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compLexity & MVP Partner - DRG & Genius - coL.MVP - Page 27

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2011 12:39 GMT
#521
Good Luck to both. I am cheering for DRG next weekend!
I had a good night of sleep.
raistline123
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada18 Posts
July 23 2011 12:54 GMT
#522
I kind of wonder with all this talk about foreign teams approaching Korean players if this is where all these mergers are coming from.

IE: Col. approaches DRG, says they are interested in signing him and maybe genius, DRG then says to them maybe you should speak with my coach first, which in turn takes place and this is the type of deal that is struck.

How do we know that Col. didn't approach DRG and Genius on their own? And maybe if they did this is how things turned out.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 23 2011 12:54 GMT
#523
coL basically just looked at the oGs-SK and oGs-TL deals and said "Hmm. How can we take the best parts of both of these and make it work?" and did.

Well done on their part.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
July 23 2011 12:57 GMT
#524
This is great news, love you Koreans!
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 23 2011 13:01 GMT
#525
Teams better get their koreans while their still available... jesus the whole country is about to be bought out by foreign teams... and you know who benefits... ESPORTS
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
raistline123
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada18 Posts
July 23 2011 13:05 GMT
#526
Ya know, I was siding with EG on their aquisition of Puma, but I can't but think after this announcement that maybe they did go the wrong way. I don't have anything against the way they did things but it seems that a deal like this could have been beneficial to both teams.


Grats CoL!!!
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
July 23 2011 13:05 GMT
#527
On July 23 2011 21:54 raistline123 wrote:
I kind of wonder with all this talk about foreign teams approaching Korean players if this is where all these mergers are coming from.

IE: Col. approaches DRG, says they are interested in signing him and maybe genius, DRG then says to them maybe you should speak with my coach first, which in turn takes place and this is the type of deal that is struck.

How do we know that Col. didn't approach DRG and Genius on their own? And maybe if they did this is how things turned out.


We contacted Choi, the MVP manager, first and contacted him directly (not through a player).
compLexity Gaming - @coL_Lake
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
July 23 2011 13:06 GMT
#528
massive pickup, great news as they can now send a few players to Korea now and again for some etended practice to improve so much more!!!
Live and Let Die!
raistline123
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada18 Posts
July 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#529
On July 23 2011 22:05 jlake02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:54 raistline123 wrote:
I kind of wonder with all this talk about foreign teams approaching Korean players if this is where all these mergers are coming from.

IE: Col. approaches DRG, says they are interested in signing him and maybe genius, DRG then says to them maybe you should speak with my coach first, which in turn takes place and this is the type of deal that is struck.

How do we know that Col. didn't approach DRG and Genius on their own? And maybe if they did this is how things turned out.


We contacted Choi, the MVP manager, first and contacted him directly (not through a player).



Ahh good to hear. I love the direction things are going keep up the great work!!!!
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
July 23 2011 13:13 GMT
#530
Thanks very much, we appreciate it
compLexity Gaming - @coL_Lake
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
July 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#531
Congrats to col and MVP!!
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 13:16:08
July 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#532
wow sc2 is really expanding out of korea, this is good imo
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
July 23 2011 13:20 GMT
#533
Too bad it's not a team partnership. It will be like hte SK.Nada/MC deal...
Simply Awesome! - Liquid'Ret - NSHoSeo_Seal - coLMVP_DRG - EG_Idra - Fnatic.NightEnd
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
July 23 2011 13:23 GMT
#534
Does all of this have anything to do with what EG guy Alex Garfield was talking about on Weapon of Choice? You know. Korean teams are hurting for sponsors. So they would obviously look outside for sponsorship deals, and combining forces with foreigner teams that actually have great sponsors and funding would be the best logical choice. This way MVP gets extra money from sponsorships and coL gets some great players under their team flag as well.

At any rate, great acquisition and great deal I'm sure for both sides. Can't wait to see some DRG at more foreigner events and maybe even some coL guys in the MVP house.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 13:24:37
July 23 2011 13:24 GMT
#535
So how does Col.Catz feel about DRG and Genius coming to future MLGs and other foreign events to steal foreigners' ladder points? :p
coljbass
Profile Joined June 2011
United States42 Posts
July 23 2011 13:26 GMT
#536
We at compLexity have started off a solid business partnership with MVP. I really believe you will see this deal deepen and grow over time. You will see a lot more cooperation and way to get both brands exposure but having dual roles in guiding and managing the players. In all honesty we already have several things in the works to not only benefit Western eSports from this deal but greatly benefit the Korean scene as well. The point of this all is yes it is a good business move for us and them but more importantly this will help us both become better organizations. No one is being harmed by this. The players are getting more exposure, opportunity and travel and both organizations are gaining a foothold outside of their homelands as well as the increased exposure and ability to learn from each other.

There is always going to be the clamoring for "why didnt they just buy out the players or buy the whole organization or merger? That is not always possible. All options were discussed and at this moment in time both parties agreed this was the best way to start.

Raistline: I can tell you, you should read my interview on ESFI. I am very honest and transparent about how all of this happened. One thing I believe in heavily is just being honest. Good or bad that is the best policy and I have been working in eSports for over 10 years and so a lot of people can vouch for that fact. So on that note, I could give you every name of the people I spoke with to get to Choi but I won't. I did not speak to the players prior to speaking to Choi(MVP Manager). That I 100% guarantee.

I do give more detail at ESFI

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/feature/complexity-coo-elaborates-col-mvp-deal
raistline123
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 13:51:57
July 23 2011 13:46 GMT
#537
[B]
Raistline: I can tell you, you should read my interview on ESFI. I am very honest and transparent about how all of this happened. One thing I believe in heavily is just being honest. Good or bad that is the best policy and I have been working in eSports for over 10 years and so a lot of people can vouch for that fact. So on that note, I could give you every name of the people I spoke with to get to Choi but I won't. I did not speak to the players prior to speaking to Choi(MVP Manager). That I 100% guarantee.

I do give more detail at ESFI

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/feature/complexity-coo-elaborates-col-mvp-deal


I wasn't doubting your honesty one bit. I have read the thread and am looking forward to the future for your team.

Will you eventually be sending players to Korea to train??? Is this part of the deal at all?
coljbass
Profile Joined June 2011
United States42 Posts
July 23 2011 14:09 GMT
#538
On July 23 2011 22:46 raistline123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]
Raistline: I can tell you, you should read my interview on ESFI. I am very honest and transparent about how all of this happened. One thing I believe in heavily is just being honest. Good or bad that is the best policy and I have been working in eSports for over 10 years and so a lot of people can vouch for that fact. So on that note, I could give you every name of the people I spoke with to get to Choi but I won't. I did not speak to the players prior to speaking to Choi(MVP Manager). That I 100% guarantee.

I do give more detail at ESFI

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/feature/complexity-coo-elaborates-col-mvp-deal


I wasn't doubting your honesty one bit. I have read the thread and am looking forward to the future for your team.

Will you eventually be sending players to Korea to train??? Is this part of the deal at all?


The plan is to send players to Korea. It really just depends on schedules and their desire. This is still very new so we are working out those details. Some players have expressed interest. We will just try to time it with other events and the GSL schedule to get the most out of it for the players.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 23 2011 14:10 GMT
#539
On July 23 2011 22:26 coljbass wrote:
We at compLexity have started off a solid business partnership with MVP. I really believe you will see this deal deepen and grow over time. You will see a lot more cooperation and way to get both brands exposure but having dual roles in guiding and managing the players. In all honesty we already have several things in the works to not only benefit Western eSports from this deal but greatly benefit the Korean scene as well. The point of this all is yes it is a good business move for us and them but more importantly this will help us both become better organizations. No one is being harmed by this. The players are getting more exposure, opportunity and travel and both organizations are gaining a foothold outside of their homelands as well as the increased exposure and ability to learn from each other.

There is always going to be the clamoring for "why didnt they just buy out the players or buy the whole organization or merger? That is not always possible. All options were discussed and at this moment in time both parties agreed this was the best way to start.

Raistline: I can tell you, you should read my interview on ESFI. I am very honest and transparent about how all of this happened. One thing I believe in heavily is just being honest. Good or bad that is the best policy and I have been working in eSports for over 10 years and so a lot of people can vouch for that fact. So on that note, I could give you every name of the people I spoke with to get to Choi but I won't. I did not speak to the players prior to speaking to Choi(MVP Manager). That I 100% guarantee.

I do give more detail at ESFI

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/feature/complexity-coo-elaborates-col-mvp-deal


Do the Prime/World Elite thing somewhere down the line, it sounds sick as hell.

MVPGenius.coL , fuck yeah!?
coLMinigun.MVP , nice ring to it! Particularly when you think of it being said by the GSL announcer.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#540
Korea's got players, west's got money, this seems like it's good for all parties. Well, except new western up and coming pros.
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