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On August 03 2011 07:05 udgnim wrote: really don't see how IGN is creating a sustainable business with their venture into e-sports
NASL has lots of commercials and subscribers
MLG has plenty of different methods of monetizing their event
IGN has what? stream commercials? is IGN trying to set up something similar to MLG?
Lol! Don't worry, IGN knows exactly what it's doing. It's a company, and it won't just throw away money without getting enough advertisement/money in return.
This is exciting for me though, IGN stepping up their game! Hopefully they can keep a high production quality through their transition from taped to live.
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On August 03 2011 09:22 Sandro wrote: I hope no koreans are given free invites, make them qualify like everyone else.
Cool, it will look like the NASL qualifiers did. Of 16 new players 14 were Korean and huge numbers of Code S Koreans didn't play.
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West coast needs more events
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On August 03 2011 09:22 Sandro wrote: I hope no koreans are given free invites, make them qualify like everyone else. I think an all-Korean qualifier would be a good idea and then take the top 3.
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Yeah if there are no Koreans I don;t think I will have enough interest to watch.
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On August 03 2011 09:21 moltenlead wrote: This is pretty cool. I would imagine it would be in IPL's HQ city, but I can always be surprised. Well thats in San Francisco, but the OP says the event will be on the East Coast so thats not happening.
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East-Fucking-Coast!!!! Hellz yes I'm goin!!!
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Edit: I'm wrong. East coast is not SF 
ESports HO!
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I hope the event is in Philly. I'm thinking one game is gonna be Dota 2.
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On August 03 2011 09:21 BigLighthouse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 08:48 Talin wrote:On August 03 2011 08:30 Sina92 wrote:On August 03 2011 08:30 lunchforthesky wrote:On August 03 2011 08:21 Rickilicious wrote: Hmm. If there are 2 options I seem them having here. Wanting E-Sports to grow around the world, thus allowing Koreans, which could potentially scare away people who would want to qualify otherwise. Or wanting E-Sports to grow in the western side of the world, keeping most Koreans out and potentially hurting their cause. Either way it's a win win. win. imo Banning Koreans does not make esports grow in the west at all, it makes half the viewers immediately not give a crap about your tournament. Half or more. Certainly more than half, according to most polls (including the one on the bottom right). Not allowing Koreans in would be a massive step in the wrong direction. Strictly speaking the poll in the bottom right doesnt show that. All it shows is that at present 32% were put off to a degree by an all Korean final. It does not suggest that the remaining 68% would have a no interest in an event with no Korean entrants. In fact only 34% even suggest a desire to see the Korean players, and this only to the degree that they are accepted as the best players.
No, it technically does not suggest that, but it's a clear indicator that 68% (on that poll alone, and there were a ton of other polls, worded in many different ways) has no problems with Koreans taking all the top ranks. If they have no problem with that, it only makes sense they will appreciate an event with top players more than they will appreciate an event with a few decent players.
Yeah, in the end a lot of people (myself included) will watch nearly any tournament, especially well produced ones, but it will never have as big of an impact as a real top tournament. Does anybody even remember IPL1 anymore? Even IPL2 (that has some Europeans in) doesn't get that much attention and isn't considered a top level event.
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Hopefully this isn't another low-level foreigner tournament because with all the competition today, it's really not worth watching if so.
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Quality of games will unfortunately come from the skill of players. You won't get high quality games unless koreans are involved whether that means a slaughter-fest or a pure korean top xxx, doesn't matter. As others have said, I wouldn't even take a glance at this tournament unless there was korean participation. I may even be put off if they tried severely capping korean participation (invites are different though).
Let's be honest here. The best games have almost always included at least one korean OR one foreigner who had practiced in Korea.
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On August 03 2011 09:15 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 09:12 Xkalibert wrote: If no Koreans, it mean just minor league and not many people would be interested, But on the other end if there all Koreans in top 10 people would be a bored. I suggest something in between limit koreans invites/qualifiers. And Hope it take place in San Fransisco Bay Area where the IPL Esport headquarters. If you do it that way then the Koreans that get in will still win all the top spots and it will only look worse because a) you capped the number of Koreans just to give foreign players a chance b) Koreans still won c) The overall quality of the tournament was weaker
I'm not asking for 100% legitimacy, some sacrifice must be make for the growth of western pro players scene so that it doesn't become like BW. BW doesn't have big name western players and with little or no interest from western viewership left. That why I say balance between no Korean vs limited Koreans. No Korean vs unlimited Koreans will lose the interest of a lot of viewership from western viewers who come to cheer mainly for foreigner players. For example, in MLG Anaheim numbers of people tweeted that they lost interests after all foreigners are knocked out and also complain that not many foreigners game were not stream in day3 of Anaheim. Compare that to Street Fighter 4 AE EVO final many people cheers and were hyped because of one American player Latif crushing Japaneses and Koreans to make it into the Final. On the topic of SFIV AE, I think second unnamed game will be SFIV AE along with HON and SC2.
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love ipl stuff. this is great!
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Very nice hope its in DC hehe
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On August 03 2011 10:04 Laneir wrote: Very nice hope its in DC hehe
omg lol me too going there for college
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Cannot wait to see MC back on the big stage here in NA
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yay, another live event \o/ i like !
aslong as they dont get the nasl sound guy, or try to mimic mlg with their ad-show (with videogames interruptions), i am excited.
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Southern East Coast hopefully 
If not, I'm still excited to watch online =)
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