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dde
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada796 Posts
January 27 2012 23:54 GMT
#1281
i enjoy his voice + casting (not always but still) go moletrap
yes
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 27 2012 23:58 GMT
#1282
in order of how much i wanted them to stay casting:
Wolf
Khaldor
Moletrap
Doa

in order of how good they look/would look in suits
Khaldor
Moletrap
Doa
Wolf

the second category is more important.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 00:15:36
January 28 2012 00:13 GMT
#1283
I don't mean to hate on the person like some others here, but I have to say that I find him to be really unpleasant to listen to, plus lackluster game & player knowledge does not help either. That doesn't mean I think he's a horrible caster, it's just that he is subpar quality-wise especially compared to veteran casters like Artosis and Tasteless, which may or may not be acceptable when it comes to a tournament as elite as the GSL/GSTL.
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
January 28 2012 02:19 GMT
#1284
I really didn't like his casting in the first season, but in the recent seasons he has improved a ton. I especially enjoy his solo code A casting. Sometimes I even like his casting more than tastosis (when they went on too long about random stuff). I do agree that he need to work on his game understading more but he's one of the caster that actually look up/trying to follow the korean scene closely (tatosis is not so good at this anymore since they travelling so much).
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3131 Posts
January 28 2012 05:43 GMT
#1285
On January 28 2012 11:19 therabit wrote:
I really didn't like his casting in the first season, but in the recent seasons he has improved a ton. I especially enjoy his solo code A casting. Sometimes I even like his casting more than tastosis (when they went on too long about random stuff). I do agree that he need to work on his game understading more but he's one of the caster that actually look up/trying to follow the korean scene closely (tatosis is not so good at this anymore since they travelling so much).


the fact that you like his casting more than tastosis means you don't respect good analytical commentary; the only reason to have someone commentate in the first place.
trickery
Profile Joined October 2011
United States37 Posts
January 28 2012 05:48 GMT
#1286
eh, I don't think moletrap is one of the worst caster but you think GOM would be able to find high quality caster. Personal taste I guess :/
"If you want peace, prepare for war" Sic transit gloria mundi
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
January 28 2012 06:08 GMT
#1287
I can't say I share the sentiments of others here as strongly, though to a degree I do see where they are coming from.

For me personally, Moletrap is all right. He certainly doesn't prevent me from watching GS(T)L. I will say though that i liked wolf, doa, and khaldor more.

If i had to just offer one criticism to him it's mostly his game knowledge. It's not awful, just not up to par with his co-casters which makes him look worse. Goodluck to him though. Hopefully he finds his niche and can improve as a caster.
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
January 28 2012 06:10 GMT
#1288
On January 28 2012 14:43 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 11:19 therabit wrote:
I really didn't like his casting in the first season, but in the recent seasons he has improved a ton. I especially enjoy his solo code A casting. Sometimes I even like his casting more than tastosis (when they went on too long about random stuff). I do agree that he need to work on his game understading more but he's one of the caster that actually look up/trying to follow the korean scene closely (tatosis is not so good at this anymore since they travelling so much).


the fact that you like his casting more than tastosis means you don't respect good analytical commentary; the only reason to have someone commentate in the first place.

Uh... I don't know, dude. I wouldn't say that Moletrap > Artosis for analytical commentary.

Never really thought that Moletrap's commentary was that high in quality. And I've listened to him starting WAY back in the day. Still distinctly remember his commentary for JulyZerg vs Sea on Loki 2.
wat.
tDKyou
Profile Joined September 2011
United States202 Posts
January 28 2012 06:12 GMT
#1289
OMG.... Pro lol
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5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
January 28 2012 06:22 GMT
#1290
I actually followed moletrap's casting ever since the earliesh broodwar days, when he used to cast with the good old klazart. He has grown a lot as a caster. I remmeber back then his game knowledge was pretty poor at times. Klazart being the expert he is would be able to tell each player's strategy just based on their openings, without having to see their tech buildings, while moletrap would kind of comment as the game progresses. For example if protoss player is obviously making lots of goons, he would just say 'oh bisu is just massing dragoons. etc', and there was little in terms of analysis. Gradually he began casting games alone as his knowledge of the builds grow, and I began to like his casting. He improved more and more and was able to go into each player's game plan, builds, and motives, not just talking about what he sees on the map at the time. I actually like his voice, simply because he says things clearly, and with a good deal of emotions/ humour. It is based on this bw experience of moletrap that i began soughting out his casting in sc2.The only thing I found awkward when i actually saw him on gomtv's casting crew in person was just how short he was, which went against my imagined impression of him.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
January 28 2012 06:31 GMT
#1291
Thank goodness I bought premium+ tickets so I can watch the korean VODs whenever Moletrap is casting. Nothing against him personally, I just can't stand his lack of knowledge and general casting style.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
January 28 2012 07:21 GMT
#1292
On January 28 2012 08:37 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:13 willoc wrote:
On January 28 2012 07:47 xlava wrote:
On January 28 2012 06:23 The.Imperator wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree with the general sentiment about Moletrap's casting. After all this time he is still one of the worst casters that there is in the sc2 community.

Now if he was just casting some online weekly cups or something like that, then I would perfectly fine with it. However this is the freaking GSL, most prestigious league/tournament there is in SC2 and where a lot people actually pay to watch it.

GSL has the best players, best production and Tastosis. Caster like Moletrap just doesn't belong there.


Absolutely my sentiments as well.

I have no problem with pure love for the game, but I do have a problem when someone like Moletrap is casting a game that I'm paying to watch. I pay for the best: Tastetosis, and that's what I expect. Good casting makes the games twice as interesting, bad casting can be a detriment, and put me to sleep honestly...


Moletrap will get better as he goes. He was a great SC1 solo caster because of his knowledge and flow of casting. He doesn't seem to be very good with a partner but I'm guessing he is just inexperienced in that area.


And how long will that take? He's been casting Code A and GSTL for several months if not longer now with another person whether it's Wolf, Doa, or Khaldor.

Fact of the matter is, I am disappointed people are making excuses for him. He is a professional caster casting for the biggest SC2 league there is and his knowledge for someone in his position is absolutely abysmal, it's not just a few cases that can be forgiven either. It's as if he really was unintentionally disrespecting some of the players by mixing up various facts or game knowledge regarding them. Let alone the yelling he does, passion is one thing, but just trying to break my headphones is another, I have to turn the volume down before going deaf. The other problem is that for as long as he has been casting, overall quality of his casting has gone down, one can blame it due to downtime, but I find that an inherent issue that needs to be addressed(if that were the case, Khaldor would be a crappy caster due to the downtime as well, but that's obviously not the case since he kept busy the past month or so before returning to Korea). Unless he shows some improvement, GOM should really consider trying to stick Wolf in more often in his place with Khaldor.

I wouldn't be surprised if people were to rank the current GSL english speaking casters, Moletrap is most likely far in the bottom out of all of them. Sure there will be fans of his work, or people who think the criticism to him especially at the moment is harsh. But you can't argue it's not justified after hearing him most especially after today's GSTL match. A certain standard must be held, and right now, he's not cutting it.


It will take as long as it takes. I think he's gotten better for sure since he started. He used to give off this vibe that he was annoyed or hated his fellow caster but he doesn't seem to give it off anymore. Seems more professional. He has the potential to have lots of SC2 knowledge. Seems as if GOM might see this in him as well.

On another note, Wolf is just an exceptional caster. I believe he has less experience than the other casters but he is great and will become only better. Very sociable, charismatic and knowledgeable guy.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 28 2012 07:23 GMT
#1293
On January 28 2012 15:22 5unrise wrote:
I actually followed moletrap's casting ever since the earliesh broodwar days, when he used to cast with the good old klazart. He has grown a lot as a caster. I remmeber back then his game knowledge was pretty poor at times. Klazart being the expert he is would be able to tell each player's strategy just based on their openings, without having to see their tech buildings, while moletrap would kind of comment as the game progresses. For example if protoss player is obviously making lots of goons, he would just say 'oh bisu is just massing dragoons. etc', and there was little in terms of analysis. Gradually he began casting games alone as his knowledge of the builds grow, and I began to like his casting. He improved more and more and was able to go into each player's game plan, builds, and motives, not just talking about what he sees on the map at the time. I actually like his voice, simply because he says things clearly, and with a good deal of emotions/ humour. It is based on this bw experience of moletrap that i began soughting out his casting in sc2.The only thing I found awkward when i actually saw him on gomtv's casting crew in person was just how short he was, which went against my imagined impression of him.


I am pretty sure that was NOT the case.
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DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
January 28 2012 07:44 GMT
#1294
I really like MolDor... I hope that I'm not the only one. They have alot of energy, and while they aren't the smartest, I am very entertained watching them cast.
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
January 28 2012 07:54 GMT
#1295
I think the biggest problem is the Khaldor/Moletrap combination, one of them with Wolf is good/okay, but they aren't a good duo due to both being play by play casters and medicore chemistry :/ I hope Gom gets another analytical caster so we always have at least one caster who knows the game well :|
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
January 28 2012 08:31 GMT
#1296
Gives me a good reason to utilize the Korean voice option aside from language dictation practice.
reptile
Profile Joined July 2010
United States210 Posts
January 28 2012 08:48 GMT
#1297
On January 28 2012 17:31 TheRPGAddict wrote:
Gives me a good reason to utilize the Korean voice option aside from language dictation practice.

I can't express my jealousy enough...
"When the game is over, the King and the Pawn go back in the same box."
FastEddieV
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States614 Posts
January 28 2012 09:01 GMT
#1298
The two of them today showed a pretty mediocre cast. Calling NaDa as stc, EMPs being called nukes, enthusiasm/yelling at the strangest times... I really appreciate that they are there to do the casts, and I have been a follower of moletrap in the past when English SCBW commentary was just getting going, but it just felt sloppy. I'm sure they'll do better next cast.

Not everyone can be part of a casting archon like tastosis
platinum? more like leaf
setmeal
Profile Joined March 2011
162 Posts
January 28 2012 09:03 GMT
#1299
Moletrap has improved significantly. I would like to see him do a Artosis Moletrap casting duo. That would be seriously kick ass.
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
January 28 2012 09:06 GMT
#1300
On January 28 2012 14:48 trickery wrote:
eh, I don't think moletrap is one of the worst caster but you think GOM would be able to find high quality caster. Personal taste I guess :/



There is an abundance of casters out there, but only so few that are willing to move to Korea.
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