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6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
January 27 2012 20:28 GMT
#1261
Moletrap is all good, I think he has improved since he has been at gomtv. Same with Khaldor, sure they both have their faults... but so does every caster (well except Artosis maybe, but he is a boss)

I don't think Moletrap and Khaldor are a good casting team though. But still, as long as they continue to improve I feel it could work.
stuff & things
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9405 Posts
January 27 2012 20:29 GMT
#1262
To much negativity/positvity in this thread....
I think he is decent/average.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 27 2012 20:30 GMT
#1263
Moletrap's improved a lot over the last few months. His style grates on my ears occasionally but overall, not too bad.

You can see he's putting in effort to improve which should be commended.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
January 27 2012 20:31 GMT
#1264
Moletrap?

Should be renamed Trolltrap. DoA's streams where Moletrap was trolling his ass off were hilarious.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
The.Imperator
Profile Joined October 2010
138 Posts
January 27 2012 21:23 GMT
#1265
Unfortunately I have to agree with the general sentiment about Moletrap's casting. After all this time he is still one of the worst casters that there is in the sc2 community.

Now if he was just casting some online weekly cups or something like that, then I would perfectly fine with it. However this is the freaking GSL, most prestigious league/tournament there is in SC2 and where a lot people actually pay to watch it.

GSL has the best players, best production and Tastosis. Caster like Moletrap just doesn't belong there.
Liph
Profile Joined April 2011
United States151 Posts
January 27 2012 22:16 GMT
#1266
On January 28 2012 06:23 The.Imperator wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree with the general sentiment about Moletrap's casting. After all this time he is still one of the worst casters that there is in the sc2 community.

Now if he was just casting some online weekly cups or something like that, then I would perfectly fine with it. However this is the freaking GSL, most prestigious league/tournament there is in SC2 and where a lot people actually pay to watch it.

GSL has the best players, best production and Tastosis. Caster like Moletrap just doesn't belong there.


You hit the nail on the most influential point right there, in that the GSL is the biggest and most prestigious and lucrative tournament, so this amount of criticism and aim for perfection is absolutely warranted. When my friends shoutcast local tournaments, I don't insult them or say negative things, but the gsl is king and deserves the sharpest and most acrid performance review because it is expensive for a large population of viewers, and is the face of the highest level of competitive esports globally.

With all this in context, I just don't feel moletrap is cut out for this job, to no fault of his own, because he's obviously trying, but effort doesn't simply trump charisma and stage presence in the entertainment industry.
"You Miss 100% of the Shots You Don't Take - Wayne Gretsky" Michael Gary Scott
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
January 27 2012 22:18 GMT
#1267
I wish he would learn more about the game, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

best of luck to your moletrap
i love you
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
January 27 2012 22:19 GMT
#1268
On January 28 2012 06:23 The.Imperator wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree with the general sentiment about Moletrap's casting. After all this time he is still one of the worst casters that there is in the sc2 community.

Now if he was just casting some online weekly cups or something like that, then I would perfectly fine with it. However this is the freaking GSL, most prestigious league/tournament there is in SC2 and where a lot people actually pay to watch it.

GSL has the best players, best production and Tastosis. Caster like Moletrap just doesn't belong there.

Agreed. I love the guys passion for SC2 but casting should be competitive too. I don't think he'd be casting if there were a larger pool of english speaking casters in Korea. It's kind of proximity type problem.
Toastmold
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada207 Posts
January 27 2012 22:25 GMT
#1269
I just wish he would stop grunting/clearing his throat through out the entire cast. It's not pleasant.
hi.
dekarp
Profile Joined December 2011
286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 22:30:45
January 27 2012 22:27 GMT
#1270
I was going to flip in between SPL and GSTL today... but if Moletrap is casting... I'll leave it on CJ vs KT. I can not stand his voice, and his player knowledge, let alone game knowledge, is lacking hardcore.
https://dotabuff.com/players/110773298 divinereps on reddit.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
January 27 2012 22:41 GMT
#1271
I have no idea why people don't like him. I enjoy his casting a ton. I find its different from the standard caster we see. I'm sorry but it would get boring a lot of times without moletrap.

xlava
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States676 Posts
January 27 2012 22:47 GMT
#1272
On January 28 2012 06:23 The.Imperator wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree with the general sentiment about Moletrap's casting. After all this time he is still one of the worst casters that there is in the sc2 community.

Now if he was just casting some online weekly cups or something like that, then I would perfectly fine with it. However this is the freaking GSL, most prestigious league/tournament there is in SC2 and where a lot people actually pay to watch it.

GSL has the best players, best production and Tastosis. Caster like Moletrap just doesn't belong there.


Absolutely my sentiments as well.

I have no problem with pure love for the game, but I do have a problem when someone like Moletrap is casting a game that I'm paying to watch. I pay for the best: Tastetosis, and that's what I expect. Good casting makes the games twice as interesting, bad casting can be a detriment, and put me to sleep honestly...
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
January 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#1273
On January 28 2012 07:47 xlava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 06:23 The.Imperator wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree with the general sentiment about Moletrap's casting. After all this time he is still one of the worst casters that there is in the sc2 community.

Now if he was just casting some online weekly cups or something like that, then I would perfectly fine with it. However this is the freaking GSL, most prestigious league/tournament there is in SC2 and where a lot people actually pay to watch it.

GSL has the best players, best production and Tastosis. Caster like Moletrap just doesn't belong there.


Absolutely my sentiments as well.

I have no problem with pure love for the game, but I do have a problem when someone like Moletrap is casting a game that I'm paying to watch. I pay for the best: Tastetosis, and that's what I expect. Good casting makes the games twice as interesting, bad casting can be a detriment, and put me to sleep honestly...


Moletrap will get better as he goes. He was a great SC1 solo caster because of his knowledge and flow of casting. He doesn't seem to be very good with a partner but I'm guessing he is just inexperienced in that area.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
January 27 2012 23:26 GMT
#1274
I don't hate the guy... But I do NOT like his casting =/. He just doesn't work well with others and his game knowledge is extremely poor.
Teacher74
Profile Joined September 2010
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:36:03
January 27 2012 23:33 GMT
#1275
On January 28 2012 07:16 Liph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 06:23 The.Imperator wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree with the general sentiment about Moletrap's casting. After all this time he is still one of the worst casters that there is in the sc2 community.

Now if he was just casting some online weekly cups or something like that, then I would perfectly fine with it. However this is the freaking GSL, most prestigious league/tournament there is in SC2 and where a lot people actually pay to watch it.

GSL has the best players, best production and Tastosis. Caster like Moletrap just doesn't belong there.


You hit the nail on the most influential point right there, in that the GSL is the biggest and most prestigious and lucrative tournament, so this amount of criticism and aim for perfection is absolutely warranted. When my friends shoutcast local tournaments, I don't insult them or say negative things, but the gsl is king and deserves the sharpest and most acrid performance review because it is expensive for a large population of viewers, and is the face of the highest level of competitive esports globally.

With all this in context, I just don't feel moletrap is cut out for this job, to no fault of his own, because he's obviously trying, but effort doesn't simply trump charisma and stage presence in the entertainment industry.


Completely Agree.

He's a cool guy. He came to our school and casted our tournament. But when we're paying to watch Starcraft we demand the best. He is simply average or below average in the spectrum of casters.

He has low game knowledge, grating voice when he starts yelling, and has bad chemistry with co-casters.
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
January 27 2012 23:35 GMT
#1276
No problems with him personally, and i really dislike all the post stating "i hate moletrap" or claiming he is bad with no constructive criticism. You want him to get better? Your doing it wrong.

However, i feel he sometimes takes up too much space, interrupts fellow casters while tlaking about something that wasn't worth interrupting for. He's a fun guy, but he really need to work better with other casters. Also, i feel he needs to be coupled with some analytical caster, with indepth knowledge of the game, which clearly is Wolf to me. Khaldor is good, but he should also be coupled with someone like Wolf. The current setup, Khaldor and Moletrap is like having 2 Tasteless casting together, and even if they are fun to listen to, they need something to fill out.

Everyone loves Artosis/Tasteless, and thats because they are both really fun guys, but at the same time a really great team. Artosis knows this game inside out, and is very brilliant. Tasteless is really much fun and goofy, being able to talk about anything when it's needed, from stealing ladder points to talking about something totally unrelated while still keeping the viewers entertained.

Aslong as we have Tastosis casting for GomTV (may it be forever) every other duo will be compared to them, they are the standard of casting, and since we've seen them for 1½ year i think most viewers got picky and won't settle for less.

To sum it up: Moletrap needs to take less space, let his co-caster finish sentances, and be coupled with an analytical caster.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2971 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:39:15
January 27 2012 23:37 GMT
#1277
On January 28 2012 08:13 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 07:47 xlava wrote:
On January 28 2012 06:23 The.Imperator wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree with the general sentiment about Moletrap's casting. After all this time he is still one of the worst casters that there is in the sc2 community.

Now if he was just casting some online weekly cups or something like that, then I would perfectly fine with it. However this is the freaking GSL, most prestigious league/tournament there is in SC2 and where a lot people actually pay to watch it.

GSL has the best players, best production and Tastosis. Caster like Moletrap just doesn't belong there.


Absolutely my sentiments as well.

I have no problem with pure love for the game, but I do have a problem when someone like Moletrap is casting a game that I'm paying to watch. I pay for the best: Tastetosis, and that's what I expect. Good casting makes the games twice as interesting, bad casting can be a detriment, and put me to sleep honestly...


Moletrap will get better as he goes. He was a great SC1 solo caster because of his knowledge and flow of casting. He doesn't seem to be very good with a partner but I'm guessing he is just inexperienced in that area.


And how long will that take? He's been casting Code A and GSTL for several months if not longer now with another person whether it's Wolf, Doa, or Khaldor.

Fact of the matter is, I am disappointed people are making excuses for him. He is a professional caster casting for the biggest SC2 league there is and his knowledge for someone in his position is absolutely abysmal, it's not just a few cases that can be forgiven either. It's as if he really was unintentionally disrespecting some of the players by mixing up various facts or game knowledge regarding them. Let alone the yelling he does, passion is one thing, but just trying to break my headphones is another, I have to turn the volume down before going deaf. The other problem is that for as long as he has been casting, overall quality of his casting has gone down, one can blame it due to downtime, but I find that an inherent issue that needs to be addressed(if that were the case, Khaldor would be a crappy caster due to the downtime as well, but that's obviously not the case since he kept busy the past month or so before returning to Korea). Unless he shows some improvement, GOM should really consider trying to stick Wolf in more often in his place with Khaldor.

I wouldn't be surprised if people were to rank the current GSL english speaking casters, Moletrap is most likely far in the bottom out of all of them. Sure there will be fans of his work, or people who think the criticism to him especially at the moment is harsh. But you can't argue it's not justified after hearing him most especially after today's GSTL match. A certain standard must be held, and right now, he's not cutting it.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Popsicler
Profile Joined January 2012
United States40 Posts
January 27 2012 23:40 GMT
#1278
Not good news for me , really dont enjoy his casting. Having to mute it when he casts.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
January 27 2012 23:50 GMT
#1279
I'm sure he's a nice guy and I respect his passion, but his voice and game knowledge are unacceptable in my opinion. It's always a muted cast when he is working and that's unfortunate because I pay every season, expecting the best.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
January 27 2012 23:54 GMT
#1280
Moletrap is a very nice guy. I had the pleasure of knowing him before he got big and have met him in person.
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