Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 135

On July 21 2011 21:48 Duravi wrote:

You cannot acquire a player who is on a team without talking to that team first in normal sports... A "free agent" would mean a player with no team, this was clearly not the case.

On July 21 2011 21:56 BigLighthouse wrote:
Given the conversation with Alex Muller of SK-Gaming last night on lo3 I'd be willing to bet that Puma is making a significant amount of money through this EG pickup. Further, I have to add that in my opinion EG has done nothing wrong in this transaction and in fact TSL managment are being far less "ethical" by painting such a dark picture of the foreign team scene and producing what can only be called a shitstorm. If the SK-fnatic 1.6 saga has taught anyone its that some stuff is better for organisations to air behind closed doors, or they both end up being tainted by it.

TSL_korea TSL
EG!! that's a lie. Puma Good luck. TSL Everyone you want to be a good gamer. good bye.

On July 21 2011 21:57 LastLordofCastamere wrote:


That just means that the current contracts are weak/toothless.

And I don't think it's a coincidence so many players are leaving TSL.

On July 21 2011 21:56 Xiaon wrote:
Not EG's fault PuMa isn't a walking charity;)

Perspective, huh?

On July 21 2011 21:53 Mauldo wrote:
1) Puma kicks ass at NASL.

2) EG approaches him directly about a contract with them to play on their team.

3) Puma wants to switch to EG, tells his coach.

4) His coach finally gives in, giving in to what his player wanted.

The only part I can seriously see you guys finding bad is that EG approached Puma directly, and they didn't approach his coach instead. That's the only part. Every other step in this series of events was based off of what Puma wanted. Are you really going to criticize EG for something that Puma wanted to do?

That's like criticizing EG for Tyler wanting to sign with them (lulz). What fault is it of EG's? Puma (or Tyler) could have said no. In fact, if Puma had this foolhardy sense of "respect" and "honor" that you guys are trying to apply to EG, he would have laughed at EG and stayed with TSL.

Once again, the SC2 community that is apparently so "good" and "friendly" and "totally not in every stream chat shitting on people for no reason" is totally being "judgmental" and "rushing to shit on people with knowing or understanding the facts" and "shitting themselves because a Korean might just be able to play at more foreigner events."

Please. You guys repeatedly cry foul of things killing ESPORTS, (seriously so, not joking around, I'm sure), yet you guys are doing it right here. Every maker of Warp Prism that you burn to the ground before hearing his side of it (and only taking the word of some retarded Reddittor who managed a "who is" search but no other real research as gospel) and every 130+ page thread that we blow up without, you know, hearing how Puma thinks of the situation is what is showing the community for what it really is.

But, you know. This is all good as long as we get to shit on Puma, who obviously can't think in his best interests without him being a traitor to TSL, and EG, because they're the big bad corporation that broke of State of the Game.

Come on guys. Get serious.

On July 21 2011 21:59 AnalThermometer wrote:


No, but it does remove the silly argument that TSL were dumb for not paying him more.

On July 21 2011 21:43 Mordiford wrote:
This represents somewhat of a poor trend that is started to put me off quite a bit. A couple of foreign teams have been buying out Korean players in an effort to remain competitive as opposed to trying to build their own roster, this most recent pick-up through pretty unethical means is incredibly off-putting.

Basically, Koreans have the talent, the foreigners have the money and just pick up the players that Korean teams spend a lot of time training, housing and feeding. Players are an investment in Korea, and if the return on your investment into a player is to see them get poached when you send them to a foreign tournament, then that's a serious fucking problem.

I think it's about time Starcraft 2 had some kind of regulatory organization in Korea for the teams or the teams should simply have diligently written binding contracts in regards to their players, and when these contracts are broken, it is time to seriously enforce them. I think teams should aim to keep 2 year contract, or maybe more in Korea and be serious about enforcing them, this is what I thought Artosis implied on SotG but apparently that's not the case. If a team wants a player, they should have to buy out their contract through management.

On July 21 2011 21:56 Spades wrote:
For all you people that claim korean teams dont pay their players etc.

Being in a Korean pro team house is like a being in a family. The coaches are your parents, the players are your brothers. They usually take a big risk picking you out of anonymity and giving you a chance to live and train with them. They pay for everything, your living, travel, entertainment, whatever. So yeah if i player just randomly leaves without a discussion, of course they will be really upset. It's like they raised you and made you what you are, and you bounced. I think theres a way to be contacted, and a way to do business in regards to a korean player, and the proper steps weren't taken. I can fully understand TSL's position on this.

On July 21 2011 22:00 slimbo1 wrote:
"FXOSheth Shawn David Simon
EG offered a free agent a contract. The free agent decided to accept it. The team that didn't want to contract player is upset they didn't"

On July 21 2011 21:54 AnalThermometer wrote:
Lets add a little perspective as to why EG can take away the players TSL are relying on to survive financially, and why TSL can’t just “pay your players more then, SLAVE WAGES LOL!”.

EG (dat photoshop):


TSL:

On July 21 2011 21:59 slimbo1 wrote:


Indeed!

If the Player Puma likes a new Team and he likes EG, why shouldn't he do so?

And oh my god. There's money involved. WTF.

On July 21 2011 21:57 Cheebah wrote:


I think you're dumb.

On July 21 2011 21:30 Jiddra wrote:


Yea, I don't get it. What is the lie?

On July 21 2011 22:02 Yew wrote:

He wants money lol, that's all it is. Do you REALLY think he wants to go to EG because of the practice partners lmao? He has way better players to play with on his team and from other teams. He wants to make "easy money" by going to foreign tournaments, just like all the other koreans.