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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
I love how Koreans and foreigners are building ONE community more and more. It's good for SCII and for esports in general. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:48 Yiska wrote: Those topics aren't even related and you mash them up because you apparently didn't understand what he was stating. I encourage you to rewatch the clip where he states his idea and come back here. You are very off on this. Even regarding the topic you created (which is not what CatZ is talking about) the American players of coL still win out in this deal as they get to practice in a pro environment if they so wish. coL is easily the most supportive organisation in NA of local talent. lol. He starts bashing on NASL, MLG all these tournaments for inviting Koreans over saying that we have to keep them away to let E-Sports grow in the West. But then when his team starts a partnership with Koreans so (on the MVP's side of things) can send more Koreans to foreign events, he starts saying "no no no. it's completely okay because it's MY team that's doing it." I have no problem with coL. doing this, but this is just complete bullshit when CatZ tries to explain that he agreed with his team's actions all along. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:56 Gamegene wrote: lol. He starts bashing on NASL, MLG all these tournaments for inviting Koreans over saying that we have to keep them away to let E-Sports grow in the West. But then when his team starts a partnership with Koreans so (on the MVP's side of things) can send more Koreans to foreign events, he starts saying "no no no. it's completely okay because it's MY team that's doing it." I have no problem with coL. doing this, but this is just complete bullshit when CatZ tries to explain that he agreed with his team's actions all along. You keep making strawman arguments here. Do you actually read the posts you are responding to? Also you don't need to post lol at the beginning of your posts, they are hilarious enough as they are. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:50 Gamegene wrote: I wish teams would follow FXO and TL's example and actually send players to train hard in Korea; maybe stay in their home countries and make team houses like EG. But the bottom line is that hard work HAS been paying off for all foreigners who practice insanely hard. Look at HuK as the oGs-TL ace. Look at qxc all killing IM. Read FXOboss's posts about how diligently his players are starting to practice realizing they have so much work to do. Sponsorship isn't going to go very far. There are no shortcuts in anything in life. Well to be fair, I don't think any other team can do what FXO has. And Complexity has the ability to do just what oGs and TL are doing as CoL players can go and train in the MVP house. | ||
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King of Kings
Germany481 Posts
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VAR1ABLES
United States29 Posts
part of me also hates this - coL isn't actually doing anything except sponsoring another team, which i am definately not a fan of. I really hope that thsi and the Sk deal are only the beginning and allow these teams to have an inroad with each other - and allow one(in this case coL, whose got plenty of capital and experience from what i've seen int he last couple months) to buy the other out when the time is right. | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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Rendonsmug
3 Posts
On July 23 2011 19:10 King of Kings wrote: I WANT col.KEEN at MLG! To be honest I'd rather see his navy brother, cdr.KEEN at MLG. At first blush this sounds like a good deal, but I afraid that after not too long we'll see a similar post saying that FXO or col has released most or all of their non-Korean players, and merged the rest into the Korean organization. It seems that is more likely than seeing more than 1 or 2 players on these foreign teams going and staying in Korean (after the GTSL). | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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kuroshiro
United Kingdom378 Posts
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k!llua
Australia895 Posts
On July 23 2011 13:22 Rylaji wrote: Brood War - Few chosen ones went to Korea. Starcraft 2 - KOREANS ARE COMING TO US! LOLOLOL only because we're paying them to. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On July 23 2011 18:50 Gamegene wrote: I wish teams would follow FXO and TL's example and actually send players to train hard in Korea; maybe stay in their home countries and make team houses like EG. But the bottom line is that hard work HAS been paying off for all foreigners who practice insanely hard. Look at HuK as the oGs-TL ace. Look at qxc all killing IM. Read FXOboss's posts about how diligently his players are starting to practice realizing they have so much work to do. Sponsorship isn't going to go very far. There are no shortcuts in anything in life. Yes, I like the approach FXO and TL are going. They are not only sponsoring, but contributing on both sides player wise. HuK is with oGs and oGs provides all he needs to become a better player. Also, FXO is now "one" with fOu, they're not just giving money but also giving an opportunity to practice with other players worldwide, play in foreign tournaments etc. They are now one team and not just sponsoring each other with money or shit like that. But the way coL and SK go is imho just pretty bad. It's okay though because these deals will break soon enough. | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On July 23 2011 19:41 KeksX wrote: Yes, I like the approach FXO and TL are going. They are not only sponsoring, but contributing on both sides player wise. HuK is with oGs and oGs provides all he needs to become a better player. Also, FXO is now "one" with fOu, they're not just giving money but also giving an opportunity to practice with other players worldwide, play in foreign tournaments etc. They are now one team and not just sponsoring each other with money or shit like that. But the way coL and SK go is imho just pretty bad. It's okay though because these deals will break soon enough. Keksx please do everyone a freaking favor and spend 5 minutes reading the first post. Then go have a drink and spend another 5 minutes reading it again. CoL's agreement is one of it's kind because it combines both TL's and SK's deals together. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
You don't think anyone tried to pay broodwar players to come over? | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
 The arrangement is believed to be a first of its kind | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 23 2011 19:23 Rendonsmug wrote: To be honest I'd rather see his navy brother, cdr.KEEN at MLG. At first blush this sounds like a good deal, but I afraid that after not too long we'll see a similar post saying that FXO or col has released most or all of their non-Korean players, and merged the rest into the Korean organization. It seems that is more likely than seeing more than 1 or 2 players on these foreign teams going and staying in Korean (after the GTSL). FXO won't, as they're well setup for outside of Korea, just kind of close by. Plus, they have some really long term goals (of which I know exists, what they are I'm not sure). FXO is actually going for the 1-stop-shop approach of having casting teams along with playing teams. Plus, they're so far invested in Malaysia, they aren't going to abandon ship anytime soon. Though, I do worry for Oz's ability to learn English. Too much more time around Tgun and he may be ruined. Edit: I should probably point out that, it seems, the unwritten rule of FXO's operation is "MarineKing.Prime will take 70% of our money". | ||
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
Anyway, I'm glad to see some travel support and I hope it goes well . | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
CoL just got a monster teammate/practice partner lol :p Once complexity tries to send dongraegu to all the foreign events I wouldn't be surprised if he'll be like MC top3 consistent :D | ||
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