I don't understand everyone's horrified reactions and attitude towards EG when the only thing that's clear at the moment is that Puma chose to go to EG. So worst case scenario, Puma decided it was the better choice for him (personally, financially, etc). Whether or not Puma should have spoken to his coach/manager or not is another issue, but as far as I know Starcraft 2 players tend to not have agents representing them. Therefore the players themselves are responsible for being on the lookout for opportunities that benefit them.

Puma is not an idiot, and does not need to be babied. Looking down on a team for approaching a player is a bit ridiculous.

mikesaysno

United States85 Posts

July 21 2011 11:54 GMT

#2503

I understand why EG would do something like this, but it definitely makes me think less of them as a team now. I guess I'm happy for Puma though if he actually thinks this is the right decision for him.

Ballack

Norway821 Posts

July 21 2011 11:55 GMT

#2504

I can't wait to hear veterans of the SC community discuss the ethics surrounding this transfer, looks a bit iffy from EG's pov in my opinion. I guess the only non-EG sponsored podcast is SotG, who is on break next tuesday... fml..

ePdeLay

Australia220 Posts

July 21 2011 11:56 GMT

#2505

EG = Real Madrid of starcraft

edc

United States666 Posts

July 21 2011 11:56 GMT

#2506

Wow, the manager must feel pretty sad after having his player taken away from him so spontaneously. Oh well, Puma has been doing great and I think Team EG found a good player.

AnalThermometer

Vatican City State334 Posts

July 21 2011 11:56 GMT

#2507

On July 21 2011 20:45 zolii wrote:
The "west is just buying out korean talent" is nothing new. Same stuff happens all the time in sports - take football for example - random teams and even national teams buy/nationalise foreigners because of they talent.

Such reaction to this situation just shows that majority of people coming here are detached from normal life and can't compare this to what is standard in other branches of life.

I don't see your point. Same thing happens all the time in football, guess what? Tons of people also hate it in football as well, except in that sport you might be physically threatened if you try to leave the team. Sane people who place loyalty above this kind of opportuntiy aren't detached from real life, they just have a different opninion. Stay classy.

Az0r_au

Australia385 Posts

July 21 2011 11:57 GMT

#2508

Maybe TSL should sign contracts and pay their up and coming players instead of expecting them to play for free.

gimmeateeshitkent

Australia80 Posts

July 21 2011 11:57 GMT

#2509

On July 21 2011 19:22 thedz wrote:

Show nested quote +

You mean to stop players from joining tournaments or teams that would ostensibly offer them more compensation and/or earnings? See: Gom BW tournaments, etc.

stop people from joining tournaments? gom wasnt kespa-sanctioned, but thats it. people still participated. gom had no reputation, so people like jaedong and flash would favour the msl and osl because they are competitive and winning golden badges/mice is the way you prove you are the best. i mean ffs, flash doesnt even see his money, he just lets his parents take care of it

i am a bit sad that gom didnt take off, although osl/msl + proleague is already hectic enough. wonder how well gom wouldve slotted in with that

King of Kings

Germany481 Posts

July 21 2011 11:57 GMT

#2510

So will PuMa go to the USA? If yes, he would not really improve without Koreans to train with.

RQShatter

United States459 Posts

July 21 2011 11:57 GMT

#2511

Sir Scoots is such trash.
Everything he does is so shady.

fearus

China2164 Posts

July 21 2011 11:58 GMT

#2512

Puma must be a Lebron fan.

Allscorpion

United Kingdom319 Posts

July 21 2011 11:59 GMT

#2513

PUMA is going to make idra the best player in the world.

starsucks

233 Posts

July 21 2011 11:59 GMT

#2514

On July 21 2011 20:50 twndomn wrote:
Hello~~ does Entourage ring the bell?

You're an agent for a future star, you pull gigs and all kind of strings for the potential star. The potential finally gets a chance to shoot a film, comes back and tell you that you're no longer his agent. How do you feel?

As an agent you normally sign a contract with your star in order to profit from your work as well. Why didn't he? And to be honest I fail to see any pulled gigs and strings for puma. He became well known after winning NASL. Maybe they paid his flight. That's all as it seems.

AmericanUmlaut

Germany2594 Posts

July 21 2011 12:00 GMT

#2515

On July 21 2011 20:46 TheSubtleArt wrote:
I wonder how this will affect Puma's training. Where does he practice now? It said he left the TSL house; is he just going practicing on the Korea ladder? I can't imagine him benefiting at all from practicing with the EG team, considering how much better he is than everyone on the team.

Well, Puma is well known for being one of the greatest all-time practice partners. Maybe the focus of the decision was more to provide the other members of EG the best possible XvT practice environment than to maximize Puma's training.

Obviously there's no information available on what EG is paying Puma, but I could imagine a situation in which they offered a stable salary that would be more attractive than the uncertain income of tournament wins. Plus, even without the ideal training environment, it's not like Puma's going to have trouble getting into the money in Western tournaments.

Fulla

United Kingdom519 Posts

July 21 2011 12:01 GMT

#2516

Well up to now it seems Puma was just a mere training partner for the pros?

Not exactly the most aspiring position. He was fortunate enough to get into the NASL and show us what he's made off.

But anyways if EG offered him a much better deal and living conditions what do TSL expect?

nazguljederpe

5 Posts

July 21 2011 12:02 GMT

#2517

Wow, EG is stepping it up. Good for them and good luck to puma in a new team.

TelecoM

United States10721 Posts

July 21 2011 12:03 GMT

#2518

IMO korean teams will stop sending they're best players to foreign events if they think foreign teams will continue to steal they're top players, just my speculation.

FairForever

Canada2392 Posts

July 21 2011 12:04 GMT

#2519

As long as there was no rule against it regarding Puma's "contract" with TSL, I don't see why it's an issue. I mean, no one seems to be complaining that STX has put up their whole roster for trade right? Team loyalty? Managers and coaches only use that excuse when convenient.

That being said, if it turns around and happens to EG they shouldn't expect anyone to be sobbing.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

July 21 2011 12:04 GMT

#2520

On July 21 2011 21:03 GGzerG wrote:
IMO korean teams will stop sending they're best players to foreign events if they think foreign teams will continue to steal they're top players, just my speculation.

They'll just be more strict about contracts. Where there is money to be won, they will be there.