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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
August 24 2011 05:55 GMT
#181
On August 24 2011 07:44 Kipsate wrote:
Move aside SlayersEve, the real Gamer gurl is here.


agreed
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 24 2011 06:04 GMT
#182
On August 24 2011 13:59 lbmaian wrote:
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On August 24 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:
On August 24 2011 11:39 hmunkey wrote:
On August 24 2011 11:36 Headnoob wrote:
tooooooo much attention being paid to her being female.

as a player she was pretty ehhhhhhhhhhh in BW, i'm curious to see her play SC2 but not entirely excited.

As a BW player she was better than pretty much every foreigner and a lot of the so-called top Koreans in SC2...

No, this is just wrong. She was a B-Teamer, and there are plenty of foreigners who could be at that level if they put the time into Korea. There are also dozens of pro's now who were simply better than her too. People give MC shit for being 1-9 in Televised matchs, she was 3-19 in pro matches.


Technically 3/19 is a better ratio than 1/9 :p


Compare their overall results and not just the games that counted towards ELO and you'll get a much better comparison. In the time Tossgirl and MC's careers overlapped, Tossgirl only was 12-45 while MC was 43-42.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
August 24 2011 06:12 GMT
#183
On August 24 2011 14:54 sAfuRos wrote:
Yea idra was pretty close to the bottom of the barrel for the majority of his stay in korea and he was definitely the best foreigner in BW with Nony and F91 behind, and they stomped all the other foreigners pretty hard

Except Pj and Lx, and if we want to delve into the past, Legionnaire, Giyom, Elky, hell even Mondragon and Sen and some others could have at least made it in Korea.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
August 24 2011 06:23 GMT
#184
On August 24 2011 06:33 windsupernova wrote:
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On August 24 2011 06:27 Goldfish wrote:
TossGirl has a lot of potential in SC2. I'm really interested!

Would she be one of the higher level BW players playing SC2? Well she isn't top tier but she is still good right?


Not even close, I mean she was good, but I don´t think she was above even some of the B teamers that now are doing quite well in SC2. MVP is still the highest ranking BW player who switched over


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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
August 24 2011 06:23 GMT
#185
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ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
August 24 2011 07:40 GMT
#186
On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.
Arschmade
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany19 Posts
August 24 2011 07:41 GMT
#187
On August 24 2011 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
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On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.


Korans are crazy. This whole culture is a joke.

User was banned for this post.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33627 Posts
August 24 2011 07:50 GMT
#188
On August 24 2011 16:41 Arschmade wrote:
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On August 24 2011 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.


Korans are crazy. This whole culture is a joke.


Dunno, there's a pretty good rationalization for it.

We live in a materialistic world, even though we'd rather live in one that wasn't so shallow. You can't realistically expect people not to take looks into account. I can't think of a specific study off the top of my head, but I'm sure there have been several that show good looking people do better financially/materially.

Cynical as it may be, cosmetic surgery can be a very good investment for the future. Koreans are just more honest with the reality of the world

That said, I have no idea whether tossgirl had some surgery or not from that one pic :O
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 07:59:49
August 24 2011 07:56 GMT
#189
On August 24 2011 16:50 Waxangel wrote:
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On August 24 2011 16:41 Arschmade wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.


Korans are crazy. This whole culture is a joke.


Dunno, there's a pretty good rationalization for it.

We live in a materialistic world, even though we'd rather live in one that wasn't so shallow. You can't realistically expect people not to take looks into account. I can't think of a specific study off the top of my head, but I'm sure there have been several that show good looking people do better financially/materially.

Cynical as it may be, cosmetic surgery can be a very good investment for the future. Koreans are just more honest with the reality of the world

That said, I have no idea whether tossgirl had some surgery or not from that one pic :O

Not going to comment on your philosophy but plastic surgery is definitely the norm for Korean girls who have already graduated from high school. In fact, I'd say about 80% of the girls in Seoul in their final year of high school have had some form cosmetic surgery done - eyelid surgery is the most common. Plastic surgery is less prevalent outside Seoul. Also, that doesn't mean that everyone comes out looking like a Korean model. Mostly, Korean girls only have a couple surgeries (likely eye and nose, and for the nose surgery, they may cite some "medical" reason for it like that it helps them breathe better).

Edit: that is to say that for those of you who worship models like Hwang Mi Hee and Ryu Ji Hye, well I hope you don't have some type of ideal of natural beauty, because they have had a lot of surgery in a profession that is intensely competitive
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sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 08:07:29
August 24 2011 08:01 GMT
#190
On August 24 2011 16:41 Arschmade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.


Korans are crazy. This whole culture is a joke.

wow, i felt offended by a idiot who doesn't even know how to spell Korean
does anyone know where report button is?
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12736 Posts
August 24 2011 08:05 GMT
#191
On August 24 2011 16:41 Arschmade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.


Korans are crazy. This whole culture is a joke.

wtf, no insulting please.
Imagine everyone living in your country is fricking johnny depp level of handsome, getting all the jobs and getting some girls (not all since everyone is that good looking).
You will just end up forever alone and worse yet, who knows if you can find a good job (look matters quite a lot in jobs, contraction to most would believe)
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sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
August 24 2011 08:09 GMT
#192
On August 24 2011 15:12 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 14:54 sAfuRos wrote:
Yea idra was pretty close to the bottom of the barrel for the majority of his stay in korea and he was definitely the best foreigner in BW with Nony and F91 behind, and they stomped all the other foreigners pretty hard

Except Pj and Lx, and if we want to delve into the past, Legionnaire, Giyom, Elky, hell even Mondragon and Sen and some others could have at least made it in Korea.


Yes but we don't really delve into the past because thats largely irrelevant to what we're talking about and its hard to really say given improvements in skill...2010 BW IdrA would likely be A-team quality in the early-mid 2000's...its like comparing Boris Becker to Roger Federer...like yes, they (Legionnaire, Elky, etc) used to be great, but they are not the same. ALthough that's not to say any of the players listed would not still be top players

Anyways...given the relative ease of mechanics in SC2 and general aptitude of any BW progamer, anything could happen, so best of luck to Tossgirl
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 24 2011 08:13 GMT
#193
and so it (maybe) begins

wonder how fast and big her fanclub will become
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Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
August 24 2011 08:13 GMT
#194
Jessica should pick her up, too.
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 24 2011 08:18 GMT
#195
wow, i can really see tossgirl being absolutely awesome in sc2!

would be cool if there were a few girls that could really destroy some nerds in sc2. ^^
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julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
August 24 2011 08:19 GMT
#196
On August 24 2011 16:41 Arschmade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.


Korans are crazy. This whole culture is a joke.

Whatever your culture is, it's going to look crazy and/or foolish to someone else.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 08:27:31
August 24 2011 08:19 GMT
#197
On August 24 2011 16:50 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 16:41 Arschmade wrote:
On August 24 2011 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
On August 24 2011 13:50 mikyaJ wrote:
Tossgirl looks really different now

[image loading]


woah, she looks so different.....it's like she had plastic surgery, which is quite common in Korea.


Korans are crazy. This whole culture is a joke.


Dunno, there's a pretty good rationalization for it.


You are right. But maybe the poster above chose the wrong word. This is probably not Korean culture, but Korean Popculture. If one says it this way, then you can see parallels to our Popculture, but there it seems a bit more extreme as it appears to me.
Also i don't know how dominant stuff like K-pop is in Korea compared to our cheesy, superficial Popmusic in Europe/US is, which is the epitome of what you stated.
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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
August 24 2011 08:28 GMT
#198
On August 24 2011 14:02 JL_GG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 06:29 zerious wrote:
On August 24 2011 06:27 Goldfish wrote:
TossGirl has a lot of potential in SC2. I'm really interested!

Would she be one of the higher level BW players playing SC2? Well she isn't top tier but she is still good right?


Doubt she's even BW B-team level. She will definitely be the best female SC2 player though.

Um bro she was on the A team roster like a few month ago March I think....


LOL are you serious dude? It's common knowledge that she ain't nearly as good as any B-teamer. Not even CLOSE.
danielzig
Profile Joined December 2010
32 Posts
August 24 2011 08:45 GMT
#199
How many women can you think of who have even TRIED to be programmers? I can't think of very many... ToSSgirl is a Treasure
That's the main reason I think that females are so rare on the SC2 scene, it probably has nothing to do with actual skill, but more to do with the number of women who can actually be bothered enough to try SC2 at a high level.
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
August 24 2011 08:46 GMT
#200
On August 24 2011 14:41 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:
On August 24 2011 11:39 hmunkey wrote:
On August 24 2011 11:36 Headnoob wrote:
tooooooo much attention being paid to her being female.

as a player she was pretty ehhhhhhhhhhh in BW, i'm curious to see her play SC2 but not entirely excited.

As a BW player she was better than pretty much every foreigner and a lot of the so-called top Koreans in SC2...

No, this is just wrong. She was a B-Teamer, and there are plenty of foreigners who could be at that level if they put the time into Korea. There are also dozens of pro's now who were simply better than her too. People give MC shit for being 1-9 in Televised matchs, she was 3-19 in pro matches.


It was proven time and again that B-teamers were easily better than top foreigners.

However, I agree with you in the sense that Tossgirl is not even close to an average B-teamer. She is in all likelihood the very worst progamer in Korea. Just look at what she's done in preliminaries. Since the beginning of 2008 (arbitrarily) she's 10-41 - in preliminaries. She has only advanced past the first round of her group 3 times, and never further than that.

Lol, at least she´s better than Hyungjoon so not the worst progamer <3
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