• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:20
CET 08:20
KST 16:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win02025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame The New Patch Killed Mech! Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Season 21
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
LMAO (controversial!!)
Peanutsc
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1232 users

Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 140

Forum Index > SC2 General
7189 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 138 139 140 141 142 360 Next
Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
July 21 2011 13:23 GMT
#2781
On July 21 2011 22:18 cronaldo5909 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:15 Telefonmann wrote:
OH my GOD

FXO buying fOu
EG buying Puma...

YOu smell something coming up .... ?


HELL YEAH !...its getting INTERNATIONAL...

and i LOVE it



FXO didnt buy fOu

have your facts right.



They did actually. FXO "Acquired" fOu according to Boss. I'd say he's a pretty good source.
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
July 21 2011 13:23 GMT
#2782
On July 21 2011 22:20 Telebear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:12 Huggerz wrote:
I hope this does not start a trend of foreign companies going straight to Korean players and buying them out, will only degenerate business credibility of e-sports imo



Buying out players and teams is a practice of almost every other sport in the world, modern football is all about buying up players from lesser teams and it's literally the biggest and most business friendly sport in the world!

So no it wont degenerate the business credibility at all!



i wish people would see like this for just what it is.


IT BUSINESS
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 21 2011 13:23 GMT
#2783
On July 21 2011 22:20 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:18 cronaldo5909 wrote:
On July 21 2011 22:15 Telefonmann wrote:
OH my GOD

FXO buying fOu
EG buying Puma...

YOu smell something coming up .... ?


HELL YEAH !...its getting INTERNATIONAL...

and i LOVE it



FXO didnt buy fOu

have your facts right.


Ummm what>?

Aren't you uptodate? Of course you didn't buy fOu.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Telefonmann
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 13:24:46
July 21 2011 13:23 GMT
#2784
have you listened to the last state of the game with the BOSS talking about it...

i hope i am not wrong at trhat point.. but he said that fOu Leadership declared things a bit wrong in Public and that their arent 2 teams but 1 team FXO with two divisions...

he also states that he is going to provide the team with money and fOu provides management and contacts..

that pretty much sounds to me that he "bought" it...and fOu couldnt handle the financial part on their own any longer....


correct me if i am wrong...and sry if i am

and apologiez for my bad english...
AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
July 21 2011 13:24 GMT
#2785
On July 21 2011 22:20 Rayansaki wrote:
I have yet to heard of a team that even takes a cut from player winnings. Teams don't finance themselves with prize money, ever.


How would teams be able to finance themselves purely from prize winnings which is basically a lottery? that makes no sense. However you should realise MC along with other players have repayed their teams with money.
insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
July 21 2011 13:24 GMT
#2786
TSL just posted this on their twitter:
EG!! that's a lie. Puma Good luck. TSL Everyone you want to be a good gamer. good bye.


Not sure what they mean though. Source
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 13:25:32
July 21 2011 13:24 GMT
#2787
On July 21 2011 22:20 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:18 cronaldo5909 wrote:
On July 21 2011 22:15 Telefonmann wrote:
OH my GOD

FXO buying fOu
EG buying Puma...

YOu smell something coming up .... ?


HELL YEAH !...its getting INTERNATIONAL...

and i LOVE it



FXO didnt buy fOu

have your facts right.


Ummm what>?


lol

I love how this post is already here so quickly.

I could have sworn I bought that team...
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
July 21 2011 13:25 GMT
#2788
On July 21 2011 22:20 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:18 cronaldo5909 wrote:
On July 21 2011 22:15 Telefonmann wrote:
OH my GOD

FXO buying fOu
EG buying Puma...

YOu smell something coming up .... ?


HELL YEAH !...its getting INTERNATIONAL...

and i LOVE it



FXO didnt buy fOu

have your facts right.


Ummm what>?


You are sure fOu didn't buy you??

I am not young enough to know everything.
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
July 21 2011 13:26 GMT
#2789
On July 21 2011 22:19 Rayansaki wrote:
EG goes from being idra and friends to being puma and friends. :D



didnt idrA say he and puma were on the same cj entus team in korea?
RenardDesMers
Profile Joined April 2011
France76 Posts
July 21 2011 13:26 GMT
#2790
I think this story is for the best for players and the community.

It might enforce good practices with contracts and clear situations to avoid such mess.

Of course, coach Lee and TSL might here suffer from this but in the long run, it could be good for the players.

I'm curious though about how many pro players play in known teams without any sort of contract.
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 21 2011 13:26 GMT
#2791
On July 21 2011 22:25 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:20 FXOpen wrote:
On July 21 2011 22:18 cronaldo5909 wrote:
On July 21 2011 22:15 Telefonmann wrote:
OH my GOD

FXO buying fOu
EG buying Puma...

YOu smell something coming up .... ?


HELL YEAH !...its getting INTERNATIONAL...

and i LOVE it



FXO didnt buy fOu

have your facts right.


Ummm what>?


You are sure fOu didn't buy you??



Only on friday nights. When I become Madame Boss
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
moonmeh
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 13:28:18
July 21 2011 13:26 GMT
#2792
Couldn't help laughing a bit at the fragmented english there... What did EG lie about anyway? I didn't see any statement from Sir Scoots other than typical E-sports news.

*jesus this thread moves fast* This was in response to this link someone posted
FaiL_SaFe
Profile Joined February 2011
United States104 Posts
July 21 2011 13:26 GMT
#2793
On July 21 2011 22:21 Grimsong wrote:
Puma's taking his talents to EG.


Haha.

On a constructive note, it is entirely possible that PuMa was under contract. However, unless the contract was properly notarized and signed it isn't legally binding. If he was under contract but it wasn't a legally binding one (aka not properly notarized and certified) then he was free to leave. It was, essentially a Gentleman's agreement. He could have left at any time he chose to.

If this is the case (and to be fair I don't know if it is) then, while underhanded, it was completely legal.

This is something which actually, Sir Scoots mentioned on an episode of Live on Three but I think is completely accurate, that as esports continues to grow I think we need to start taking contracts more seriously and doing things like properly notarizing them and creating a framework by which they actually become legally binding.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 21 2011 13:26 GMT
#2794
On July 21 2011 22:18 cronaldo5909 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:15 Telefonmann wrote:
OH my GOD

FXO buying fOu
EG buying Puma...

YOu smell something coming up .... ?


HELL YEAH !...its getting INTERNATIONAL...

and i LOVE it



FXO didnt buy fOu

have your facts right.



We are not under the same type of agreement as oGs.TL. FXO has aquired fOu, it iwll become FXO.


Acquired sounds similar to buy to me.

Anyway am I the only one who doesn't see anything wrong with it ? Isnt it should be up to the PLAYER to decide for wich team he wants to play on? PuMa didn't had a contract right? If he didn't , then there is no problem, of course it's another story if he had one but I would still be ok with it I think.

Since when did a player switching teams became illegal ?

flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
July 21 2011 13:26 GMT
#2795
This time EG has gone too far. My fantasy GSTL is completely boned now.

Did Scoots even think about my fGSTL before signing puma?
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Serene
Profile Joined August 2010
United States23 Posts
July 21 2011 13:27 GMT
#2796
I see it in two lights since we have only one side of the story.

No Contract, No Problem.

If there was a contract in place, then there have been two recent events where contracts in eSports have been breached by organizations recruiting players. Breaching/Voiding contracts is a serious offense and diminishes the credibility of all those involved, trickling down to industry's perception by outsiders.

Until more information is released I will restrain final judgment.
It's Always Darkest Before The Dawn
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
July 21 2011 13:27 GMT
#2797
팀원을 비롯한 많은분들과 그렇게 많은고민을하고햇는대도 이렇게.......... .................

from puma's twitter, if anyone can translate
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 21 2011 13:27 GMT
#2798
It's like the chelsea-ashely cole affair all over again. As long as Puma was under contract with TSL, EG should've contacted them for permission to approach the player. I guess this is the problem with not having proper governing bodies in place to regulate this sort of behaviour.

So what's going to happen to Puma now? I assume he'll move out of the TSL house but where does he go? I'm sure he'll still have practice partners on bnet but I would not be shocked if some of the TSL players gave him the cold shoulder.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 21 2011 13:27 GMT
#2799
On July 21 2011 22:26 FaiL_SaFe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:21 Grimsong wrote:
Puma's taking his talents to EG.


Haha.

On a constructive note, it is entirely possible that PuMa was under contract. However, unless the contract was properly notarized and signed it isn't legally binding. If he was under contract but it wasn't a legally binding one (aka not properly notarized and certified) then he was free to leave. It was, essentially a Gentleman's agreement. He could have left at any time he chose to.

If this is the case (and to be fair I don't know if it is) then, while underhanded, it was completely legal.

This is something which actually, Sir Scoots mentioned on an episode of Live on Three but I think is completely accurate, that as esports continues to grow I think we need to start taking contracts more seriously and doing things like properly notarizing them and creating a framework by which they actually become legally binding.


The law is different everywhere.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 21 2011 13:27 GMT
#2800
On July 21 2011 22:25 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 22:20 FXOpen wrote:
On July 21 2011 22:18 cronaldo5909 wrote:
On July 21 2011 22:15 Telefonmann wrote:
OH my GOD

FXO buying fOu
EG buying Puma...

YOu smell something coming up .... ?


HELL YEAH !...its getting INTERNATIONAL...

and i LOVE it



FXO didnt buy fOu

have your facts right.


Ummm what>?


You are sure fOu didn't buy you??



Directed by M Night. Shyamalan.

But seriously, let's not get off topic, guy didn't have his facts straight.
Prev 1 138 139 140 141 142 360 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
01:00
Open Quali #2
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 136
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 464
actioN 403
Movie 63
ToSsGirL 41
soO 41
EffOrt 35
Sacsri 29
yabsab 15
Dota 2
XaKoH 667
League of Legends
JimRising 749
Reynor39
Other Games
summit1g15588
Tasteless171
Mew2King131
NeuroSwarm44
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick653
Counter-Strike
PGL211
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH243
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1027
• Lourlo641
• Stunt633
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 40m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
OSC
4h 40m
CrankTV Team League
5h 40m
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Liquid
BASILISK vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
15h 40m
The PondCast
1d 1h
CrankTV Team League
1d 5h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team A[vengers]
3 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.