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On July 19 2011 17:21 Executor1 wrote:
Wow this is huge, clearly sc2 is getting more popular in SK and OGN see's the market. This is awesome XD wish i lived in SK >< things seem to be on the up and up for sc2 over there right now.
Are you suggesting the rest of the world is not showing a huge growth?
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The tv stations MBC and OGN have invested a lot in their BW tournament capital. A lot of that capital would lose its value given consumer preference shift to other games. Hence their interest to maintain its popularity.
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On July 19 2011 21:43 xarthaz wrote:
The tv stations MBC and OGN have invested a lot in their BW tournament capital. A lot of that capital would lose its value given consumer preference shift to other games. Hence their interest to maintain its popularity.
So what are their BW tournament capital other than commentators. Except commentators often cast other stuff too quite often.
So, what's so BW specific?
Please stop making speculations
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On July 19 2011 21:40 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:38 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:32 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:14 Milkis wrote:
Augh.
Chances are Gom allowed WCG, for good reasons, broadcasting rights to the SC2 games. Since OGN broadcasts WCG in Korea, this is why OGN is broadcasting SC2. I tweeted about it since it wasn't stated on one of the articles I read despite other WCG games being stated to do so. Then I read a TIG article that stated it
You guys are reading FARRRRR too much into this. This is just a part of WCG. OGN can't do anything other than that since GOM has exclusive rights to broadcasting SC2 for 2 more years. nonetheless it is gonna be good measure of SC2 popularity in SK for OGN I'm pretty sure there are already pretty good measures of SC2 popularity in SK... it's not that popular =/ Blame MMORPGs i know, im not optimistic, at least they will have real numbers I think the PC bang numbers, and GOM viewer statistics are a more accurate gauge. That said because its on TV there is a good chance that people who don't watch SC2 will be watching it anyway, so maybe they can attract some new fans, although that raises the question over whether OGN will want to work particularly hard on this. Its in their interest for SC2 to fail, or at least not take off until they can broadcast it. Why would it be in their interest for SC2 to fail? I don't know why people give such polarizing opinions when it comes to bw/sc2 stuff but seriously it needs to stop especially if you're just making things up ~_~
I'm not making things up, I'm just speculating.
I would say that SC:BW is in competition with SC2. Not for everyone, but there will be viewers without the time to watch both, and OGN want those viewers.
OGN don't make much, if any money out of SC2, and they make money out of SC:BW, so I don't think they stand to gain much, currently, if SC2 has success, and they have the potential to lose out if people decided to start watching SC2 instead of BW.
That said, this is all speculation, I don't expect them to sabotage it, but I won't be surprised if we don't see a big fancy production.
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On July 19 2011 21:46 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:40 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:38 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:32 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:14 Milkis wrote:
Augh.
Chances are Gom allowed WCG, for good reasons, broadcasting rights to the SC2 games. Since OGN broadcasts WCG in Korea, this is why OGN is broadcasting SC2. I tweeted about it since it wasn't stated on one of the articles I read despite other WCG games being stated to do so. Then I read a TIG article that stated it
You guys are reading FARRRRR too much into this. This is just a part of WCG. OGN can't do anything other than that since GOM has exclusive rights to broadcasting SC2 for 2 more years. nonetheless it is gonna be good measure of SC2 popularity in SK for OGN I'm pretty sure there are already pretty good measures of SC2 popularity in SK... it's not that popular =/ Blame MMORPGs i know, im not optimistic, at least they will have real numbers I think the PC bang numbers, and GOM viewer statistics are a more accurate gauge. That said because its on TV there is a good chance that people who don't watch SC2 will be watching it anyway, so maybe they can attract some new fans, although that raises the question over whether OGN will want to work particularly hard on this. Its in their interest for SC2 to fail, or at least not take off until they can broadcast it. Why would it be in their interest for SC2 to fail? I don't know why people give such polarizing opinions when it comes to bw/sc2 stuff but seriously it needs to stop especially if you're just making things up ~_~ I'm not making things up, I'm just speculating. I would say that SC:BW is in competition with SC2. Not for everyone, but there will be viewers without the time to watch both, and OGN want those viewers. OGN don't make much, if any money out of SC2, and they make money out of SC:BW, so I don't think they stand to gain much, currently, if SC2 has success, and they have the potential to lose out if people decided to start watching SC2 instead of BW. That said, this is all speculation, I don't expect them to sabotage it, but I won't be surprised if we don't see a big fancy production.
They dont' do a big fancy production for WCG BW, why would you expect anything special from WCG SC2?
BW is far from being in competition with SC2 -- SC2 popularity is a joke in Korea. OGN is still one of the highest ranked cable channels from BW alone.
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hooray
broadcast form any non gom tv in korea is great and a step forward!!!
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On July 19 2011 21:48 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:46 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:40 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:38 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:32 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:14 Milkis wrote:
Augh.
Chances are Gom allowed WCG, for good reasons, broadcasting rights to the SC2 games. Since OGN broadcasts WCG in Korea, this is why OGN is broadcasting SC2. I tweeted about it since it wasn't stated on one of the articles I read despite other WCG games being stated to do so. Then I read a TIG article that stated it
You guys are reading FARRRRR too much into this. This is just a part of WCG. OGN can't do anything other than that since GOM has exclusive rights to broadcasting SC2 for 2 more years. nonetheless it is gonna be good measure of SC2 popularity in SK for OGN I'm pretty sure there are already pretty good measures of SC2 popularity in SK... it's not that popular =/ Blame MMORPGs i know, im not optimistic, at least they will have real numbers I think the PC bang numbers, and GOM viewer statistics are a more accurate gauge. That said because its on TV there is a good chance that people who don't watch SC2 will be watching it anyway, so maybe they can attract some new fans, although that raises the question over whether OGN will want to work particularly hard on this. Its in their interest for SC2 to fail, or at least not take off until they can broadcast it. Why would it be in their interest for SC2 to fail? I don't know why people give such polarizing opinions when it comes to bw/sc2 stuff but seriously it needs to stop especially if you're just making things up ~_~ I'm not making things up, I'm just speculating. I would say that SC:BW is in competition with SC2. Not for everyone, but there will be viewers without the time to watch both, and OGN want those viewers. OGN don't make much, if any money out of SC2, and they make money out of SC:BW, so I don't think they stand to gain much, currently, if SC2 has success, and they have the potential to lose out if people decided to start watching SC2 instead of BW. That said, this is all speculation, I don't expect them to sabotage it, but I won't be surprised if we don't see a big fancy production. They dont' do a big fancy production for WCG BW, why would you expect anything special from WCG SC2? BW is far from being in competition with SC2 -- SC2 popularity is a joke in Korea. OGN is still one of the highest ranked cable channels from BW alone.
All I'm saying is that they don't want to lose viewers. And I feel that SC2 gaining popularity is potentially a way for them to lose viewers for BW.
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Stop making silly assumptions.
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On July 19 2011 21:53 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:48 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:46 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:40 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:38 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:32 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:14 Milkis wrote:
Augh.
Chances are Gom allowed WCG, for good reasons, broadcasting rights to the SC2 games. Since OGN broadcasts WCG in Korea, this is why OGN is broadcasting SC2. I tweeted about it since it wasn't stated on one of the articles I read despite other WCG games being stated to do so. Then I read a TIG article that stated it
You guys are reading FARRRRR too much into this. This is just a part of WCG. OGN can't do anything other than that since GOM has exclusive rights to broadcasting SC2 for 2 more years. nonetheless it is gonna be good measure of SC2 popularity in SK for OGN I'm pretty sure there are already pretty good measures of SC2 popularity in SK... it's not that popular =/ Blame MMORPGs i know, im not optimistic, at least they will have real numbers I think the PC bang numbers, and GOM viewer statistics are a more accurate gauge. That said because its on TV there is a good chance that people who don't watch SC2 will be watching it anyway, so maybe they can attract some new fans, although that raises the question over whether OGN will want to work particularly hard on this. Its in their interest for SC2 to fail, or at least not take off until they can broadcast it. Why would it be in their interest for SC2 to fail? I don't know why people give such polarizing opinions when it comes to bw/sc2 stuff but seriously it needs to stop especially if you're just making things up ~_~ I'm not making things up, I'm just speculating. I would say that SC:BW is in competition with SC2. Not for everyone, but there will be viewers without the time to watch both, and OGN want those viewers. OGN don't make much, if any money out of SC2, and they make money out of SC:BW, so I don't think they stand to gain much, currently, if SC2 has success, and they have the potential to lose out if people decided to start watching SC2 instead of BW. That said, this is all speculation, I don't expect them to sabotage it, but I won't be surprised if we don't see a big fancy production. They dont' do a big fancy production for WCG BW, why would you expect anything special from WCG SC2? BW is far from being in competition with SC2 -- SC2 popularity is a joke in Korea. OGN is still one of the highest ranked cable channels from BW alone. All I'm saying is that they don't want to lose viewers. And I feel that SC2 gaining popularity is potentially a way for them to lose viewers for BW.
Trust me at this point everyone wants SC2 to get more popular
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On July 19 2011 21:46 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:43 xarthaz wrote:
The tv stations MBC and OGN have invested a lot in their BW tournament capital. A lot of that capital would lose its value given consumer preference shift to other games. Hence their interest to maintain its popularity. So what are their BW tournament capital other than commentators. Except commentators often cast other stuff too quite often. So, what's so BW specific? Please stop making speculations broadcasting setup accomodated to bw(software, capturing, overlays, gfx, database engine with bw accomodated backend), props, artistic content and advertisement brand creation, logistics and established business relations with suppliers, renting. And so on.
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wonder how many people will rock up to yongsan to watch the sc2 games.
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SC2 popularity would be higher if you didnt have to pay for an account in order to play, quite easy.
PC bangs only needed to have BW installed and running on lan for kids to go play it, it's not the same case with SC2 yet.
When that comes, maybe it will get AS popular. Right now it's only for those willing to spend the money.
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On July 19 2011 22:10 Usagi wrote:
SC2 popularity would be higher if you didnt have to pay for an account in order to play, quite easy.
PC bangs only needed to have BW installed and running on lan for kids to go play it, it's not the same case with SC2 yet.
When that comes, maybe it will get AS popular. Right now it's only for those willing to spend the money.
SC2 was free in Korea for like 3 months
didnt get that much more popular
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On July 19 2011 22:40 Trowa127 wrote:
Milkis on a rampage
More like he's putting fools in their place.
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yay, now let's hope sc2 gets some much needed attention from the koreans
i'm tired of seeing amazing games then they cut to the crowd and it's like 10 white guys and some korean chick :/
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On July 19 2011 21:57 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:53 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:48 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:46 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:40 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:38 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:32 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:14 Milkis wrote:
Augh.
Chances are Gom allowed WCG, for good reasons, broadcasting rights to the SC2 games. Since OGN broadcasts WCG in Korea, this is why OGN is broadcasting SC2. I tweeted about it since it wasn't stated on one of the articles I read despite other WCG games being stated to do so. Then I read a TIG article that stated it
You guys are reading FARRRRR too much into this. This is just a part of WCG. OGN can't do anything other than that since GOM has exclusive rights to broadcasting SC2 for 2 more years. nonetheless it is gonna be good measure of SC2 popularity in SK for OGN I'm pretty sure there are already pretty good measures of SC2 popularity in SK... it's not that popular =/ Blame MMORPGs i know, im not optimistic, at least they will have real numbers I think the PC bang numbers, and GOM viewer statistics are a more accurate gauge. That said because its on TV there is a good chance that people who don't watch SC2 will be watching it anyway, so maybe they can attract some new fans, although that raises the question over whether OGN will want to work particularly hard on this. Its in their interest for SC2 to fail, or at least not take off until they can broadcast it. Why would it be in their interest for SC2 to fail? I don't know why people give such polarizing opinions when it comes to bw/sc2 stuff but seriously it needs to stop especially if you're just making things up ~_~ I'm not making things up, I'm just speculating. I would say that SC:BW is in competition with SC2. Not for everyone, but there will be viewers without the time to watch both, and OGN want those viewers. OGN don't make much, if any money out of SC2, and they make money out of SC:BW, so I don't think they stand to gain much, currently, if SC2 has success, and they have the potential to lose out if people decided to start watching SC2 instead of BW. That said, this is all speculation, I don't expect them to sabotage it, but I won't be surprised if we don't see a big fancy production. They dont' do a big fancy production for WCG BW, why would you expect anything special from WCG SC2? BW is far from being in competition with SC2 -- SC2 popularity is a joke in Korea. OGN is still one of the highest ranked cable channels from BW alone. All I'm saying is that they don't want to lose viewers. And I feel that SC2 gaining popularity is potentially a way for them to lose viewers for BW. Trust me at this point everyone wants SC2 to get more popular
Even you have to admit, that this is in part, due to BW being dropped from WCG.
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On July 19 2011 22:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:More like he's putting fools in their place.
That is what I meant, heh.
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On July 19 2011 22:35 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 22:10 Usagi wrote:
SC2 popularity would be higher if you didnt have to pay for an account in order to play, quite easy.
PC bangs only needed to have BW installed and running on lan for kids to go play it, it's not the same case with SC2 yet.
When that comes, maybe it will get AS popular. Right now it's only for those willing to spend the money. SC2 was free in Korea for like 3 months didnt get that much more popular
i dont understand it so if you were Korean you can get the game free if you ordered it in this 3 months period, or you can play 3 months free. Because if you get a 3 months trial it doesnt mean everyone will understand the game and will like it. Especially in korea because the TV is a big deal. So if starcraft 2 was free from the begining (just like League of Legends) now we can count duoble or triple more gamer imo. But not in kor cuz if they cant see on the tv its means its not an esport. So the free things doesnt really matters in kor, if the TV dont broadcast it.
to the post:
I think its a great news, and the first step to make sc2 big in korea even if it wont be first. Im sure about it wont get thousands of kors to sc but in long way it will help.
sorry for my english.
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On July 19 2011 22:45 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 21:57 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:53 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:48 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:46 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:40 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:38 Eufouria wrote:On July 19 2011 21:32 bgx wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 21:23 bgx wrote:
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nonetheless it is gonna be good measure of SC2 popularity in SK for OGN I'm pretty sure there are already pretty good measures of SC2 popularity in SK... it's not that popular =/ Blame MMORPGs i know, im not optimistic, at least they will have real numbers I think the PC bang numbers, and GOM viewer statistics are a more accurate gauge. That said because its on TV there is a good chance that people who don't watch SC2 will be watching it anyway, so maybe they can attract some new fans, although that raises the question over whether OGN will want to work particularly hard on this. Its in their interest for SC2 to fail, or at least not take off until they can broadcast it. Why would it be in their interest for SC2 to fail? I don't know why people give such polarizing opinions when it comes to bw/sc2 stuff but seriously it needs to stop especially if you're just making things up ~_~ I'm not making things up, I'm just speculating. I would say that SC:BW is in competition with SC2. Not for everyone, but there will be viewers without the time to watch both, and OGN want those viewers. OGN don't make much, if any money out of SC2, and they make money out of SC:BW, so I don't think they stand to gain much, currently, if SC2 has success, and they have the potential to lose out if people decided to start watching SC2 instead of BW. That said, this is all speculation, I don't expect them to sabotage it, but I won't be surprised if we don't see a big fancy production. They dont' do a big fancy production for WCG BW, why would you expect anything special from WCG SC2? BW is far from being in competition with SC2 -- SC2 popularity is a joke in Korea. OGN is still one of the highest ranked cable channels from BW alone. All I'm saying is that they don't want to lose viewers. And I feel that SC2 gaining popularity is potentially a way for them to lose viewers for BW. Trust me at this point everyone wants SC2 to get more popular Even you have to admit, that this is in part, due to BW being dropped from WCG.
...no? Why would that affect things in anyway? WCG is just an event match where Koreans go and destroy everyone, it doesnt mean anything for future of BW.
On July 19 2011 22:50 Atlasy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 22:35 Milkis wrote:On July 19 2011 22:10 Usagi wrote:
SC2 popularity would be higher if you didnt have to pay for an account in order to play, quite easy.
PC bangs only needed to have BW installed and running on lan for kids to go play it, it's not the same case with SC2 yet.
When that comes, maybe it will get AS popular. Right now it's only for those willing to spend the money. SC2 was free in Korea for like 3 months didnt get that much more popular i dont understand it so if you were Korean you can get the game free if you ordered it in this 3 months period, or you can play 3 months free. Because if you get a 3 months trial it doesnt mean everyone will understand the game and will like it. Especially in korea because the TV is a big deal. So if starcraft 2 was free from the begining (just like League of Legends) now we can count duoble or triple more gamer imo. But not in kor cuz if they cant see on the tv its means its not an esport. So the free things doesnt really matters in kor, if the TV dont broadcast it. to the post: I think its a great news, and the first step to make sc2 big in korea even if it wont be first. Im sure about it wont get thousands of kors to sc but in long way it will help. sorry for my english.
Basically when SC2 came out in Korea, they put the game up for "Open Beta" (it wasn't a beta, really, cause the game had been released at that point) for a long time. During that time any korean can sign up for bnet accounts and play SC2 for free. They ended that period but yeah, it didn't really help sc2 take off or anything.
Not sure if they still have the promotion if you pay for WoW you have access to Sc2 battlenet still, but yeah. Blizzard ran a lot of promotions in Korea to try and get it popular.
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