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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
September 02 2011 12:01 GMT
#1941
On September 02 2011 20:46 darlhet wrote:
i have a problem i go at the start, where you need to pick 4 out of 15 players, but i cant find a playerlist anywhere?

It should be the first thing you see after activating your account...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 02 2011 12:19 GMT
#1942
Just created my team, just sorta wished there were more tourney available .... But looks like there's a lot of promise from this!!!
liftlift > tsm
thenanox
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 12:33:57
September 02 2011 12:30 GMT
#1943
hey, someone know something about some kind of cheating in this game?

for example:http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=54910

if you check his victories, all rivals doesnt have a build selected, the player is horrible but is top64 ELO, seems some king of cheat/bug for me:s
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
September 02 2011 12:40 GMT
#1944
On September 02 2011 21:30 thenanox wrote:
hey, someone know something about some kind of cheating in this game?

for example:http://sc2manager.org/viewplayer.php?id=54910

if you check his victories, all rivals doesnt have a build selected, the player is horrible but is top64 ELO, seems some king of cheat/bug for me:s

Been talked about in the bugs section of the forum on sc2manager.org
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 02 2011 12:48 GMT
#1945
How do I get to level 1? im 5000/2500 and have a elo avg of 2025 :S
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 12:53:06
September 02 2011 12:51 GMT
#1946
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 12:55:59
September 02 2011 12:55 GMT
#1947
On September 02 2011 21:51 KeksX wrote:
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.


Look at the games. It seems hes found a nice hole in peoples builds where he can attack with about 10-15 army pop where people/you have like 4/5 army pop.

Or its just a problem in your build :D. He probably modified the strat to attack then or something because people dont usually attack then
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 13:00:59
September 02 2011 12:57 GMT
#1948
On September 02 2011 21:55 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 21:51 KeksX wrote:
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.


Look at the games. It seems hes found a nice hole in peoples builds where he can attack with about 10-15 army pop where people/you have like 4/5 army pop.

Or its just a problem in your build :D. He probably modified the strat to attack then or something because people dont usually attack then

But look at the early game. Macro, vT, Multitasking etc is way better, but at 4:00 he only has 24 workers. Usually he has like 29 or even 30.
They both went 0 / 100 the first few rounds obviously but he was behind eventhough his stats are better.. >_<'
Even worse: at 4.30 he goes like 50 / 50 but he has nothing in army and a bad economy (again, yesterday he had way more at these times)
So there HAS to be a certain randomness in there, but how can you eliminate that?
Kwanny
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany222 Posts
September 02 2011 13:08 GMT
#1949
On September 02 2011 21:55 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 21:51 KeksX wrote:
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.


Look at the games. It seems hes found a nice hole in peoples builds where he can attack with about 10-15 army pop where people/you have like 4/5 army pop.

Or its just a problem in your build :D. He probably modified the strat to attack then or something because people dont usually attack then


Haha yeah, that's my player.
And Benjef is totally right. I sacrifice a little econ at the beginning and start making units earlier, so even if I'm a little behind, I make up for it by attacking + using pdd. It just might be confusing cuz I didn't feel like changing the names of the builds :D
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 13:12:52
September 02 2011 13:09 GMT
#1950
On September 02 2011 22:08 Kwanny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 21:55 Benjef wrote:
On September 02 2011 21:51 KeksX wrote:
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.


Look at the games. It seems hes found a nice hole in peoples builds where he can attack with about 10-15 army pop where people/you have like 4/5 army pop.

Or its just a problem in your build :D. He probably modified the strat to attack then or something because people dont usually attack then


Haha yeah, that's my player.
And Benjef is totally right. I sacrifice a little econ at the beginning and start making units earlier, so even if I'm a little behind, I make up for it by attacking + using pdd. It just might be confusing cuz I didn't feel like changing the names of the builds :D

Look, thats not the point I'm trying to make T__T'

Just compare the stats and look at the first few rounds. You are ahead.
Question: Why?

I'm trying to figure out what stats are best and what strategy is the most effective, but with these kind of randomnish results you can't really tell.
Kwanny
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany222 Posts
September 02 2011 13:13 GMT
#1951
On September 02 2011 22:09 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 22:08 Kwanny wrote:
On September 02 2011 21:55 Benjef wrote:
On September 02 2011 21:51 KeksX wrote:
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.


Look at the games. It seems hes found a nice hole in peoples builds where he can attack with about 10-15 army pop where people/you have like 4/5 army pop.

Or its just a problem in your build :D. He probably modified the strat to attack then or something because people dont usually attack then


Haha yeah, that's my player.
And Benjef is totally right. I sacrifice a little econ at the beginning and start making units earlier, so even if I'm a little behind, I make up for it by attacking + using pdd. It just might be confusing cuz I didn't feel like changing the names of the builds :D

Look, thats not the point I'm trying to make T__T'

Just compare the stats and look at the first few rounds. You are ahead.
Question: Why?

I'm trying to figure out what stats are best and what strategy is the most effective, but with these kind of randomnish results you can't really tell.


Ah, I get you. That's pretty weird indeed. I don't quite have an explaination for that <_<
ForlornHope
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam111 Posts
September 02 2011 13:23 GMT
#1952
awesome
Mass Marine
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
September 02 2011 13:24 GMT
#1953
The whole strategy thing is kinda weird; there are so many things to vary, and no real explanation of what all the numbers mean. I cbf thinking of new strats so if anyone wants to share their tips let me know :D I usually just use the standard ones.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 13:32:23
September 02 2011 13:27 GMT
#1954
On September 02 2011 22:24 Ryder. wrote:
The whole strategy thing is kinda weird; there are so many things to vary, and no real explanation of what all the numbers mean. I cbf thinking of new strats so if anyone wants to share their tips let me know :D I usually just use the standard ones.

Well without proper testing methods you can't really tell, as far as I know just keep your stats up and go for army early enough without cutting eco too much(going 50 / 50 sometimes etc). Thats all I can say for now.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
September 02 2011 13:42 GMT
#1955
I'm assuming he put in a 'max players per tournament' in to stop them from filling so fast, but I just realized another even more important reaoson...

http://sc2manager.org/viewteam.php?id=2905

49 players lol, this bloke could literally spam the join button and have a very likely chance on winning a lot of money just by taking up most of the spots..
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
September 02 2011 13:49 GMT
#1956
On September 02 2011 21:51 KeksX wrote:
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.


What were the starting staminas?
Hello World!
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 13:55:21
September 02 2011 13:50 GMT
#1957
On September 02 2011 22:49 craz3d wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 21:51 KeksX wrote:
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.


What were the starting staminas?

I always make sure that WhipDelicate has 10 / 10 when he's playing, he has pretty good endurance, too, so he definitely had 10 / 10.

Does he play worse when he is on 8 / 10 or something? I thought it was just 0 / 10 when it affects players?

Oh, and look at this..
Again, 10 / 10:
http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=487433

He is supposed to go 50 / 50 at 4:30(for a pretty long time) just 100% army for a few rounds ... look at what he does... I can't tell why he does that T_T

It's not just my players. My other players win even though their opponents are way better Oo
Kryt0s
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany209 Posts
September 02 2011 13:53 GMT
#1958
Looks awesome, will see how addictive it makes me
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
September 02 2011 13:59 GMT
#1959
On September 02 2011 22:50 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 22:49 craz3d wrote:
On September 02 2011 21:51 KeksX wrote:
Wow the strategy and battles are driving me insane >__<

http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=482869
My player has way better stats than him, was fully energized etc, yet, he was behind in everything ( I just modified basic terran a bit and called it modified terran, it has more 50 / 50 in it etc), yet he did everything worse than brainhead... (I know that if he goes 50 / 50 and brainhead goes 100 / 0 he'll be behind in army, but he was behind all game long, even when both went 0 / 100 in the early game..)

Am I the only one experiencing randomness in the games ? WhipDelicate is like either way too good for everyone or too bad to win a game, thats so weird.


What were the starting staminas?

I always make sure that WhipDelicate has 10 / 10 when he's playing, he has pretty good endurance, too, so he definitely had 10 / 10.

Does he play worse when he is on 8 / 10 or something? I thought it was just 0 / 10 when it affects players?

Oh, and look at this..
Again, 10 / 10:
http://sc2manager.org/viewseries.php?id=487433

He is supposed to go 50 / 50 at 4:30(for a pretty long time) just 100% army for a few rounds ... look at what he does... I can't tell why he does that T_T

It's not just my players. My other players win even though their opponents are way better Oo


Makes no sense. Maybe there's a hidden stat for how many tournaments a player can play in a day. But your player has better stats all around yet still falls behind in workers even though both players are the same race and at 100% eco.
Hello World!
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 14:18:28
September 02 2011 14:18 GMT
#1960
Yea, I really hope they give more insight into the battles or make the strategy A.I. better so that you can do stuff like I tried (like mentioned before, going 100% army all the time and changing it when behind in economy, they don't do that either) so that you don't have to "micro" your battles for every series.

Such a good game,... if only this would be clear. T_T
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