal agreement is worth as much as the paper it is written on."

Congrats to Fenix for joining IM, I'm sure we will see much improvement from him in the near future.


It is true moggy that a verbal agreement can be worthless (although it is still legally binding). Regardless of peoples views on "prize splitting" fenix is still at fault for that as he sure as hell would of collected if TT1 had won it. I dont see how people can still respect Fenix, even going so far as to cheer him on, knowing he broke his word to a friend and essentially chose $1000, or whatever it was, over his friendship his team and his respect.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
September 02 2011 08:35 GMT
#947
GRATZ JIAN CARLO, keep it up. So incredibly amazing ur TvT and ur victory over MC last nite. SO EXCITING!!! GL IM & GL FENIX.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
September 02 2011 08:38 GMT
#948
Cool news for Fenix, gl to him in Korea.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
September 02 2011 08:44 GMT
#949
congrats hopefully he will improve a lot playing IMMvp <-----omg insane (:
*rawr* d(^_^d)
weeA
Profile Joined October 2010
India442 Posts
September 02 2011 09:00 GMT
#950
IMFenix Fighting

KEep the foreign hope ALIVE
Lim Yo Hwan I love U
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 02 2011 09:04 GMT
#951
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote:
This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team?
It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in.
I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think.
I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.

Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.


Not to say that Fenix is bad, but If IM wants to expand outside of Korea and wants to kick it off by recruiting somebody from outside of Korea, Fenix is the best choice, there is no doubt about that.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
September 02 2011 09:08 GMT
#952
On September 02 2011 16:53 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 16:36 MaestroSC wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:31 FryktSkyene wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote:
This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team?
It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in.
I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think.
I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.

Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.


Fenix is doing well in the team league.

QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.


QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP.
And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this.
If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.

Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)


What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:

1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.

2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true

The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.

The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road



I disagree. Granted some teams want to 'raise there own players' but most teams want players who can do what they need to do, and that is win.


Snitches get stiches
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
September 02 2011 09:14 GMT
#953
On September 02 2011 16:53 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 16:36 MaestroSC wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:31 FryktSkyene wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote:
This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team?
It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in.
I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think.
I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.

Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.


Fenix is doing well in the team league.

QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.


QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP.
And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this.
If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.

Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)


What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:

1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.

2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true

The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.

The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road



5/5 For comparing Fenix to a lvl 2 pidgey, will read again.

Hopefully Fenix will show his inner beast and become like another IdrA or HuK.
Logic is Overrated
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
September 02 2011 09:35 GMT
#954
I always liked Fenix's playstyle ever since watching him play in Brood War. I'm really glad IM added him to their team.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 02 2011 09:40 GMT
#955
On September 02 2011 18:14 Newbistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 16:53 marttorn wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:36 MaestroSC wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:31 FryktSkyene wrote:
On September 02 2011 16:06 MaestroSC wrote:
This makes no sense to me. What does Fenix really bring to the team?
It's not like he is ever top 5 at MLG or any other major competition I have ever seen him in.
I dont know, maybe I am really ignorant and he is a lot better then I think.
I just don't see him in any way,shape, or form, a player who fits in talent/play wise with the IM team. I know they want foreign fans and foreign support, but why Fenix is my biggest question.

Congrats to him though. He is still a pretty good foreign pro.


Fenix is doing well in the team league.

QXC all killed IM's weaker players (and MVP) and i'd say fenix is on the same level as qxc.


QXC all-killed IM's weaker players and MVP.
And YOU would say Fenix is on the same level, but there is no evidence to support this.
If we can get Fenix to vs all of the same people, and win. Then I will agree with you. But there is nothing to support the claim that Fenix is on the same level of QXC until he accomplishes something similar.

Now if IM recruited QXC i would somewhat understand. But saying "Hey this foreigner beat a bunch of our players... we should recruit a random foreigner!" doesnt make much sense to me. (not to insinuate that Fenix is just any random foreigner, he is a talented pro foreign player still)


What results a player has is irrelevant in this case. IM is not EG. IM decided to recruit Fenix for a few reasons:

1. Basically really good PR. Ties some bonds between Korea and the rest of the world.

2. They saw potential in Fenix, and considering he's become so much better with just a couple days in korea this is true

The most important point is just that, normally you don't really recruit players based off of results, you try to train someone.

The difference between catching a pidgey at lvl 2 and using exp share, and snatching a pidgeot lvl 47 from victory road



5/5 For comparing Fenix to a lvl 2 pidgey, will read again.

Hopefully Fenix will show his inner beast and become like another IdrA or HuK.


Well, it's only three levels or so until he learns wing attack, not the worst comparison

FryktSkyene: Good point, I probably should of said "in this case" in stead of normally, you get the point
memes are a dish best served dank
GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
September 02 2011 09:47 GMT
#956
Epic winning! Well played fenix! Foreigners fighting!
How many bears could bear grylls grill if bear grylls coud grill bears?
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
September 02 2011 09:53 GMT
#957
lol @ the whiners saying Fenix doesn't bring anything to the team.

The difference between the korean scene is that they actually recruit talented players and make them better, they don't just sign the best players.

They aren't EG ^^
Scrumdidlyumptious
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia235 Posts
September 02 2011 10:07 GMT
#958
IMFenix saves Prime team from elimination!

Prime team celebrates
gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
September 02 2011 10:12 GMT
#959
On September 02 2011 00:10 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 00:00 julianto wrote:
On September 01 2011 23:49 Dfgj wrote:
We will operate a foreign expeditionary squad consisting of NesTea-Mvp-LosirA-Fenix.

Welp, that's that guys. Go home, game over.

O GOD THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF STARCRAFT WILL PURGE THE FOREIGN SCENE IN 2012.


[image loading]

IM getting off at the airport





Great move by fenix though to have the opportunity to train with IM.


srsly hilarious
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
September 02 2011 10:15 GMT
#960
Damn, congratulations Fenix! Best of luck.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
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