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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 20:39:36
August 23 2011 05:27 GMT
#1
StarCraft finally received some solid, mainstream coverage this week through the growth of the BarCraft movement. WSJ journalist Amir Efrati attended BarCraft San Francisco (tuning in to MLG Anaheim) and tried to explain how nerd-ballers are no longer satisfied with watching by them lonesome, and coming to sports bars in droves, begging/demanding to watch some StarCraft with beer.

SAN FRANCISCO—One Sunday afternoon last month, a hundred boisterous patrons crowded into Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar here, to watch a live broadcast.


Internet e-sports like Starcraft2 have big-name pro players, announcers who broadcast matches, and millions of fans who'd rather watch the action online or in bars than play themselves. WSJ's Amir Efrati reports.

Half the flat-screen TVs were tuned to a blood-filled match between two Korean competitors, "MC" and "Puma." The crowd erupted in chants of "M-C! M-C!" when the favorite started a comeback...


StarCraft and BarCraft are featured on
  • The front page of Wall Street Journal website
  • Front page of the dead-tree, August 23rd 2011 version of the WSJ
  • WSJ this morning, a radio show produced by the Wall Street Journal that's syndicated worldwide.



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Shameless plug to remind you to visit your local BarCraft scene to watch MLG Raleigh.
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If there isn't a BarCraft near you yet, please follow Day9's advice,

"Stop asking for permission, go f**king do it!"


Thank God and gunrun.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
August 23 2011 05:30 GMT
#2
They make it sound like Starcraft II's being broadcasted on TV in Korea =(.

Oh well, this is great coverage nonetheless.
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 05:32:44
August 23 2011 05:32 GMT
#3
This is win. Now all they got to do is have actual cable networks that broadcast these games.
It aint easy being crazy
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
August 23 2011 05:40 GMT
#4
Thanks God they didn't cover the riots when MC lost hahaha
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
August 23 2011 05:40 GMT
#5
Totally boss. I definitely encourage everybody to head out to one of these, I feel it really gains esports a lot of exposure.

I'm planning on heading to my first one in Boulder, CO this weekend for MLG :D
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
DomiNater
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States527 Posts
August 23 2011 05:41 GMT
#6
Yeah so I must have missed the part where the bar fight broke out over SC2 being on the screen... Misleading title, but a decent article nonetheless.

+ Show Spoiler +
The appeal is lost on some patrons. During a Barcraft in July at Public Tenley, a Washington, D.C., sports bar where seat cushions are made from the same leather used in basketballs and footballs, manager Deric Ortiz said he changed one of 26 monitors to a baseball game after a customer pleaded with him to switch the screen near him to show "anything but this videogame."

OMG what a tragedy!
After I captured the elephant in the room, swept her under the rug for the hell of it... I welcome you to the melting through, of a planet that was selfish in its development of a healthy view.
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
August 23 2011 05:44 GMT
#7
Great news. Its all good for da esports! :=)
han_han
Profile Joined October 2010
United States205 Posts
August 23 2011 05:45 GMT
#8
Hell, I'd go to a bar to watch starcraft II matches. Rather than watch alone and quietly at night, doing silent fist pumps when my favorite player wins, I can scream like I want to and not worry about waking anyone up.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 23 2011 05:58 GMT
#9
The article doesn't exactly get all its facts straight but I am super pumped that barcraft is getting mainstream attention!
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
August 23 2011 06:03 GMT
#10
LOL the last paragraph

good coverage though, I guess ;p
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Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
August 23 2011 06:44 GMT
#11
no barcrafts in Raleigh for MLG Raleigh? bummer, not everyone can get a ticket/has the time to go to the event.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Schoenhole
Profile Joined March 2011
United States88 Posts
August 23 2011 06:46 GMT
#12
Thank you WSJ!
(╮°-°)╮︵┳━┳ tables don't like to be flipped
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 23 2011 08:04 GMT
#13
On August 23 2011 15:03 GenesisX wrote:
LOL the last paragraph

good coverage though, I guess ;p


Goes to show how slumping Baseball is as a bar sport in some areas.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Lucid971
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
August 23 2011 08:08 GMT
#14
Looking at that map makes me sad the Ohio Valley area is completely left out
“I will not tiptoe through life, only to arrive safely at death”
Aragos
Profile Joined October 2010
France182 Posts
August 23 2011 08:11 GMT
#15
This is amazing !
warblob004
Profile Joined January 2011
United States198 Posts
August 23 2011 08:18 GMT
#16
Win. Article talks about MC vs Puma, and how the

" digital swarms of an insect-like race called "Zerg" battled the humanoid "Protoss" on the bar's TVs."

" "It's a drone genocide! Flaming drone carcasses all over the place!" "
Was that Artosis?
"I have not failed; I've simply found 10,000 ways it won't work." ~Thomas Edison
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
August 23 2011 08:19 GMT
#17
that is actually a pretty lengthy article, not some 2 paragraph blurb. Pretty amazing
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
August 23 2011 08:31 GMT
#18
Wall Street Journal. Not bad
Founder of the New England SC2 League
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 08:45:15
August 23 2011 08:45 GMT
#19
On August 23 2011 17:18 warblob004 wrote:
Win. Article talks about MC vs Puma, and how the

" digital swarms of an insect-like race called "Zerg" battled the humanoid "Protoss" on the bar's TVs."

" "It's a drone genocide! Flaming drone carcasses all over the place!" "
Was that Artosis?


I'm pretty sure the final series was casted by Gretorp and Incontrol, and now that I think about it I think Gretorp said that.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 08:52:25
August 23 2011 08:52 GMT
#20
i love how "Starcraft" is always put in quote marks in the article. that's like the one slight at the game in an otherwise respectful article.
There can be only none
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
August 23 2011 09:01 GMT
#21
A well written piece, compared to some of the trash we've seen come through the video game blogosphere. Good to see WSJ give SC a fair shake.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
August 23 2011 09:11 GMT
#22
This is awesome. Some good exposure right here.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
August 23 2011 10:08 GMT
#23
Starcraft is also a boat company http://www.starcraftmarine.com/ so they may have done it to differentiate the two.
Founder of the New England SC2 League
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
August 23 2011 10:21 GMT
#24
Haha, solid! Sharing this with friends
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 23 2011 10:36 GMT
#25
Even though some facts are off, the article is very well made for people unfamiliar with the game/scene.
/commercial
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
August 23 2011 11:21 GMT
#26
I wish Durham had Barcraft :-/ this article makes me envious
arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
August 23 2011 11:21 GMT
#27
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2011 14:27 Primadog wrote:
Looks like the eSports community is finally getting some proper attention.
Show nested quote +
SAN FRANCISCO—One Sunday afternoon last month, a hundred boisterous patrons crowded into Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar here, to watch a live broadcast.


Internet e-sports like Starcraft2 have big-name pro players, announcers who broadcast matches, and millions of fans who'd rather watch the action online or in bars than play themselves. WSJ's Amir Efrati reports.

Half the flat-screen TVs were tuned to a blood-filled match between two Korean competitors, "MC" and "Puma." The crowd erupted in chants of "M-C! M-C!" when the favorite started a comeback...

Read the WSJ article in full at http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904070604576516462736084234.html?KEYWORDS=starcraft

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Shameless plug to remind you to visit your local BarCraft scene to watch MLG Raleigh.
[image loading]



"Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar"

That sounds awfully american for an English Pub...
youtube.com/f1337
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 23 2011 11:35 GMT
#28
On August 23 2011 20:21 arthur wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2011 14:27 Primadog wrote:
Looks like the eSports community is finally getting some proper attention.
Show nested quote +
SAN FRANCISCO—One Sunday afternoon last month, a hundred boisterous patrons crowded into Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar here, to watch a live broadcast.


Internet e-sports like Starcraft2 have big-name pro players, announcers who broadcast matches, and millions of fans who'd rather watch the action online or in bars than play themselves. WSJ's Amir Efrati reports.

Half the flat-screen TVs were tuned to a blood-filled match between two Korean competitors, "MC" and "Puma." The crowd erupted in chants of "M-C! M-C!" when the favorite started a comeback...

Read the WSJ article in full at http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904070604576516462736084234.html?KEYWORDS=starcraft

[image loading]




Shameless plug to remind you to visit your local BarCraft scene to watch MLG Raleigh.
[image loading]



"Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar"

That sounds awfully american for an English Pub...


Nah, Mad Dog? Fog? Distinctly British. I'm sure they have a sign out front showing the broadcast times for Premier League, and their best selling beer is Stella.

Joking aside - I want to attend a barcraft this coming weekend but I can't. However, from the last barcraft, I can really see this scene expanding considering we were packed for our first time. Beer and starcraft is a pretty good combo - now if only our group was cheering like the ones in the article...
Yargh
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
August 23 2011 11:45 GMT
#29
On August 23 2011 20:21 arthur wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2011 14:27 Primadog wrote:
Looks like the eSports community is finally getting some proper attention.
Show nested quote +
SAN FRANCISCO—One Sunday afternoon last month, a hundred boisterous patrons crowded into Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar here, to watch a live broadcast.


Internet e-sports like Starcraft2 have big-name pro players, announcers who broadcast matches, and millions of fans who'd rather watch the action online or in bars than play themselves. WSJ's Amir Efrati reports.

Half the flat-screen TVs were tuned to a blood-filled match between two Korean competitors, "MC" and "Puma." The crowd erupted in chants of "M-C! M-C!" when the favorite started a comeback...

Read the WSJ article in full at http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904070604576516462736084234.html?KEYWORDS=starcraft

[image loading]




Shameless plug to remind you to visit your local BarCraft scene to watch MLG Raleigh.
[image loading]



"Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar"

That sounds awfully american for an English Pub...


Check out the video, you can see it looks like a typical pub in Britain.

ESPORTS!!!
Dante_A_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States161 Posts
August 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#30
The video they have paired with the article is a great explanation of what Starcraft 2 is like as a competitive endeavor - I think the video is better than the article itself. Not condescending at all, and treats SC2 like a legitimate activity with legitimate fans. That is pretty big, especially in the Wall Street Journal!

Getting SC2 "mainstream" news coverage like this is important for growing the sponsor base. It raises the visibility of the product (SC2) and the respectability of the competitors. Awesome article!
tw!tch
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States563 Posts
August 23 2011 11:48 GMT
#31
I'm really glad to see this article and video, but hahaha that picture. "A Dark Templar".
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 23 2011 12:11 GMT
#32
America is awesome. Everyone who was included in making this whole BarCraft thing happen is fucking awesome. Wish this was more common in Europe but eh, considering I even live in one of the most conservative parts of Germany I don't think it'll ever happen here.
I'm proud and jealous on you americans the same time. =P
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
August 23 2011 12:33 GMT
#33
Don't WSJ articles require a paid subscription to read? Or was that NYT?
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
August 23 2011 12:44 GMT
#34
This is great, I work in investments and have talked about SC2 with co-works who like tomock my game playing. I feel like the WSJ article is some vindication.
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
August 23 2011 12:52 GMT
#35
I sent this to all my corworkers haha so awesome.
And not too mocking of our guilty pleasure.
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
August 23 2011 12:58 GMT
#36
Mainstream coverage, I crave
I will eat you alive
eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
August 23 2011 12:59 GMT
#37
Really jealous that you guys have this. Nourish this =)
hellohilo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
August 23 2011 13:03 GMT
#38
I did a double take when I read it this morning xD

Awesome to see SC2 getting this sort of exposure!!
i once had a kitty. Kitty lurved me. Then suddenly kitty turned into a destroyer of worlds. T_____T
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#39
Proof that drunk people everywhere are awesome.
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Papulatus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States669 Posts
August 23 2011 13:18 GMT
#40
On August 23 2011 21:33 Sandro wrote:
Don't WSJ articles require a paid subscription to read? Or was that NYT?


Certain articles do. For this particular article it is free.

Funny article! Made me happy :D!
4 Corners in a day.
SLTR.Maverick
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada142 Posts
August 23 2011 14:02 GMT
#41
Stoked for this, more exposure is good as it brings more attention to the scene and therefore more sponsor dollars for teams and tourneys.
[S]laughter Gaming
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
August 23 2011 14:06 GMT
#42
On August 23 2011 14:40 windsupernova wrote:
Thanks God they didn't cover the riots when MC lost hahaha

Yeah, entire keyboards were broken! there was a rash of people yelling "FUCK!" out of their windows, sales of Pumas dropped 0.2%!

Utter madness.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
August 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#43
Just got the print version of this article. Trying to explain the scene to relatives who think this is all news to me isn't the best use of time, I'm finding.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
nShade
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria296 Posts
August 23 2011 14:21 GMT
#44
I could move to the US only because of this!

ESPORTS!
Aoi_10
Profile Joined October 2010
United States155 Posts
August 23 2011 14:27 GMT
#45
On August 23 2011 21:44 mechavoc wrote:
This is great, I work in investments and have talked about SC2 with co-works who like tomock my game playing. I feel like the WSJ article is some vindication.


I'm a biglaw securities litigator who feels your pain. After [Market] Hours Gaming League? Donation to be made in honor of winner to fund for Madoff victims?
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
August 23 2011 14:44 GMT
#46
Hopefully some billionaire wants to host a million dollar sc2 tournament
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
ElementalZerg
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States83 Posts
August 23 2011 14:46 GMT
#47
Dang, the closest one to me is about 500 miles away... Maybe I could convince one of the local places.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#48
The "Starcraft" franchise is more popular in Korea, where two cable TV stations, MBC Game and Ongamenet, provide dedicated coverage. The cable channels and Web networks broadcast other war games such as "Halo," "Counter-Strike," and "Call of Duty." But "Starcraft II" is often the biggest draw.

Not sure about the exact accuracy of this statement, as it seems to be awkwardly worded in a way that implies that MBC Game and OGN broadcast Halo, CS, CoD, and SC2. This slight inaccuracy is slightly bothering me.

Also, the random picture of a DT pencil drawing is hilarious in a random, out-of-place way.

Otherwise, great article, though I'm sorely disappointed about the lack of real bar fights.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
splinter9
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 16:05:41
August 23 2011 16:04 GMT
#49
I would like to suggest that ALL barcraft should have at least a couple computers setup and ready to play. For barcraft to last it is going to need more appeal than JUST watching a few matches.

Depending on mostly introverted nerds to sustain your Barcraft nights will be hard to do over the long haul. The next fad that comes along will drive out the barfcraft nights. Same as how those crappy free poker nights were ruling bars a few years back.
arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
August 23 2011 16:05 GMT
#50
On August 23 2011 20:45 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 20:21 arthur wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2011 14:27 Primadog wrote:
Looks like the eSports community is finally getting some proper attention.
Show nested quote +
SAN FRANCISCO—One Sunday afternoon last month, a hundred boisterous patrons crowded into Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar here, to watch a live broadcast.


Internet e-sports like Starcraft2 have big-name pro players, announcers who broadcast matches, and millions of fans who'd rather watch the action online or in bars than play themselves. WSJ's Amir Efrati reports.

Half the flat-screen TVs were tuned to a blood-filled match between two Korean competitors, "MC" and "Puma." The crowd erupted in chants of "M-C! M-C!" when the favorite started a comeback...

Read the WSJ article in full at http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904070604576516462736084234.html?KEYWORDS=starcraft

[image loading]


Shameless plug to remind you to visit your local BarCraft scene to watch MLG Raleigh.
[image loading]



"Mad Dog in the Fog, a British sports bar"

That sounds awfully american for an English Pub...


Check out the video, you can see it looks like a typical pub in Britain.

ESPORTS!!!



I watched video and omg

He pronounces Puma, Poo-Ma...

Its Pew-Ma man..
youtube.com/f1337
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 23 2011 16:08 GMT
#51
Actually not a bad article, wayyyyyy less disparaging than some of the shit on Kotaku. And I like the angle they took that bar owners are using this as a way to fill the bar on normally slow days, I think that's a great pitch to make for expanding the number of places where we can go tobe watching esports in public.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
August 23 2011 16:11 GMT
#52
For those that don't get the print version, this was actually on the bottom half of the front page, which is a pretty big deal. They used the DT picture in the print version too, probably because it doesn't have color.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
August 23 2011 16:22 GMT
#53
lol I love this at the end:

The appeal is lost on some patrons. During a Barcraft in July at Public Tenley, a Washington, D.C., sports bar where seat cushions are made from the same leather used in basketballs and footballs, manager Deric Ortiz said he changed one of 26 monitors to a baseball game after a customer pleaded with him to switch the screen near him to show "anything but this videogame."



FAIL DC, FAIL !
archangel2
Profile Joined March 2011
76 Posts
August 23 2011 16:31 GMT
#54
On August 23 2011 23:27 Aoi_10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 21:44 mechavoc wrote:
This is great, I work in investments and have talked about SC2 with co-works who like tomock my game playing. I feel like the WSJ article is some vindication.


I'm a biglaw securities litigator who feels your pain. After [Market] Hours Gaming League? Donation to be made in honor of winner to fund for Madoff victims?


You should talk to the trading folks in your bank. Sc2, poker, and beer are pretty big after-hour activities, from what I've heard from my friends in the industry.
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
August 23 2011 16:40 GMT
#55
Man, that article has me stoked as hell for Barcraft this weekend. Hopefully the hurricane doesn't destroy the stream, and we get a good turnout out in Beaverton.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
Rajay
Profile Joined May 2010
United States30 Posts
August 23 2011 16:44 GMT
#56
This is so awesome a friend just told me about a Barcraft event this weekend in Chicago, and now after reading this article it sounds I am so stoked!
whoopingchow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 16:56:58
August 23 2011 16:53 GMT
#57
Their "portrait" of the dark templar looks way more fantastical than it actually is....XD

Also, I think the quotes around "Starcraft 2" is just journalistic consistency...if you look at their reviews of CD's, restaurants, galleries, theatre shows, etc, they do that too.

Also, some of the comments following the article are just....>.<
archangel2
Profile Joined March 2011
76 Posts
August 23 2011 17:05 GMT
#58
On August 24 2011 01:53 whoopingchow wrote:
Also, some of the comments following the article are just....>.<


To be fair, they're way more mild and civil than comments on IGN etc.

A part of that though is that I think most WSJ readers aren't interested enough in the article to comment.
tarpshack
Profile Joined February 2011
United States6 Posts
August 23 2011 17:19 GMT
#59
On August 23 2011 17:08 Lucid971 wrote:
Looking at that map makes me sad the Ohio Valley area is completely left out


This.

So true. It actually surprises me.
Aoi_10
Profile Joined October 2010
United States155 Posts
August 23 2011 17:24 GMT
#60
On August 24 2011 01:31 archangel2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 23:27 Aoi_10 wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:44 mechavoc wrote:
This is great, I work in investments and have talked about SC2 with co-works who like tomock my game playing. I feel like the WSJ article is some vindication.


I'm a biglaw securities litigator who feels your pain. After [Market] Hours Gaming League? Donation to be made in honor of winner to fund for Madoff victims?


You should talk to the trading folks in your bank. Sc2, poker, and beer are pretty big after-hour activities, from what I've heard from my friends in the industry.


Sadly, I work at a law firm, not a bank, and I think we're a squarer bunch on the whole. I actually posted a message on the firm's mostly-ignored intranet message board, and a whopping one person (from the help desk) responded.
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
August 23 2011 17:27 GMT
#61
On August 24 2011 01:53 whoopingchow wrote:

Also, some of the comments following the article are just....>.<


I just read the comments, most were pretty supportive. I really didn't see anything bad there? You had your obvious "Oh something I don't like or understand, let me bash on it" people, but there were like...two. The rest of the comments were really positive.
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Faveokatro
Profile Joined August 2010
80 Posts
August 23 2011 18:19 GMT
#62
The article just hit front page WSJ, in the top 5.
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
August 23 2011 18:40 GMT
#63
On August 24 2011 03:19 Faveokatro wrote:
The article just hit front page WSJ, in the top 5.

#4 baby! TL/reddit bringing in the views lol
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
August 23 2011 18:41 GMT
#64
I thought the article was really great, and it wasn't necessarily bad that they reflected some bar regulars being a bit discontent with the new ESPORTS business. Overall it painted a pretty awesome pictures of the scene. We should give more attention/discuss these articles!
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 23 2011 18:53 GMT
#65
that video was pretty slick too.
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
August 23 2011 18:57 GMT
#66
wow, front page online and on the actual paper, very impressive.
Faveokatro
Profile Joined August 2010
80 Posts
August 23 2011 19:12 GMT
#67
#3 now! We should drive this into #1 and keep it there for at least a day.
POiNTx
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 19:25:04
August 23 2011 19:22 GMT
#68
I really love reading the comments of these articles because they reflect how the average person views eSports.

I came across this comment: "I think this is a great idea. In fact, I've wondered for years why no one has done this. I am an avid online gamer and it's actually a lot of fun to watch the pros play these games. Their skill levels are breathtaking. A lot of people watch football or baseball or other sports because they have played themselves and love and understand the games. This is the same thing. I know there's a market for it. Not sure how huge or sustainable over time it would be, but it's definitely there. BTW, I'm 62 and female. I won't personally be at the bar (I don't go to bars) but I'm sure there are other, younger women who would go. Heck, they play online games a lot. I know a ton of them."

That's amazing.
Fuck yeah serotonin
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
August 23 2011 19:25 GMT
#69
Wow, those comments were... pretty damn reasonable.

There were only one or two flamingly stupid comments. The rest of them were either supportive or tolerant. I'm impressed.

For an article on ESPORTS on the comments section of a paper owned by Murdoch, that's pretty good.
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3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
August 23 2011 19:39 GMT
#70
Man are there Barcrafts in Europe? I only know about Homestorycup III in the Irish Pub down at TaKes apartment.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 23 2011 19:51 GMT
#71
Amir is a boss.
RancidTurnip
Profile Joined August 2010
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 20:02:20
August 23 2011 20:02 GMT
#72
On August 23 2011 17:08 Lucid971 wrote:
Looking at that map makes me sad the Ohio Valley area is completely left out


At least your state is on the map...
evaunit01
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States512 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 20:22:45
August 23 2011 20:11 GMT
#73
ESPORTS! It is now up to #3!
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chunkylimes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada25 Posts
August 23 2011 20:51 GMT
#74
When we held a Kitchener-Waterloo barcraft, there were some old guys in the bar (and the owner) who knew nothing about SC2 but started getting pretty into it once people began explaining what was happening (and stuff like the XelNaga Towers). It was really cool to see.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#75
Many parties are making last pushes for LA, SF, Austin, etc. I wish them best of luck, and god speed!
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Aoi_10
Profile Joined October 2010
United States155 Posts
August 23 2011 23:24 GMT
#76
On August 24 2011 08:19 Primadog wrote:
Many parties are making last pushes for LA, SF, Austin, etc. I wish them best of luck, and god speed!


Where in SF? And will you update your other post if it happens?
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 23 2011 23:25 GMT
#77
Most definitely
Thank God and gunrun.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
August 23 2011 23:26 GMT
#78
This is awesome news for Starcraft, eSports and bars who plan on organizing BarCrafts. All thanks to day9 :p
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dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
August 23 2011 23:26 GMT
#79
Cool Too bad the article mentions Zerg vs Protoss when it's about MC vs Puma, but they are forgiven.
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
August 23 2011 23:32 GMT
#80
the last paragraph made me chuckle. "please, stop showing this video game!"

NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
August 23 2011 23:33 GMT
#81
TL needs to front page this naow :p
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Endercatbus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States14 Posts
August 23 2011 23:52 GMT
#82
I'm just disappointed Mad Dog in the Fog isn't doing a repeat for MLG this weekend. Seems like with all this publicity it'd be a prime situation to do a second event. Especially with the focus of the article being on San Francisco, but not a single BarCraft event in the entire bay area is on the schedule...

I live a couple blocks from Mad Dog, and would certainly make my way there Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

SF people: how did we drop the ball for the upcoming MLG? and, can we make it happen in the next 3 days?

Who has bartender friends?
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Aoi_10
Profile Joined October 2010
United States155 Posts
August 24 2011 00:53 GMT
#83
On August 24 2011 08:52 Endercatbus wrote:
I'm just disappointed Mad Dog in the Fog isn't doing a repeat for MLG this weekend. Seems like with all this publicity it'd be a prime situation to do a second event. Especially with the focus of the article being on San Francisco, but not a single BarCraft event in the entire bay area is on the schedule...

I live a couple blocks from Mad Dog, and would certainly make my way there Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

SF people: how did we drop the ball for the upcoming MLG? and, can we make it happen in the next 3 days?

Who has bartender friends?


No bartender friends, but I will be in the city on Friday and probably Sunday. *crosses fingers*
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
August 24 2011 01:40 GMT
#84
On August 23 2011 14:30 neobowman wrote:
They make it sound like Starcraft II's being broadcasted on TV in Korea =(.

Oh well, this is great coverage nonetheless.


Uh... it is?
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 01:44:53
August 24 2011 01:44 GMT
#85
Holy shit, I thought this was just an online story. It's on the front page of the fucking Wall Street Journal. That's fucking incredible.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
August 24 2011 01:45 GMT
#86
hahaha "a dark templer," i love wsj
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
FADCoUltra
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada73 Posts
August 24 2011 02:22 GMT
#87
This is pretty major publicity. Glad to see this and AHGL taking off. I hope more people get organized and form more company leagues. Anyone works for Cargill here?
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10340 Posts
August 24 2011 02:26 GMT
#88
OMG EPIC

also, because starcraft is a title/game, the quotes are appropriate, just like other works like books and etc

anyways, i think its funny they even put a picture (DT) in tehre xD

Also, whats with the geeks beating jocks part? when did that happen? or are they just over dramatizing the situation, that the bar was watching esports instead of other sports (which is a given since it's a starcraft bar)
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
August 24 2011 03:48 GMT
#89
I almost had a stroke when I saw a dark templar on the front page today.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 24 2011 04:01 GMT
#90
Yeah, I actually read this article online recently. Awesome!
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 19:56:14
August 25 2011 19:52 GMT
#91
BarCraft on WSJ This Morning


WSJ This Morning is a radio show produced by the Wall Street Journal. Host Gordon Deal interviews WSJ journalist Amir Efrati about this new eSports phenomon as a follow-up to the front page BarCraft piece.

The Wall Street Journal This Morning Aug. 23, 2011
08-23-2011 - Col. Moammar Gadhafi strikes back at rebel forces, what the taking of Tripoli could mean for other Mid East nations and the geeks that are taking over sports bars.


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Download the podcast here

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Conquerer67
Profile Joined May 2011
United States605 Posts
August 26 2011 04:47 GMT
#92
Ironically, people still insist that e-sports will never catch on in America.

It's on the front page of the wsj, everything that goes on there means something. To someone. Eventually.
I hate when people compare SC2 and rochambeu. One race isn't fucking supposed to counter another one. | Protoss isn't OP. Their units on the other hand....
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 05:45:59
August 28 2011 05:44 GMT
#93
So i herd about, and read this article earlier this week. My reaction was quite happy that Sc2 and Barcraft was getting some recognition in a very popular, and different form of media. Did't think much more of it than that.

Anyway my Dad had been on a business trip, for a few days came down to my room to ask what i wanted to do for dinner, when he saw me watching MLG. He had seen me playing Sc2, and watching GSL plenty of times before, always disregarded it as a waste of time.

Though this time he asked "What game is that again?". "Its Starcraft 2." I responded. Then he proceeded to tell me that he had read about it in the Wall Street Journal. I told him that i knew of the article, and we had a few words about Barcraft its self.

Then my dad actually stayed their and finished the game I was in the middle of, watching with actual intent. The game was Idra vs Nobeless game 1. Given he had started in the middle of the game i tried to give back ground on to what each player was trying to accomplish, and who was winning, while being careful to not be overly wordy or excessive with my analysis.

Once the game was over they showed a shot of Idra in the booth. My dad asked "Who's that?". I responded with "Idra the guy who just won, he played the red biological units." Then added, "You know,.. that guy grew up in Kalamazoo (my family lives in Michigan). My dad left with a few words as we had to get ready for dinner. (luckily before games 2 and 3)

Im not saying, that my Dad is now a fan of Starcraft 2, or even respects it. Though i do think this was the first time he viewed Starcraft as something that people play / watch. Not just a small activity that his son, spent majority of his free time watching and playing alone. Though that there's good amount of people in the world that actually care about this game. Would be kinda like an American watching Soccer for the first time, they may not like it, or respect it, they simply recognize that many other people do.

Without a doubt, the slight change of view, can be attributed to Sc2 getting a mention in his world of business.
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 20:57:36
August 31 2011 20:38 GMT
#94
That's a heart-warming story, Cyanocyst. Stuff like this make all the grunt-work worthwhile. =)
Thank God and gunrun.
o_oskar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States14 Posts
August 31 2011 20:45 GMT
#95
That is a great story Cyanocyst. I just wanted to watch StarCraft in a bar. I had no idea it would explode like this. I am even more amazed at the legitimacy this gives eSports in general. ^_^ Getting on the front page of the WSJ was more than I could have ever imagined.

o_Oskar
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 31 2011 20:47 GMT
#96
You told me about this WSJ piece like a months ago. It's hardly a surprise for you :p
Thank God and gunrun.
o_oskar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States14 Posts
August 31 2011 20:55 GMT
#97
the article wasn't a surprise, but getting on the front page was. :-)
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
August 31 2011 21:08 GMT
#98
fun little article, im surprised that the comments on the online article were not that pejorative, people were more curious than fuirous
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
August 31 2011 21:10 GMT
#99
wow - frontpage of the WSJ is pretty impressive.
keep it deep! @zulison
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 21:19:16
August 31 2011 21:18 GMT
#100
On August 23 2011 17:52 akaname wrote:
i love how "Starcraft" is always put in quote marks in the article. that's like the one slight at the game in an otherwise respectful article.


It's always put in quotations because that's the grammatically correct way to refer to the title of a major work.

Or is it italics for a major work and quotes for a minor title? I need to work on my English
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
September 01 2011 09:59 GMT
#101
i wonder how its gonna do once football season comes around. my guess is the bars make more money drawing people in with nfl direct ticket.
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