EPT"EG!! that's a lie. Puma Good luck. TSL Everyone you want to be a good gamer. good bye."
http://twitter.com/TSL_korea/status/94017113055956993
Have I missed something, a statement from EG or something like that?
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
"EG!! that's a lie. Puma Good luck. TSL Everyone you want to be a good gamer. good bye." http://twitter.com/TSL_korea/status/94017113055956993 Have I missed something, a statement from EG or something like that? | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:58 AgentV wrote: Maybe EG is going to acquire TSL next. EG Korea brand sounds awesome! =)) FXO already acquired For Our Utopia and formed FXO Korea. Somehow this wouldn't surprise me. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:21 Grimsong wrote: Puma's taking his talents to EG. Haha, nice one  | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9033 Posts
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PBG
40 Posts
if it were that simple then we wouldn't need translators at all would we? Google translate fails hard and I laugh every time when I see people trying to talk to korean streamers like slayers dragon using google translate as most of the phrases make no sense at all. Probably not the best example but try typing something in english and translating it into Swedish and my guess what it spits back out isn't what you originally typed. I won't make any guesses about the Swedish language(just making an assumption based on your location) but like Korean it probably has a different grammatical structure than english much like korean does. | ||
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Bawert
United States16 Posts
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Xiaon
United States245 Posts
On July 21 2011 23:00 TheSilverfox wrote: This is a tweet from TSL_Korea: "EG!! that's a lie. Puma Good luck. TSL Everyone you want to be a good gamer. good bye." http://twitter.com/TSL_korea/status/94017113055956993 Have I missed something, a statement from EG or something like that? Evil Geniuses!! that's a lie. | ||
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Copenap
723 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:48 meadbert wrote: So in the real world when someone wants to hire me they call me, not my current manager. Why should it be different in esports? If Puma had some contractual obligation then he would need to negotiate out of the contract. What is it with management acting as if they own their employees? That is not how it operates in America at all. 1. TSL made it possible for Puma to become this good and basicly paid for his "qualification". Now that finally that pays dividends EG comes a picks him up instead of putting the money in developing own talents. 2. What's even worse imo (if that is all true, I'm still waiting for an official statement), you don't approach a 19yr old boy who's probably abroad for the first time and make him an offer a kid can't really comprehend. Wait for him to return home to korea and contact him and his parents while also informing TSL of this move, that would have been the better way. We still don't know everything but the op states that they contacted him while the tournament wasn't even finished and that's not responsible at all imo, even if I certainly hope he took this offer home and discussed it throroughly with his parents. My statement is obviously only valid under the assumption that the op is correct. In that case I don't agree with the behaviour of EG. Edit: Sound to me like TSl is stating that they didn't say anything bad about EG and the statement in the op may be wrong? That would obviously change a lot so I just hope we get clarification. | ||
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jiveturkey
United States18 Posts
And there is nothing wrong with bypassing management. If they would have gone through TSL as opposed to talking to Puma directly, Puma most likely would not have joined EG because the TSL management would most likely twist the offer in a way that Puma would not want to join. They are desperate to keep their best player. Talking directly to him allows them to give him the straight up offer. If it's a good enough offer, he'll take it. If not, then he will not. This is a mutually beneficial arrangement and people should be happy for both EG and Puma. "IMO it takes a fairly scumbag person aka organization to approach PUMA personally like this." Why? He is a person. If you want to offer a person something, then do it. It makes no sense to go through that person's management. It is not EG's responsibility to talk to the team of a player they are interested in. They are simply interested in the player, and it his that player's obligation to figure things out with his team, which he obviously did. | ||
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SoniStreet
Macedonia98 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:57 Enigma614 wrote: Thanks for clarifying.... mind it be after the fact... sorry for my Korean translation as I have never studied it, but was not lazy enough to attempt to find the answer unlike many in the internet world It's not about being lazy but being accurate, it doesn't take effort to copy paste a phrase in google, in-fact this is the lazier solution then writing it on TL and asking kindly for help from native speaker. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:59 Proko wrote: You really don't get it do you? TSL could have kept him if they wanted and could afford it. they couldn't and they are mad so they are starting a shitstorm about it. Take off your villainy glasses and see it for what it is. TSL is falling apart and the coach doesn't like it. Starts whining publically. It's retarded to think that Scoots has to go and talk to TSL's coach to make an offer to one of his players, write your contracts better and pay the player what he's worth. One of the problems with Kespa was that it treated (and treats) players like cattle. Lucky, SC2 doesn't have that problem. I like EG, they have my favourite player. I also like Puma and TSL. You are assuming I view things in a certain way in order to push your own belief. You have shown you don't like TSL and have shat all over them. So who here is the one with shaded glasses? | ||
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10or10
Sweden517 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:03 10or10 wrote: some reading for those interested: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227816 I don't remember what episode of Lo3 this was discussed, one in may I would assume... anyone know? Found the episode: Lo3 #74, http://blip.tv/liveonthree/live-on-three-e74-06-01-2011-5232876 (approx. last 15 min of the episode ) basically sirscoots says if a player is contracted to another organization he would informally ask the player for interest at first, then he would go to the manager holding the players contract and discuss a deal. And that's if the organizations should play nice with each other (as there aren't any organizational agreements or contracts between the organizations), any legal issues would be between the contracted player and the organization. But he didn't like the way fnatic and sk didn't play nice. So my initial memory was wrong: sirscoots didn't say anything critical about uncontracted players, but only fnatic and SKs handling of contracted players and a wish for them all [e-sport teams] to play nice with one another. | ||
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Ome
Canada157 Posts
In North American pro sports, the same thing would happen if there weren't penalties for doing so, ie not allowing the player to play at all unless he fulfills his contract completely. SC2 is not at that point yet, and I'm not sure it ever will be. EG obviously offered Puma something TSL couldn't, whether it's a higher salary or just the chance to go to more foreign events, we don't know the details. I'm excited to see Puma at more foreign events though. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2581 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:55 Enigma614 wrote: Thank you for your contribution to answer the persons question... at least an attempt was made, might it be not by you. Posting gibberish that no one can understand is not a contribution to answer the person's question, and you compounded the asshattery by adding a snide comment. Just don't ever use automated translation tools to generate content around here. Especially not for Asian languages. We've got lots of very talented folks around here that can extract meaning from the Hangul. | ||
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:56 Aegeis wrote: I am already looking forward to the damage control that EG will do on Live on 3. I think Live on 3 lost most of its credibility after the last EG public relations fuck up. | ||
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Sandro
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:42 GreEny K wrote: Actually, if you are a contracted player in the MLG, NFL or NBA you are not allowed to do that... It is breaking rules. Actually, when they are under contract and they want to move, they just whine in the clubhouse. If that doesn't work, they complain to the press. Then, once they become toxic to the team morale, ownership has no choice but to give in to the player and trade them where they want. These kinds of things happen in sports - it just looks different because of the governing body and league rules. | ||
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Lankeer
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
Yes, I do understand that EG stands for Evil Geniuses, thanks for pointing that out though!  | ||
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