On August 11 2011 18:29 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Thanks, now I know who I'm talking to. Someone who is stuck in the old ways of moletrap. Also as someone above me pointed out why moletrap is the one who talks the most, that's his part. Also If you dont pick up on how tasteless basically has to appologize to artosis for cutting him off, and does so more than twice almost every cast they do, then youre just hating on moletrap pure and simple seeing how you throw around "stats" left and right and harping on and on the same few points. Moletrap is improving his casts, you are not in your view of him.
edit: final word on this from me. Not gonna come back to this thread.
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On August 11 2011 18:16 XRaDiiX wrote:
This Statement In your post.
I hope your kidding especially the last paragraph.
"I actually pick up more on tastosis cutting each other off than I do moletrap + caster X these days."
Uhmmm.. Are you Kidding? He Does it Constantly; Mole Trap Constantly Cuts Wolf Off.
He is talking for about 80% of the Game as well. (Barely allowing Wolf to speak)
On August 11 2011 18:10 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
He does have some chemistry with wolf(finally) in todays cast. They were even laughing and joking together more than once. He does not talk over wolf 80% of the time(I get your point, you mean he does it alot) but he is improving here and is doing much better now. He even appologises when he cuts Wolf off. Wolf is also doing better in taking up air time and has begun to cut into moletrap(which I like personally, it sort of balances it out). I actually pick up more on tastosis cutting each other off than I do moletrap + caster X these days.
On August 11 2011 17:38 XRaDiiX wrote:
Mole Trap has improved a little bit from before.
But he still has absolutely no Chemistry with the other Caster. He Talks about 80% of the Time Over Wolf.
He says Like About 50 Times per Match. Its really annoying to listen to the drivel coming from Mole Trap.
He just isn't enjoyable to watch. Which i feel is hurting the GSL and the viewership experience.
From what is supposed to be a professional League. He needs to brush up on his chemistry; on working with the Co-Casters.
He does so many things Wrong Compared to the Other Casters makes awkward situations the Norm in every match by interrupting Trashing almost everything Wolf Says.
And talks over top of Wolf at the same time A lot.
Jason Lee was actually Funny and enjoyable to listen to.
Mole Trap has excitement when battles happens and that's probably the only good quality i can point out he brings to the Cast.
On August 11 2011 17:33 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
the personal attacks and the somewhat harsh tone (which I dont agree with) the point that FearTheReaperMan makes is more or less right on and I agree with. Moletrap has improved from when he last was on and is improving by the day. Today he and wolf got along pretty well and there was some chemistry and most of all moletrap didnt kill all his jokes. Seems like the hate/dislike for moletrap is more based on previous casts than what he has done this week.
On August 11 2011 17:25 FearTheReaperMan wrote:
You seriously are fucking retarded. You didnt just read one thing that guy stated, all u keep doing is blabbing on about the same thing youve stated over and over again. You are trying obviously a lonely idiot.
WTF are you saying ??? "Its one of those things you etiher really hate or like." ??? How the hell are you the one to judge that.. Personally I am in the middle of the road about, him, and I am being positive thinking that he will get better. So that proves your fucking statement totally fucking wrong.
On August 11 2011 17:17 XRaDiiX wrote:
There is no Overwhelming negative its just the Forsaken(Forbidden on TL.net) Truth.
Try watching his Casts. Its Unbearable.
Its one of those things you either really hate or Like. The Majority of the People on GOM.TV Do not want him Casting.
On August 11 2011 17:09 maliceee wrote:
People will complain about everything. There is no perfect caster. The people who are going to post are overwhelmingly negative because the people who like him are not going to make a huge deal about it.
This zombeeez guy is funny. if I was 12.
On August 11 2011 17:05 XRaDiiX wrote:
It doesn't matter if he casted BW .
He is awful to listen to as a Caster IMO. The Forums on GOM including this one are Rife with people who Do not want him Casting.
He does not Jive well with any Caster. He has an annoying Voice.
We just don't like Him Casting I'd prefer any Caster TBH instead of Mole Trap.
I personally Feel GomTv made a big mistake by hiring him. Theres a good post i'm gonna quote from the GOM Forum Explaining why he is not a good caster.
BW Caster or not.
He Should not be a Caster in the GSL.
Here's the Post that Explains it.
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?page=10&topicid=201732
Now Seriously He is Ruining a lot of peoples viewing Experiences. He just doesn't work well with any Caster.
If you actually read the Thread You'd see that.
Not everyone on TL.net here is a GOM Customer. Most of you just Blindly Support Mole Trap without having to listen to his god awful Casting.
On August 11 2011 16:56 NB wrote:
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to be honest, none of you have any right to declined ANYONE from sc2gg casting for gomtv. These are people with passion who went out midnight into their car, connect to the internet through a crappy mobile phone internet trying to cast BW to 200 people to watch. Back then BW community was small but we are passionate people.
Moletrap is a great caster in the past and he is a great caster in the present. He with a good knowledge of the BW scene can easily top out any pair of casting if he can find a right partner. Remember, he has been casting BW way way before artosis try his first cast and look at where artosis is today. People who didnt follow the BW didnt know but artosis and tasteless first sc2 cast was painful to watch when you compare it with all the content sc2gg released on BW in the past.
He is a great caster and gom understand that. Give him a chance. Haters gona hate.
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to be honest, none of you have any right to declined ANYONE from sc2gg casting for gomtv. These are people with passion who went out midnight into their car, connect to the internet through a crappy mobile phone internet trying to cast BW to 200 people to watch. Back then BW community was small but we are passionate people.
Moletrap is a great caster in the past and he is a great caster in the present. He with a good knowledge of the BW scene can easily top out any pair of casting if he can find a right partner. Remember, he has been casting BW way way before artosis try his first cast and look at where artosis is today. People who didnt follow the BW didnt know but artosis and tasteless first sc2 cast was painful to watch when you compare it with all the content sc2gg released on BW in the past.
He is a great caster and gom understand that. Give him a chance. Haters gona hate.
It doesn't matter if he casted BW .
He is awful to listen to as a Caster IMO. The Forums on GOM including this one are Rife with people who Do not want him Casting.
He does not Jive well with any Caster. He has an annoying Voice.
We just don't like Him Casting I'd prefer any Caster TBH instead of Mole Trap.
I personally Feel GomTv made a big mistake by hiring him. Theres a good post i'm gonna quote from the GOM Forum Explaining why he is not a good caster.
BW Caster or not.
He Should not be a Caster in the GSL.
Here's the Post that Explains it.
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?page=10&topicid=201732
I'm just at a loss on why moletrap is casting again. He really drains the fun, excitement & enjoyment of watching GSL I'll explain a bit more. I've owned every single gsl and gstl premium ticket and managed to watch every game done at gom for sc2 so I've seen every caster for quite a while even kelly etc.
Just watch yesterday and todays cast of code A He said "like" yesterday 97 times, and he's upto 53 today. He said like just then 13 times in the case of 1-2 minutes. This is a job where your voice, language, game knowledge and humour are all integral parts of making the cast good for paying customers and I feel moletrap brings none of the qualities required to be a good caster. I'll go into it a bit more indepth and this isn't meant to be offensive it's constructive critism towards him.
Language - He says "like" at least once a sentence casting is meant to be about portraying information and funny jokes to the audience and I feel as if this is being casted by a girl in highschool who cannot stop saying like, he cannot get his point across in a conciese and timely manner he is clogging the cast up with his lack of language skills. He really needs to spend time sorting his words out and stop talking like a teenage girl it is absolutely ridiculous that he talks how he does on a high production tv show which people are paying for and I can't understand why you would allow moletrap to cast when he actually takes away from the production value of the show and brings down the whole quality of the GSL.
Humour - I feel so bad for wolf because none of moletraps jokes are relevant or even funny anecdotes like other casters, he doesn't understand the demographic which is watching the show and what is considered funny, he also doesn't understand anyone elses humour and often corrects them or takes things seriously which were obviously a joke. He has no chemistry with other casters and this really affects how long someone can sit down and watch the gsl given that he makes non-funny jokes and destroys his co-casters attempt at being funny almost every single time.
Voice - his voice is very high pitched and very grating to listen to a long period of a cast.
Game knowledge - Moletrap doesn't understand the game at the depth of 'any' caster thats been on gomtv including kelly, he doesn't understand the current builds or what they are trying to accomplish. He honestly asked why is taeja at 2000 minerals when playing mech, and he has 50 gas then he wastes the viewers time by asking it as a legit question and is expecting an answer. He disagrees with wolf constantly when wolf is correct and moletrap is just wrong. Wolfs knowledge is that of a korea masters level and I feel moletrap hasn't even installed the game and that sounds like a dig but when he still uses starcraft 1 unit names this long after release it does make you wonder if he's even playing the game on a regular basis if at all.
Interupting co-casters - moletrap notorious for this and it is a massive issue, he doesn't respect his co-caters and always thinks what he has to say is more important. Interupting for important information is fine, but interupting to disagree is completely rude and should be unacceptable in this position.
I was so excited when doa came back to cast with wolf, they were starting to build some synergy and now you bring moletrap on and I can't really understand why, he takes away a lot of value for me personally and from the reaction on the forums, twitter, team liquid it takes away for a lot of people. I've bought every ticket and watched every game because it's been worth the money but if moletrap is employed as a regular caster I don't think the gsl is worth the same amount as your currently asking. I would pay an extra 10 dollars for every ticket if you didn't have moletrap casting that's how much I value good casters as they make the exceptional play from koreans, that much better. I don't even mind if the casters arn't enhancing the experience, the issue here is moletrap actually takes away value of your show and I worry about it.
I messaged him on twitter multiple times about some things he can do to improve but he didn't reply and from todays cast hasn't taken anything into consideration.
From a very worried GSL viewer.
Just watch yesterday and todays cast of code A He said "like" yesterday 97 times, and he's upto 53 today. He said like just then 13 times in the case of 1-2 minutes. This is a job where your voice, language, game knowledge and humour are all integral parts of making the cast good for paying customers and I feel moletrap brings none of the qualities required to be a good caster. I'll go into it a bit more indepth and this isn't meant to be offensive it's constructive critism towards him.
Language - He says "like" at least once a sentence casting is meant to be about portraying information and funny jokes to the audience and I feel as if this is being casted by a girl in highschool who cannot stop saying like, he cannot get his point across in a conciese and timely manner he is clogging the cast up with his lack of language skills. He really needs to spend time sorting his words out and stop talking like a teenage girl it is absolutely ridiculous that he talks how he does on a high production tv show which people are paying for and I can't understand why you would allow moletrap to cast when he actually takes away from the production value of the show and brings down the whole quality of the GSL.
Humour - I feel so bad for wolf because none of moletraps jokes are relevant or even funny anecdotes like other casters, he doesn't understand the demographic which is watching the show and what is considered funny, he also doesn't understand anyone elses humour and often corrects them or takes things seriously which were obviously a joke. He has no chemistry with other casters and this really affects how long someone can sit down and watch the gsl given that he makes non-funny jokes and destroys his co-casters attempt at being funny almost every single time.
Voice - his voice is very high pitched and very grating to listen to a long period of a cast.
Game knowledge - Moletrap doesn't understand the game at the depth of 'any' caster thats been on gomtv including kelly, he doesn't understand the current builds or what they are trying to accomplish. He honestly asked why is taeja at 2000 minerals when playing mech, and he has 50 gas then he wastes the viewers time by asking it as a legit question and is expecting an answer. He disagrees with wolf constantly when wolf is correct and moletrap is just wrong. Wolfs knowledge is that of a korea masters level and I feel moletrap hasn't even installed the game and that sounds like a dig but when he still uses starcraft 1 unit names this long after release it does make you wonder if he's even playing the game on a regular basis if at all.
Interupting co-casters - moletrap notorious for this and it is a massive issue, he doesn't respect his co-caters and always thinks what he has to say is more important. Interupting for important information is fine, but interupting to disagree is completely rude and should be unacceptable in this position.
I was so excited when doa came back to cast with wolf, they were starting to build some synergy and now you bring moletrap on and I can't really understand why, he takes away a lot of value for me personally and from the reaction on the forums, twitter, team liquid it takes away for a lot of people. I've bought every ticket and watched every game because it's been worth the money but if moletrap is employed as a regular caster I don't think the gsl is worth the same amount as your currently asking. I would pay an extra 10 dollars for every ticket if you didn't have moletrap casting that's how much I value good casters as they make the exceptional play from koreans, that much better. I don't even mind if the casters arn't enhancing the experience, the issue here is moletrap actually takes away value of your show and I worry about it.
I messaged him on twitter multiple times about some things he can do to improve but he didn't reply and from todays cast hasn't taken anything into consideration.
From a very worried GSL viewer.
Now Seriously He is Ruining a lot of peoples viewing Experiences. He just doesn't work well with any Caster.
If you actually read the Thread You'd see that.
Not everyone on TL.net here is a GOM Customer. Most of you just Blindly Support Mole Trap without having to listen to his god awful Casting.
People will complain about everything. There is no perfect caster. The people who are going to post are overwhelmingly negative because the people who like him are not going to make a huge deal about it.
This zombeeez guy is funny. if I was 12.
There is no Overwhelming negative its just the Forsaken(Forbidden on TL.net) Truth.
Try watching his Casts. Its Unbearable.
Its one of those things you either really hate or Like. The Majority of the People on GOM.TV Do not want him Casting.
You seriously are fucking retarded. You didnt just read one thing that guy stated, all u keep doing is blabbing on about the same thing youve stated over and over again. You are trying obviously a lonely idiot.
WTF are you saying ??? "Its one of those things you etiher really hate or like." ??? How the hell are you the one to judge that.. Personally I am in the middle of the road about, him, and I am being positive thinking that he will get better. So that proves your fucking statement totally fucking wrong.
the personal attacks and the somewhat harsh tone (which I dont agree with) the point that FearTheReaperMan makes is more or less right on and I agree with. Moletrap has improved from when he last was on and is improving by the day. Today he and wolf got along pretty well and there was some chemistry and most of all moletrap didnt kill all his jokes. Seems like the hate/dislike for moletrap is more based on previous casts than what he has done this week.
Mole Trap has improved a little bit from before.
But he still has absolutely no Chemistry with the other Caster. He Talks about 80% of the Time Over Wolf.
He says Like About 50 Times per Match. Its really annoying to listen to the drivel coming from Mole Trap.
He just isn't enjoyable to watch. Which i feel is hurting the GSL and the viewership experience.
From what is supposed to be a professional League. He needs to brush up on his chemistry; on working with the Co-Casters.
He does so many things Wrong Compared to the Other Casters makes awkward situations the Norm in every match by interrupting Trashing almost everything Wolf Says.
And talks over top of Wolf at the same time A lot.
Jason Lee was actually Funny and enjoyable to listen to.
Mole Trap has excitement when battles happens and that's probably the only good quality i can point out he brings to the Cast.
He does have some chemistry with wolf(finally) in todays cast. They were even laughing and joking together more than once. He does not talk over wolf 80% of the time(I get your point, you mean he does it alot) but he is improving here and is doing much better now. He even appologises when he cuts Wolf off. Wolf is also doing better in taking up air time and has begun to cut into moletrap(which I like personally, it sort of balances it out). I actually pick up more on tastosis cutting each other off than I do moletrap + caster X these days.
This Statement In your post.
I hope your kidding especially the last paragraph.
"I actually pick up more on tastosis cutting each other off than I do moletrap + caster X these days."
Uhmmm.. Are you Kidding? He Does it Constantly; Mole Trap Constantly Cuts Wolf Off.
He is talking for about 80% of the Game as well. (Barely allowing Wolf to speak)
Thanks, now I know who I'm talking to. Someone who is stuck in the old ways of moletrap. Also as someone above me pointed out why moletrap is the one who talks the most, that's his part. Also If you dont pick up on how tasteless basically has to appologize to artosis for cutting him off, and does so more than twice almost every cast they do, then youre just hating on moletrap pure and simple seeing how you throw around "stats" left and right and harping on and on the same few points. Moletrap is improving his casts, you are not in your view of him.
edit: final word on this from me. Not gonna come back to this thread.
There is no Personal Hate of MoleTrap
I hate his Casting plain and simple and have already explained why he is a bad/horrible caster.
You really couldn't post anything more than drivel in that post could you.
That is just bashing me again for having an opinion that i don't like his casting.
All the people Defending Mole Trap(Being a Code A Caster) Do not bring forward really any good points and just ignore all the flaws in his casting.
Its just blind support.
That of which was laid out in any post you've tried to hilariously compared Tastosis to Mole Trap which is quite sad.