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esre
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland109 Posts
January 31 2012 00:39 GMT
#1361
Moletrap doesn't to have good game knowledge , he kinda states whats on the screen . . . be handy for radio I guess just not live/vods.

Wish Doa was back , I didn't like him at first but he's really improved I think.
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show. -Idra"
Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
January 31 2012 01:17 GMT
#1362
On January 31 2012 09:39 esre wrote:
Moletrap doesn't to have good game knowledge , he kinda states whats on the screen . . . be handy for radio I guess just not live/vods.

Wish Doa was back , I didn't like him at first but he's really improved I think.


Yes! I actually loved Doa by the time he was wrapping his time at the GSL up. I didn't like him initially and I'm not entirely sure if he improved that much or just grew on me but by the time he left I loved his "nerdy" style. He acted like even more of a nerd than most people in SC2 but it was awesome lol. I think Doa and Khaldor would be a great Code A duo.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2975 Posts
January 31 2012 01:21 GMT
#1363
On January 31 2012 09:33 HorsemasterK wrote:
I don't wanna jump on the bandwagon, but he is the reason I stopped watching Code A last season and when I tuned into the GSTL and heard him talking over Khaldor in his solo-cast style, I decided to go to bed instead.


It's no bandwagon, it's an opinion train, and one gaining a bit of momentum as seen in past several pages in this thread. Many people are turned off by his casting due many different factors. The day Wolf or Khaldor aren't on to co-cast and Moletrap is left to solocast a GSL Code A or GSTL event alone (won't happen, or very unlikely), is the day I and I feel others will pity GSL.

I doubt anyone here has any bad things to say about Moletrap personally, I don't. It's just in terms of his ability as a professional caster, he's quite disappointing. Honestly I hope he reads these criticisms and takes them to heart as motivation to improve. Brushing up on his game knowledge and maybe not yelling at certain times make a big difference.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
January 31 2012 01:35 GMT
#1364
On January 31 2012 10:17 Achaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 09:39 esre wrote:
Moletrap doesn't to have good game knowledge , he kinda states whats on the screen . . . be handy for radio I guess just not live/vods.

Wish Doa was back , I didn't like him at first but he's really improved I think.


Yes! I actually loved Doa by the time he was wrapping his time at the GSL up. I didn't like him initially and I'm not entirely sure if he improved that much or just grew on me but by the time he left I loved his "nerdy" style. He acted like even more of a nerd than most people in SC2 but it was awesome lol. I think Doa and Khaldor would be a great Code A duo.


I don't understand how people rate DoA at all. Code A should just be Wolf (Analysis) and Khaldor (play by play). They are the only decent casters that they have had doing Code A at all. DoA and Moletrap both have their own weaknesses, albeit DoA has less. They both have limited game knowledge and speak so authoritatively about subjects they're often wrong about. It's as if Moletrap doesn't watch other tournaments when he speaks about player history sometimes, and DoA's style is actually quite condescending to the viewer with his false authoritative tone. Not everyone can be Artosis, Wolf is doing a good job at being the number 2 Artosis. Other commentators should stick to just calling play-by-play if they aren't capable of understanding the game, and putting in the hours at watching enough pro games to understand the shifting metagame.
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llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
January 31 2012 01:56 GMT
#1365
On January 31 2012 09:39 esre wrote:
Moletrap doesn't to have good game knowledge , he kinda states whats on the screen . . . be handy for radio I guess just not live/vods.

Wish Doa was back , I didn't like him at first but he's really improved I think.

Yeah seriously. The thing I love about Tastosis is that they have good jokes AND artosis is there to go indepth and make sure the viewer knows whats going to happen.
People like JP and Moletrap have no idea whats going on, simply because they arent good. This is also why pros are good casters, because they knows what is happening. IdrA casted a few games, he is one of the best casters I have heard because he go so indepth with the game. Something that moletrap doesnt do.
Seems I have to watch the whole GOMTV season with mute on. Sucks for me. If you actually enjoy his irritating voice and short-sighted depth with the game, then congratulations. Your wish came true.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
suspiciousbear
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada112 Posts
January 31 2012 02:07 GMT
#1366
On January 31 2012 10:56 Lebzetu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 09:39 esre wrote:
Moletrap doesn't to have good game knowledge , he kinda states whats on the screen . . . be handy for radio I guess just not live/vods.

Wish Doa was back , I didn't like him at first but he's really improved I think.

Yeah seriously. The thing I love about Tastosis is that they have good jokes AND artosis is there to go indepth and make sure the viewer knows whats going to happen.
People like JP and Moletrap have no idea whats going on, simply because they arent good. This is also why pros are good casters, because they knows what is happening. IdrA casted a few games, he is one of the best casters I have heard because he go so indepth with the game. Something that moletrap doesnt do.
Seems I have to watch the whole GOMTV season with mute on. Sucks for me. If you actually enjoy his irritating voice and short-sighted depth with the game, then congratulations. Your wish came true.


JP is Masters random, Moletrap is platinum. That's a huge difference. I don't like JP as a caster, but I can't say it's because he sucks at the game.

Moletrap doesn't have a voice for broadcasting, he doesn't have knowledge for analysis. He doesn't have the humor and charm for color. I don't like anything about the way he casts. I don't watch anything he produces. There's enough SC2 for me to digest that I don't need to take what I can, I make choices regarding what I feel is worth watching, and although I care and pay attention to GSTL/Code A results, I will not watch if he's casting, he hurts my ears with his voice, and my brain with his words.
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
January 31 2012 02:11 GMT
#1367
On January 31 2012 11:07 suspiciousbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 10:56 Lebzetu wrote:
On January 31 2012 09:39 esre wrote:
Moletrap doesn't to have good game knowledge , he kinda states whats on the screen . . . be handy for radio I guess just not live/vods.

Wish Doa was back , I didn't like him at first but he's really improved I think.

Yeah seriously. The thing I love about Tastosis is that they have good jokes AND artosis is there to go indepth and make sure the viewer knows whats going to happen.
People like JP and Moletrap have no idea whats going on, simply because they arent good. This is also why pros are good casters, because they knows what is happening. IdrA casted a few games, he is one of the best casters I have heard because he go so indepth with the game. Something that moletrap doesnt do.
Seems I have to watch the whole GOMTV season with mute on. Sucks for me. If you actually enjoy his irritating voice and short-sighted depth with the game, then congratulations. Your wish came true.


JP is Masters random, Moletrap is platinum. That's a huge difference. I don't like JP as a caster, but I can't say it's because he sucks at the game.

Moletrap doesn't have a voice for broadcasting, he doesn't have knowledge for analysis. He doesn't have the humor and charm for color. I don't like anything about the way he casts. I don't watch anything he produces. There's enough SC2 for me to digest that I don't need to take what I can, I make choices regarding what I feel is worth watching, and although I care and pay attention to GSTL/Code A results, I will not watch if he's casting, he hurts my ears with his voice, and my brain with his words.

JP is masters random, but he doesnt play a lot of games IIRC. He only has like 20 games played this season (again, IIRC)

And yeah, Moletrap is especially annoying. I remember watching Brown vs Losira and he seriously had a fucking orgasm when he saw carriers coming out.
It's NOT a big deal, carrers are STANDARD in the late late game of PvZ.
(Maybe not standard, but they are used quite a bit)
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Lawliet
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
January 31 2012 04:23 GMT
#1368
I finally saw moletrap cast.... This guy is terrible! If he was a casual streamer I would have no beef but he's going to be getting paid for this????

He gotten map names wrong, he never talks about builds, he never has anything insightful to say, he knows nothing about Korean trends or metagames, and finally he constantly talks down about players.

It's a total contrast to the korean casters who can instantly start talking about builds and rivalries minute 9th worker is cued.

Also wtf on the post game interviews? I hope that's not him translating because almost everything that was translated was wrong....
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
January 31 2012 04:25 GMT
#1369
I like him and his casting, partly because of Brood War. His casting is not BAD...
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Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
January 31 2012 04:26 GMT
#1370
I still wonder why GOM still keeps moletrap when he is so bad in such a obvious way

Rubber
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
January 31 2012 04:29 GMT
#1371
I don't know why the hell you guys keep thinking this is a "bash Moletrap" thread and keep bumping it as such. It's not. If you'd like to talk about how much you don't like Moletrap's casting, I would suggest writing a blog post.
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dekarp
Profile Joined December 2011
286 Posts
January 31 2012 04:35 GMT
#1372
Tasteless lacks game knowledge too and piggy backs on Artosis for insight, I'd venture to say that his in-game analysis is about as good as Moletrap's.

With that said, Tasteless is 10x funnier than Moletrap, has a less annoying voice, and is way more charismatic than Moletrap. Even if Moletrap sat down and played SC2 everyday for multiple hours, actually did some player research, and watched VODs, there are still too many issues. Please don't let Moletrap cast today's awesome Code A games GOMTV, thank you.
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kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
January 31 2012 07:40 GMT
#1373
On January 31 2012 11:07 suspiciousbear wrote:
JP is Masters random, Moletrap is platinum. That's a huge difference. I don't like JP as a caster, but I can't say it's because he sucks at the game.


well jp is way too shy or unsure to be a good caster.
you need to have some kind of balls to be a good one.
and if moletrap is plat on korea and jp masters on us, that's basically the same.

MagmaRam
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
January 31 2012 09:06 GMT
#1374
On January 31 2012 16:40 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 11:07 suspiciousbear wrote:
JP is Masters random, Moletrap is platinum. That's a huge difference. I don't like JP as a caster, but I can't say it's because he sucks at the game.


well jp is way too shy or unsure to be a good caster.
you need to have some kind of balls to be a good one.
and if moletrap is plat on korea and jp masters on us, that's basically the same.



You do realize the leagues on most servers are about the same until you get into the masters and above range? Plat in KR would be maybe low diamond on US, if not just plat.
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
January 31 2012 09:15 GMT
#1375
On January 31 2012 10:17 Achaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 09:39 esre wrote:
Moletrap doesn't to have good game knowledge , he kinda states whats on the screen . . . be handy for radio I guess just not live/vods.

Wish Doa was back , I didn't like him at first but he's really improved I think.


Yes! I actually loved Doa by the time he was wrapping his time at the GSL up. I didn't like him initially and I'm not entirely sure if he improved that much or just grew on me but by the time he left I loved his "nerdy" style. He acted like even more of a nerd than most people in SC2 but it was awesome lol. I think Doa and Khaldor would be a great Code A duo.


Doa-Wolf was pretty much second to Artosis in terms of charisma, chemistry and analysis.
Wolfdor is still well above bearable, but Moletrap-Khaldor are just not good.

Moletrap can be a fun caster when paired with the right 'analysis-type' casters.
YipMan
Profile Joined April 2011
372 Posts
January 31 2012 09:15 GMT
#1376
What does it matter guys, i totally dislike his voice, attitude and casting skills, and seeing him casting GSL right now makes me mute the stream. Poor Wolf lol....
I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream
bovineblitz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
January 31 2012 09:16 GMT
#1377
It led to me not purchasing GSTL this season... so... hopefully gom does something about it.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 31 2012 09:20 GMT
#1378
On January 31 2012 13:25 iSometric wrote:
I like him and his casting, partly because of Brood War. His casting is not BAD...

I agree, I don't get the general opinion at all.
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jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
January 31 2012 09:33 GMT
#1379
On January 31 2012 18:16 bovineblitz wrote:
It led to me not purchasing GSTL this season... so... hopefully gom does something about it.


Same exact thing for me, I hope the see this type of feedback and do something about it.
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
January 31 2012 10:13 GMT
#1380
Moletrap has been around since bw days, the problem is his brain does not comprehend video games.. some people "get it" and others don't. Moletrap plays Zerg and thinks that 1 baneling can kill another baneling, he doesn't understand that it takes 2 banelings to kill a baneling because banelings aren't light units. He might be an "ok commentator" for people who don't play the game, but for others who actually have average knowledge of the game, he is painful to listen to.
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