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F. United's decision in GSTL

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tendence
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland61 Posts
August 25 2011 16:49 GMT
#1
Warning! Might contain spoilers (GSTL, Aug 25th 2011)

Just a small, general thought I had, and I'd really like to hear your guys' opinion on this.

F.United sends out 2 foreigner Terrans, and then FoxLyn, in my eyes, one of the weaker Korean Terrans out there, in Team League today.

I don't wanna discuss the games or anything, but I wonder, what the thought process of sending out 3 Terrans was.

Korean Terrans are, in my opinion, leagues above foreign Terrans. Which of course also means, that foreign non-Terrans are adapted to very high level Terran play.
So why would they send out 3 Terrans in a row, after seeing that boongboong is very well capable to deny harassement and standard Terran play?

I don't mean to be harsh on Thorzain, Fenix or Lyn, but to let them play against players who are used to play strong korean terrans, to me it makes just no sense.

What do you think about that?

Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 25 2011 16:51 GMT
#2
Naniwa wasn't there and Lyn > Soccer
SaSe fan club manager
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 25 2011 16:51 GMT
#3
Who else were they going to use?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 25 2011 16:53 GMT
#4
I guess Thorzain and Fenix have never won a game in Korea then...
itsTheSituatioN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States70 Posts
August 25 2011 16:53 GMT
#5
In a team league you want to send out
1. your best players left OR
2. someone who is capable of sniping the player

just because he won 1 game vs terran does not mean he will easily beat all terrans or be worse vs other races. you act like if he hasn't played vs other race in weeks.

also, FUNITED had only terrans that day except soccer, who has not won a gsl game yet.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
August 25 2011 16:54 GMT
#6
You're right OP but who else are they going to use, really? I wish they had sent Moon sooner though.
Try another route paperboy.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
August 25 2011 16:54 GMT
#7
If there is another "F.United" type team next GSTL, they seriously need a deeper roster. I doubt they can even factor which race a certain player is weak against into their decisions, especially with Naniwa gone.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
August 25 2011 16:56 GMT
#8
I don't think they care that much. Bad times for foreigners to go over and play GSTL when the only koreans and half the roster is playing wc3 for WCG.

I hope for a foreigner team next season but with players who practice Starcraft 2 and takes this seriously and not practicing wc3.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
August 25 2011 16:57 GMT
#9
the seeding was alright. Sometimes you just lose and this time it wasn`t because of bad seeding.
keep it deep! @zulison
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46043 Posts
August 25 2011 16:57 GMT
#10
Didn't Thorzain kick ass last time around?

I don't disagree with their picks.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 25 2011 16:58 GMT
#11
On August 26 2011 01:56 Termit wrote:
I don't think they care that much. Bad times for foreigners to go over and play GSTL when the only koreans and half the roster is playing wc3 for WCG.

I hope for a foreigner team next season but with players who practice Starcraft 2 and takes this seriously and not practicing wc3.

Idra, Huk and Puma might say hello to you.
Priwall
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany68 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 17:02:29
August 25 2011 16:59 GMT
#12
http://sc2ranks.com/tw/787962/mouzThorZaIN

Thorzain is actually doing very good on kr ladder.
HerO played Thorzain twice (I think) on his stream and lost both games. You couldnt be more wrong sir.
tendence
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland61 Posts
August 25 2011 16:59 GMT
#13
Some mentioned it here, exaclty what my point was:
Why not sending out moon earlier?

To be honest, I skipped most parts of pre-/postgame, so I didn't know they had so few non-T...

Explains a lot.
Still, Moon as the last one is still kinda funny.

Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
August 25 2011 16:59 GMT
#14
What choice do they have? They only had those 4 players on the bench as far as I saw. Soccer wasn't even there. F.United's coach didn't have a choice when it comes to arranging the picks.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 25 2011 17:00 GMT
#15
On August 26 2011 01:59 Priwall wrote:
http://sc2ranks.com/tw/787962/mouzThorZaIN

Thorzain is actually doing very good on kr ladder.
HerO played Thorzain twice (I think) on his stream and lost both games. You couldnt be more wrong sir.

I'm pretty sure he won one and lost one
SaSe fan club manager
AndreiDaGiant
Profile Joined October 2010
United States394 Posts
August 25 2011 17:00 GMT
#16
i think your logic is flawed
Terran Metal for the Win
act.hero
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
August 25 2011 17:00 GMT
#17
They played those players because they only have 5 players.

How is this a question about decision making?
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
August 25 2011 17:00 GMT
#18
To be honest with lyn and moon practising warcraft 3, the coach had an effective roaster of 3 player.
I don't think you can blame him on making any bad decision except sending out thorzain first (as his weak matchup is TvZ and you would prefer to try to snipe a zerg before).

It's not a team like IM or oGs where you have the choice between 10 code A/S level players...
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
August 25 2011 17:01 GMT
#19
On August 26 2011 01:49 tendence wrote:
Warning! Might contain spoilers (GSTL, Aug 25th 2011)

Just a small, general thought I had, and I'd really like to hear your guys' opinion on this.

F.United sends out 2 foreigner Terrans, and then FoxLyn, in my eyes, one of the weaker Korean Terrans out there, in Team League today.

I don't wanna discuss the games or anything, but I wonder, what the thought process of sending out 3 Terrans was.

Korean Terrans are, in my opinion, leagues above foreign Terrans. Which of course also means, that foreign non-Terrans are adapted to very high level Terran play.
So why would they send out 3 Terrans in a row, after seeing that boongboong is very well capable to deny harassement and standard Terran play?

I don't mean to be harsh on Thorzain, Fenix or Lyn, but to let them play against players who are used to play strong korean terrans, to me it makes just no sense.

What do you think about that?


Ok. Let's think this through together. They shouldn't have used Thorzain, Fenix or Lyn. Naniwa is on his way to Raleigh so he wasn't available.


Who are the four players they should have fielded?
Jeremyy
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada182 Posts
August 25 2011 17:01 GMT
#20
The problem is Lyn and Moon are preparing for war3 WCG, they both just got top 2 in the korean qualifier so they are practicing it lots I bet.
Where's the pleasure in that?
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