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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 01 2011 22:09 GMT
#761
On September 02 2011 06:53 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 06:47 AdreN- wrote:
On September 02 2011 05:06 TT1 wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:58 darkest44 wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:53 TT1 wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:47 ssg wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:39 TT1 wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:30 Full.tilt wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:
On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:
[quote]

Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true.


im being greedy? pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me


oh well at least he didn't cheat.


yea because someone who cheated when he was 16 y.os in a game

You mean 20?


no when i got caught in tsl1 the replays that they referred to were dated, u should read the post

i find it funny how i still have to defend myself for something that has nothing to do with you people and this situation =] if fenix were to have commited murder would u have posted.. o well at least he didnt cheat like tt1 did in sc1? LOL


Yea and Fenix having success and joining IM has nothing to do with your personal grudge against him. Its funny how you don't see what a huge hypocrite you constantly are. You basically admit to match fixing by agreeing to split money then throwing the finals with lol 1 base carriers, then whine that he didn't go through with it. It's a douchebag move by BOTH of you.

Sc2 is a spectator sport, you wouldn't get any money if no one was watching and fans dont want to see any sort of match fixing or playing half-assed/throwing finals because of monetary agreements that kills the whole spirit of the competition.

You both made a douchebag move but you're the bigger douche for taking your personal grudge to a public forum and trying to ruin a happy announcement for the guy with a grudge that has nothing to do with him being on IM.


do you know what match fixing is? its when 2 players plan out who wins in order to have people who are betting on a match profit from it, if u ever attempt to tarnish my name in that way again i swear to god please present yourself to a lan and it will fucking go down

Threatening people isn't a mature thing either man, just ignore the trolls, move on, and learn from this mistake. At least be happy you got a free $5000 because GameGune was a joke competition-wise and for more money than MLG. You and Fenix should never have agreed on this to begin with because it makes for a boring finals when there is no money on the line (if both players have already agreed to split). Is that match fixing? Of course not. Does it devalue the finals by having "no" money on the line? Certainly.

Congrats to Fenix on joining IM.


good post, your right about everything
in any case i want to make everyone happy so i wont be posting on tl anymore, dont wanna be considered part of this community anymore


OK bye. TL doesn't need a maphacker and match fixer (Backroom deals that effect in game play is fixing as it denies the spectators a legitimate match) in it's community anyway.

On top of that, way to contribute to stealing Fenix's time to shine. Which is that he has been getting really good and was adopted by probably the best Korean team out there at the moment.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 01 2011 22:09 GMT
#762
oh, wow, nestea, losira, mvp, and fenix.
that's a good lineup for any event
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MoriyaGXP
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)240 Posts
September 01 2011 22:11 GMT
#763
hmm IM doesn't have any good protoss .....................
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RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
September 01 2011 22:12 GMT
#764
TT1 so classy :D, IM sensing some jealousy going on here. <--- see what i did thar, hehe
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 01 2011 22:13 GMT
#765
On September 02 2011 07:04 Zuxo wrote:
USA USA USA!

United Starcraft Association
catburst
Profile Joined February 2011
United States57 Posts
September 01 2011 22:13 GMT
#766
Yes yes yes gooo fenix!!!! :D
protoss <3
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
September 01 2011 22:13 GMT
#767
On September 02 2011 07:11 MoriyaGXP wrote:
hmm IM doesn't have any good protoss .....................


Yeah, YongHwa and Seed are terrible.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................not sure if troll?.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
September 01 2011 22:15 GMT
#768
Love how people jump to conclusions without actually hearing both sides of the story.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
September 01 2011 22:16 GMT
#769
On September 02 2011 07:13 RedDragon571 wrote:
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On September 02 2011 07:11 MoriyaGXP wrote:
hmm IM doesn't have any good protoss .....................


Yeah, YongHwa and Seed are terrible.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................not sure if troll?.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................


Pretty sure he meant that IM doesn't have any dominating protoss players like how MVP and Nestea are dominating.
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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 22:21:52
September 01 2011 22:19 GMT
#770
Also, for those claiming that IM is the best Korean team... They do have two of the most dominant players in the scene right now, but I'm not sure if that's enough to be considered one of the strongest teams. There's a distinct lack of depth behind the MVP, Nestea, Losira trifecta and a serious lack of top Protoss on IM.


edit: Yonghwa is 2-2 this GSTL season (which is ok for a sniper - you kill your target then get eliminated) and Seed hasn't even played at all.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 01 2011 22:21 GMT
#771
On September 02 2011 07:19 Bobster wrote:
Also, for those claiming that IM is the best Korean team... They do have two of the most dominant players in the scene right now, but I'm not sure if that's enough to be considered one of the strongest teams. There's a distinct lack of depth behind the MVP, Nestea, Losira trifecta and a serious lack of top Protoss on IM.


Theres a distinctive lack of top Protoss in GSL period. That being said, people are calling them a top team to denote the fact they obviously produce great players. Not really there ability to dominate the team league.
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RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
September 01 2011 22:23 GMT
#772
On September 02 2011 07:16 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 07:13 RedDragon571 wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:11 MoriyaGXP wrote:
hmm IM doesn't have any good protoss .....................


Yeah, YongHwa and Seed are terrible.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................not sure if troll?.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................


Pretty sure he meant that IM doesn't have any dominating protoss players like how MVP and Nestea are dominating.


It just seems silly because its going to be a mathematical fact all protoss can't dominate at the same time, does that mean that good protoss don't exist?
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 01 2011 22:23 GMT
#773
On September 02 2011 07:21 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 07:19 Bobster wrote:
Also, for those claiming that IM is the best Korean team... They do have two of the most dominant players in the scene right now, but I'm not sure if that's enough to be considered one of the strongest teams. There's a distinct lack of depth behind the MVP, Nestea, Losira trifecta and a serious lack of top Protoss on IM.


Theres a distinctive lack of top Protoss in GSL period. That being said, people are calling them a top team to denote the fact they obviously produce great players. Not really there ability to dominate the team league.
I definitely agree that they're a great team, I just object to people calling them the best in Korea.
Zuxo
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden395 Posts
September 01 2011 22:23 GMT
#774
On September 02 2011 07:13 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 07:04 Zuxo wrote:
USA USA USA!

United Starcraft Association


Haha I saw it from your previous post that was why i wrote it ;D.
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fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
September 01 2011 22:26 GMT
#775
Lol@trying to "burn" Fenix for his reluctance to take part in TT1's matchfix party.
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Nowis0n
Profile Joined June 2011
United States47 Posts
September 01 2011 22:27 GMT
#776
He's doing better than most think and has more potential then pretty much anyone knows.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
September 01 2011 22:30 GMT
#777
On September 02 2011 06:53 TT1 wrote:

good post, your right about everything
in any case i want to make everyone happy so i wont be posting on tl anymore, dont wanna be considered part of this community anymore


Thank God. TL was really benefiting from having such a childish passive-aggressive poster. Maybe you'll have a little more time to practice now.

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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 01 2011 22:32 GMT
#778
On September 02 2011 07:27 Nowis0n wrote:
He's doing better than most think and has more potential then pretty much anyone knows.

I agree people think he's not that awesome of a player because when he was in fnatic he didn't had a great visibility
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 01 2011 22:36 GMT
#779
Congrats Fenix.
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
September 01 2011 22:37 GMT
#780
On September 02 2011 07:23 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 07:21 Medrea wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:19 Bobster wrote:
Also, for those claiming that IM is the best Korean team... They do have two of the most dominant players in the scene right now, but I'm not sure if that's enough to be considered one of the strongest teams. There's a distinct lack of depth behind the MVP, Nestea, Losira trifecta and a serious lack of top Protoss on IM.


Theres a distinctive lack of top Protoss in GSL period. That being said, people are calling them a top team to denote the fact they obviously produce great players. Not really there ability to dominate the team league.
I definitely agree that they're a great team, I just object to people calling them the best in Korea.

They are the best in Korea, period. GSTL as a league will never produce the most skilled games as long as the pricepool is so poor ($ 27,600 for winning team) compared to Monthly GSL. Top players do not want to easily "share" their knowledge as long as their are in the run for the jackpot in GSL. Thats why you rarely/never see Nestea in GSTL. If the winner price was something in the 6 digit range, you would quickly see what IM is actually capable of. The current GSTL is nowhere near an accurate measurement for teams in Korea.
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