• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:05
CEST 08:05
KST 15:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners5Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Douyu Cup 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
Data needed Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW fans in southern Sweden, look here! 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08
Tourneys
[BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streaming Impacts Game P…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7185 users

TossGirL in SC2 - Page 12

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 24 2011 10:07 GMT
#221
On August 24 2011 18:59 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 18:43 Tuthur wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:35 Boonbag wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:50 Waxangel wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:41 Arschmade wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.


Korans are crazy. This whole culture is a joke.


. Koreans are just more honest with the reality of the world



oh come on


I think the reality is that TossGirl didn't need that surgery to look good before
It's just different lighting, angle, and makeup. Her face variates a lot in different photos of her. Rest assured, she doesn't get a plastic surgery for each photo.


Makeup does wonders, ya know
Dear Sixsmith...
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
August 24 2011 10:17 GMT
#222
On August 24 2011 18:57 Jonas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 17:49 Ruscour wrote:
On August 24 2011 17:45 danielzig wrote:
How many women can you think of who have even TRIED to be programmers? I can't think of very many... ToSSgirl is a Treasure
That's the main reason I think that females are so rare on the SC2 scene, it probably has nothing to do with actual skill, but more to do with the number of women who can actually be bothered enough to try SC2 at a high level.

21% of programmers are female


Citation needed on that one, bro

Derp.... a programmer is someone who programs stuff. I don't think you realized that this guy was probably just trolling you for not realizing one of the most laughed at misspellings of eSports. lol
pro gamer =/= programmer.

I hope that ToSsGirl is playing sc2 competitively. I hope we see many more females start doing well in professional eSports in the near future, with ToSsGirl Marie Luway and the active girls of ESL leading the way.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Genovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden388 Posts
August 24 2011 10:29 GMT
#223
I do not get all the negativity. Cant we just be happy that we might have another Sc BW progamer switch over to Sc2?
We fucking lost team - RTZ
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 24 2011 10:33 GMT
#224
On August 24 2011 19:29 Genovi wrote:
I do not get all the negativity. Cant we just be happy that we might have another Sc BW progamer switch over to Sc2?


basement nerds tend to hate on females for some odd reason
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 10:43:05
August 24 2011 10:42 GMT
#225
Very cool would definitely wish to play her ^^
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 10:58:20
August 24 2011 10:57 GMT
#226
This maybe means the first (BIG) step to the mass transfer from BW.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 11:03:00
August 24 2011 11:01 GMT
#227
On August 24 2011 18:56 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 18:53 Elefanto wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:26 Boonbag wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:15 Elefanto wrote:
On August 24 2011 17:53 koolaid1990 wrote:
On August 24 2011 17:52 Evangelist wrote:
I find it amusing how someone who was like D-- like MC was and known for dying continually can be lauded as the amazing protoss, but the moment a woman tries to do the same thing the nerds are talking about how it's an "embarassment to the community."

This attitude needs to die a bloody death.

what the fuck MC was A- team LOL


Not really.



Iron beeing on proleague roster at some point ,would mean A team.

Besides that BW pro teams are far from equal.

MBC hero was one of the small ones, so some A Teamers would be B teamers in other teams.

Anyhow I would never say Iron was a bad player, rather an excellent protoss. But then at the same time you have people such as bisu / stork / kal / movie etc.. it's not easy to be THAT good.


Yeah, that's what i meant. He would never be an A-Teamer @ KT / CJ / SKT etc.
He was lucky that MBC isn't very deep.
Of course everyone getting to the A-Team or playing TV is an AWESOME player, but compared to the bigger guns he was, well, bad.


dude he qualified for starleague ?
was on proleague roster?
MBC wasn't the biggest team but not the worse by any mean.
and there's no luck at that level of BW.

What starleague did he qualify for?
Being on the roster doesn't mean you're on the A team. The average BW team roster is 10-16 players large, including several A- and B teamers. In terms of the protoss race, MC was MBC's fourth choice protoss. He was not good. Better than tossgirl probably but no, not a good player in BW and he wasn't improving either. Switching to SC2 was the right choice for him.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 11:07:17
August 24 2011 11:05 GMT
#228
On August 24 2011 20:01 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 18:56 Boonbag wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:53 Elefanto wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:26 Boonbag wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:15 Elefanto wrote:
On August 24 2011 17:53 koolaid1990 wrote:
On August 24 2011 17:52 Evangelist wrote:
I find it amusing how someone who was like D-- like MC was and known for dying continually can be lauded as the amazing protoss, but the moment a woman tries to do the same thing the nerds are talking about how it's an "embarassment to the community."

This attitude needs to die a bloody death.

what the fuck MC was A- team LOL


Not really.



Iron beeing on proleague roster at some point ,would mean A team.

Besides that BW pro teams are far from equal.

MBC hero was one of the small ones, so some A Teamers would be B teamers in other teams.

Anyhow I would never say Iron was a bad player, rather an excellent protoss. But then at the same time you have people such as bisu / stork / kal / movie etc.. it's not easy to be THAT good.


Yeah, that's what i meant. He would never be an A-Teamer @ KT / CJ / SKT etc.
He was lucky that MBC isn't very deep.
Of course everyone getting to the A-Team or playing TV is an AWESOME player, but compared to the bigger guns he was, well, bad.


dude he qualified for starleague ?
was on proleague roster?
MBC wasn't the biggest team but not the worse by any mean.
and there's no luck at that level of BW.

What starleague did he qualify for?
Being on the roster doesn't mean you're on the A team. The average BW team roster is 10-16 players large, including several A- and B teamers. In terms of the protoss race, MC was MBC's fourth choice protoss. He was not good. Better than tossgirl probably but no, not a good player in BW and he wasn't improving either. Switching to SC2 was the right choice for him.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/167_Bacchus2009_OSL
2009 OSL.
He was in the rooster, he was not "D-" LOL. He was not great, but lets not bash on him too much ok?
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 24 2011 11:48 GMT
#229
On August 24 2011 20:05 tnud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 20:01 Ryo wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:56 Boonbag wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:53 Elefanto wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:26 Boonbag wrote:
On August 24 2011 18:15 Elefanto wrote:
On August 24 2011 17:53 koolaid1990 wrote:
On August 24 2011 17:52 Evangelist wrote:
I find it amusing how someone who was like D-- like MC was and known for dying continually can be lauded as the amazing protoss, but the moment a woman tries to do the same thing the nerds are talking about how it's an "embarassment to the community."

This attitude needs to die a bloody death.

what the fuck MC was A- team LOL


Not really.



Iron beeing on proleague roster at some point ,would mean A team.

Besides that BW pro teams are far from equal.

MBC hero was one of the small ones, so some A Teamers would be B teamers in other teams.

Anyhow I would never say Iron was a bad player, rather an excellent protoss. But then at the same time you have people such as bisu / stork / kal / movie etc.. it's not easy to be THAT good.


Yeah, that's what i meant. He would never be an A-Teamer @ KT / CJ / SKT etc.
He was lucky that MBC isn't very deep.
Of course everyone getting to the A-Team or playing TV is an AWESOME player, but compared to the bigger guns he was, well, bad.


dude he qualified for starleague ?
was on proleague roster?
MBC wasn't the biggest team but not the worse by any mean.
and there's no luck at that level of BW.

What starleague did he qualify for?
Being on the roster doesn't mean you're on the A team. The average BW team roster is 10-16 players large, including several A- and B teamers. In terms of the protoss race, MC was MBC's fourth choice protoss. He was not good. Better than tossgirl probably but no, not a good player in BW and he wasn't improving either. Switching to SC2 was the right choice for him.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/167_Bacchus2009_OSL
2009 OSL.
He was in the rooster, he was not "D-" LOL. He was not great, but lets not bash on him too much ok?

No he did not qualify for the Bacchus OSL. Qualifying for a starleague means Ro16 for OSL and Ro32 for MSL. I never said he was "D-" but he certainly wasn't A team on MBC.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
August 24 2011 14:44 GMT
#230
On August 24 2011 06:26 legaton wrote:
So.... TossGirl jumping to SC2 is the sign of what, OP? TossGirl is the saddest story of e-sports. She's just a gamer that lacks the mechanics and talent to really become a professional BW player (she actually was worst than Idra, and that's pretty bad), yet still around as a marketing gimmick. Her only appeal was that she was a girl, and she's getting old... I remember reading an interview about females in Broodwar Most of them were commentators and managers. She was the only player, and she sounded pretty bitter and rightly so. I really believe she loved broodwar, but she just wasn't cut to it.

If it is true, i hope she wins some bucks as she needs them after all these years making little to nothing in Broodwar. But Tossgirl beating SC2 pros would be, i think,the nail of the coffin of SC2 prestige in Korea. It would really means a lot if she becomes a good player of SC2.


I've understood that SC2 is more about decision making. There must be other stuff too that's more important in sc2 than in BW. Mechanics really are not too hard in SC2, but in BW...
Yeah, I'm trying to say SC2 and SC1 are both good and different games.
Hopefully Tossgirl does better in SC2 (maybe it suit's her better). Best for Tossgirl =)
as useful as teasalt
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
August 24 2011 15:54 GMT
#231
I'm sure she can break any male gamer if she puts her head into it..

Joke aside,

She is the same age with me, I might take a shot since my GF left me and I feel entitled..

Day9 joke aside,

I really wish her the best.
Not enough energy
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 24 2011 16:02 GMT
#232
If The Elephant in the Room is correct, Tossgirl is going to stomp faces.

I'm looking forward to it!
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
August 24 2011 16:07 GMT
#233
On August 25 2011 01:02 bonifaceviii wrote:
If The Elephant in the Room is correct, Tossgirl is going to stomp faces.

I'm looking forward to it!


If the Elephant in the Rooms was correct, then Nada, July( and Boxer) would already have stomped everything.
the game is the game
DragonDefonce
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States790 Posts
August 24 2011 16:14 GMT
#234
As much as I want Tossgirl to do well, I don't think she will. She has about 400 sc1 apm but hasn't been doing well. While in sc1, having a high apm puts you significantly at an advantage, sc2 has shown time and time again that apm after a certain range isn't all that important. If she has been doing poorly, and she has a great apm, that means her game sense is off, and it will only worsen in sc2.
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
August 24 2011 16:23 GMT
#235
On August 25 2011 01:07 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 01:02 bonifaceviii wrote:
If The Elephant in the Room is correct, Tossgirl is going to stomp faces.

I'm looking forward to it!


If the Elephant in the Rooms was correct, then Nada, July( and Boxer) would already have stomped everything.

Not at all because the average skill in 2009-2010 was significantly higher than when July,NaDa, Boxer were at their peak. Their results weren't so hot in late BW.
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
August 24 2011 16:26 GMT
#236
On August 25 2011 01:07 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 01:02 bonifaceviii wrote:
If The Elephant in the Room is correct, Tossgirl is going to stomp faces.

I'm looking forward to it!


If the Elephant in the Rooms was correct, then Nada, July( and Boxer) would already have stomped everything.


Those three were "over the hill" BW players. Look at someone like Nestea and MC barely winning any BW Proleague games and stomping face in SC2. Elephant in the room was more about the current BW players that play on a weekly basis in Proleague games, THOSE are the ones that would push SC2 to the next level.

Tossgirl is an "over the hill" BW player.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 24 2011 16:28 GMT
#237
On August 25 2011 01:07 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 01:02 bonifaceviii wrote:
If The Elephant in the Room is correct, Tossgirl is going to stomp faces.

I'm looking forward to it!


If the Elephant in the Rooms was correct, then Nada, July( and Boxer) would already have stomped everything.


That isn't even what that article was about.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 16:32:14
August 24 2011 16:30 GMT
#238
On August 25 2011 01:26 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 01:07 kusto wrote:
On August 25 2011 01:02 bonifaceviii wrote:
If The Elephant in the Room is correct, Tossgirl is going to stomp faces.

I'm looking forward to it!


If the Elephant in the Rooms was correct, then Nada, July( and Boxer) would already have stomped everything.


Those three were "over the hill" BW players. Look at someone like Nestea and MC barely winning any BW Proleague games and stomping face in SC2. Elephant in the room was more about the current BW players that play on a weekly basis in Proleague games, THOSE are the ones that would push SC2 to the next level.

Tossgirl is an "over the hill" BW player.

Nada wasn't really over the hill was he? Not amazing anymore or anything but he still did OK at the top level?

Anyway the likes of MC or Nestea were definitely worse than he ever was in BW, yet they're both comfortably better than him in SC2. The games aren't identical which is why that article was daft.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11535 Posts
August 24 2011 16:31 GMT
#239
I think I liked it better when she was still in BW- she managed to fly under the radar of all the "females in esports" hatin'. Sheesh.
ModeratorDavid Duke, Richard Spencer, Nick Fuentes, Daily Stormer... "Some very fine people on both sides"
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
August 24 2011 16:31 GMT
#240
Tossgirl to sc2 please <3
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
22:30
OSC Elite Rising Star #19
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 117
ProTech89
FoxeR 70
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3756
Sea 3143
PianO 283
Tasteless 212
Aegong 86
Mind 52
ZergMaN 31
Bale 18
Noble 13
Nal_rA 9
[ Show more ]
Icarus 7
JulyZerg 7
GoRush 4
Zeus 0
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm140
League of Legends
JimRising 715
Other Games
summit1g6933
C9.Mang0531
WinterStarcraft471
RuFF_SC279
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV193
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1454
Upcoming Events
OSC
6h 56m
Maestros of the Game
7h 56m
Classic vs Maru
Serral vs herO
TBD vs Clem
Replay Cast
17h 56m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 3h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 8h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 12h
eOnzErG vs Mihu
Messiah vs XuanXuan
Jaystar vs TerrOr
Dewalt vs Bonyth
eOnzErG vs XuanXuan
Mihu vs TerrOr
Messiah vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
Acropolis #4 - GSB
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.