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mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 12:20:51
July 21 2011 12:20 GMT
#2541
On July 21 2011 21:16 Antoine wrote:
good for puma in the short run... horrible decision in the long run. every single player that left korea so far has immediately fallen behind in terms of skill.


You mean, the only player that was good that left (IdrA) who now happens to also only plays 3 hours a day (reportedly).

Sure yeah that is everybody, but that is misleading. Sen technically was in Korea for 1-2 weeks, and look how bad he is now...


JK hes a monster.
We talkin about PRACTICE
xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
July 21 2011 12:20 GMT
#2542
On July 21 2011 21:14 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 20:52 Piski wrote:
On July 21 2011 20:48 Maliris wrote:
this is so unprofessional by EG, Tyler was right about them

Stay classy EG


What did Tyler said? :o and where

he said they were a joke of an organisation


where did he say this?
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
July 21 2011 12:20 GMT
#2543
On July 21 2011 21:17 StarStruck wrote:
I agree Antoine.

An incredibly short-sighted decision, but it is his decision nonetheless.

This decision might also be "fear" based. In BW non-top progamers and practice partners earned very little or nothing at all. Maybe fearing this could happen in Korean SC2 scene he decide it is time to earn some money.
Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
July 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2544
Hehe I have the worst luck with my Fantasy team. I just traded to get PuMa on my team.
Only thing I know is that I know nothing.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
July 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2545
Quote TSL Coach @TSL_Korea
TSL_korea TSL
EG!! that's a lie. Puma Good luck. TSL Everyone you want to be a good gamer. good bye.
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
July 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2546
Some very on point comments by the people who are against the EG signing. Yes Puma owes something to TSL. Yes EG was very unethical for approaching Puma on their own.

Lets put it this way.

Imagine you are there, at NASL, the final event. And you know for a fact that PUMA is contracted to TSL, who spent their own money to fly him over there, and due to his success they must have spent a lot of money investing in him (team house, food, equipment, coaching, player connections, practice partners, salary etc..), and you as a team (EG) approaches him quietly to say "hey, would you like to come join our team? Lets talk about it more. Here's our number, call us" - behind the backs of the team coach. That my friends, is damn DIIIRTY.
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
July 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2547
In a capitalistic world I don't see why anyone would have an issue with this.
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
July 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2548
On July 21 2011 21:21 Lizarb wrote:
Hehe I have the worst luck with my Fantasy team. I just traded to get PuMa on my team.

You should've gone directly to PuMa instead.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
July 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2549
On July 21 2011 21:16 StarStruck wrote:
Fnatic versus SK anyone?

My thoughts exactly. There is no written rule between teams. The only organization that does this is KeSPA.



Try FIFA, NHL and pretty much any professional sport.

That SC2 doesn't have the organization behind it yet doesn't make this any less of a dick move.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
July 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2550
On July 21 2011 21:21 kellymilkies wrote:
Quote TSL Coach @TSL_Korea
Show nested quote +
TSL_korea TSL
EG!! that's a lie. Puma Good luck. TSL Everyone you want to be a good gamer. good bye.


EG lie??
I am not young enough to know everything.
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
July 21 2011 12:23 GMT
#2551
Tyler can't talk about profesionalism...he doesn't even do his goddamn job...o.O;
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
July 21 2011 12:23 GMT
#2552
On July 21 2011 21:20 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 21:16 Antoine wrote:
good for puma in the short run... horrible decision in the long run. every single player that left korea so far has immediately fallen behind in terms of skill.


You mean, the only player that was good that left (IdrA) who now happens to also only plays 3 hours a day (reportedly).

Sure yeah that is everybody, but that is misleading. Sen technically was in Korea for 1-2 weeks, and look how bad he is now...


JK hes a monster.


SEn still plays on KR servers.

PuMa still lives in KR, therefore, he won't suck awfully.

Also PuMa is PuMa, he won't have trouble getting practice partners.
chasfrank
Profile Joined March 2010
Gambia59 Posts
July 21 2011 12:23 GMT
#2553
The only thing I don't get is why he would leave a Korean pro house. If he gets to stay in another, that's cool.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
July 21 2011 12:24 GMT
#2554
i just hope EG can offer Puma the training he needs, otherwise we might see a very talented player starting to slump..

And now TSL has lost their ace player as well.. i hope for them they manage to hold on..
jenzebubble
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
July 21 2011 12:24 GMT
#2555
Why is anyone surprised by this? I think that we can all agree that, for the most part, EG's roster has not performed up to their own expectations. They risked becoming irrelevant at a time when they absolutely could not afford to because they sunk a bunch of money and man hours into their team house. I just hope they did their research on Korea and the business culture of Korea and are prepared to mitigate any possible backlash. By that I mean, what happens if the Korean Association of teams bars their players from practicing with players from EG? Puma would be kind of screwed.
"It's like waxing your balls, it hurts like a biiiitch but after they are silky smooth...." -Kennigit
p0lyph0ny
Profile Joined July 2011
United States217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 12:26:14
July 21 2011 12:24 GMT
#2556
holy shit 1 day 128 pages..way to own it up I guess
Skinterran fighting!!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 21 2011 12:25 GMT
#2557
I thought this was a troll thread, part of me still does. Well if he is coming to MLG's and wins a code S spot? idk this is really weird. I guess the Koreans have finally realized the money to be won on the foreign scene.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 21 2011 12:25 GMT
#2558
On July 21 2011 21:24 jenzebubble wrote:
Why is anyone surprised by this? I think that we can all agree that, for the most part, EG's roster has not performed up to their own expectations. They risked becoming irrelevant at a time when they absolutely could not afford to because they sunk a bunch of money and man hours into their team house. I just hope they did their research on Korea and the business culture of Korea and are prepared to mitigate any possible backlash. By that I mean, what happens if the Korean Association of teams bars their players from practicing with players from EG? Puma would be kind of screwed.

Yep. Or I guess a more pointed question- what would KeSPA do in this situation?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 21 2011 12:25 GMT
#2559
Wow, Korean on Every team! Everyone gets a Korean!!
Hope all goes well for EG and Puma.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
July 21 2011 12:26 GMT
#2560
Really good for EG, Really good for Puma, Really bad for TSL, Really good for foreign eSports

That's really all there is to say on the topic.Also: I'm fucking pumped. hahha
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