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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
July 20 2011 21:12 GMT
#1301
This whole situation makes me really sad, more so for humanity in general. It's kind of funny thinking about all this recent talk of growing eSports into something huge and yet we treat our own community members like complete shit for no reason and act like a pack of sex starved, demented 13 year olds who got a hold of Xbox Live and never let go. As others have said, things like this are different in Korea, they won't just get bored and move on like most other places in the world, especially since this girl is just starting out - this could potentially last years and years.

I love that Jessica is doing what she can to protect Eve and I don't think she is overreacting at all, often times I myself wish there were more accountability for online actions in the US. But that's another topic for another day.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
July 20 2011 21:12 GMT
#1302
On July 21 2011 06:11 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 06:09 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 06:08 JinDesu wrote:
On July 21 2011 06:04 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:58 babylon wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:24 ranshaked wrote:
If you can't take the heat, take the back seat. This stuff happens everywhere. In every business, school, event, etc. Trolling, anger and jealousy will always arise, but you have to learn to take it and move on.

I think someone else has already said it best, so I'll repost this:

On July 20 2011 13:40 Crisco wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
if you understood the severity of korean netizen criticisms & lewd remarks against famous individuals (celebrities & etc) you would understand half of why Jessica is doing what she has done. Unfortunately, Korean netizen's comments are lewd, critical and harsh to the point that the likes of most forums would look like a holy scripture. It is not only that, but the way most of the comments are worded. Often times, these posts/comments are not just a comment about the particular individual but a deconstruction of the individual as a human being into objects of worth (sexually) and lack of worth (ability wise).

These comments are NOT simply "she sucks, why are you taking her in" or "I would love to bang her".. it is more like "hey, why don't you stop singing and just take off your clothes" or "God you suck, please hang yourself."

The comments of Korean netizens are heavily responsible for at least 1-2 high-profile suicides a year AT LEAST. In other words, every 6 months, the mob's dehumanizing of certain "selected" individuals plays a significant role which leads to suicides or suicide attempts. This is one of the biggest reasons such a law was enforced in Korea.

The likes of such actions AND consequences do not really exist anywhere else in the world as far as I am aware.

someone in the forums asked why Jessica, a celebrity/actress, would not have more control and be willing to ignore the trolls and the reason is BECAUSE she is an actress. She knows, better than anyone, how damaging these criticisms can be. They don't just post in their own forums, might I add. In certain situations, I've seen these people storm to the actress/celebrities' WEBSITE and post things like "hey, your singing is awful, you should hang yourself" and "why bother singing, when you can just show your breasts." Why not censor it in their website? In that particular occasion, it was posted so often & so frequently that a person would have to be deleting all day 24/7.

People's careers literally get ruined over this every year. Sometimes, you really can't ignore them and hope they disappear, because they will just keep at it even if it's absolutely ridiculous. Sometimes ignoring them is the worst way to go about it, and I think Jessica recognizes that, especially in Eve's case, because her career is just starting.

I don't approve of some of Jessica's decisions - namely, putting Eve on the bench at the GSTL when she's only a trainee and won't play for several weeks - but the community's reaction to SlayerS recruiting Eve is fucking disgusting for the most part. No, Jessica shouldn't have put her on the bench, but that doesn't justify treating Eve like shit when she hasn't done anything to warrant such behavior - and I honestly don't think that having your face photoshopped to the body of a porn star is in any way acceptable under any circumstance. Nobody has even seen her play, for god's sake, and yet, quite a lot of people are already attacking her simply for being on the damn team.

Furthermore, just because it happens doesn't make it right, and I'm shocked that more people just can't grasp this concept.
And I do not think you grasp the concept of celebredome *totally made that up* in the sense that this has gone on forever. You cannot take this stuff personal. Who cares if someone says "You should get naked and do this" Honestly who cares?


The koreans care. Why don't you go over there and tell them your philosophy. Maybe it'll make them not care so much about their image being tarnished.
Well they are only making it harsh on themselves in that case. Which makes them retarded.


Good, let's chalk up every cultural difference that we don't approve of as "retarded".

In this case, yes. I understand that their culture is different, but you have to "grow up"
freddyy
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden56 Posts
July 20 2011 21:13 GMT
#1303
On July 21 2011 06:04 ranshaked wrote:
Who cares if someone says "You should get naked and do this" Honestly who cares?


As was mentioned in SotG, Korea has a high suicide rate amongst celebrities because of this. So obviously they care. And don't tell me that people being harassed to the degree that they take their own life is a thing that we should learn to live with.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
July 20 2011 21:15 GMT
#1304
On July 21 2011 06:13 freddyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 06:04 ranshaked wrote:
Who cares if someone says "You should get naked and do this" Honestly who cares?


As was mentioned in SotG, Korea has a high suicide rate amongst celebrities because of this. So obviously they care. And don't tell me that people being harassed to the degree that they take their own life is a thing that we should learn to live with.

There's something wrong with those people if they are committing suicide. Suicide is the most selfish and disrespectful act you can pull. Obviously the celebrities in Korea need to learn to cope better with this stuff. Maybe they should come to the US and learn how to handle it.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 20 2011 21:15 GMT
#1305
On July 21 2011 06:03 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 05:50 MVega wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:36 oniontaker wrote:
Jessica will be releasing a statement directly to TL or twitter in the coming hours.

I wasn't aware of the full situation myself but having read parts of it just now, the clarification it brings makes the OP of this thread redundant. It seems that TL members have been misled.


Can't wait to read this statement. Hopefully you're right. Though honestly I'm a little appalled at how willing people in this thread seem to be to accept harassment.


It happens to celebrities or people in the lime-light, it's not okay but it's not a big deal considering the advantages or relative success that these people experience, dumb shit like this shouldn't affect them. I may have been slightly more irked if it were someone under-age but honestly at that age how difficult is it to look past this nonsense and say, "I'm on one of the best Starcraft 2 teams in the world, recruited out of gold league, I sat next to a pretty famous coach at the GSTL at the player's bench, life's good, people must be envious as hell"?

I don't feel too bad for her, I don't feel bad for Beiber when I see some random jackass posting about the size of his penis, I'm sure there are tons of photoshopped pictures of him blowing dudes, taking it from behind... Blowing dudes while taking it from behind. Who gives a fuck? Even at his age people would be envious as fuck, it comes with being in the spotlight in entertainment. I'd really only feel bad for children who have it thrust upon them at young age and have to deal with it growing up...

She's 21, look the fuck past it. Report anyone making threats or attempting to defraud you, you don't need a mother-figure manager going after anyone who says anything mean with a vengeance. Jessica is absolutely over-reacting which is quite surprising particularly how she's parading it under her statements of protecting children from abuse. This is where I feel there may be a number of cultural aspects I'm not understanding. I'm sure Jessica is under a lot of stress but her response so far has been a little off-putting to me.


I can´t say I agree. Basically you are saying that because they are succesful they should have to take in all the crap from little idiots from the internet?

Sorry, but as i see it the cowards are those who hide behind a computer and easily bash and insult people they don´t even know. My respects for Jessica for being brave and standing up to internet warriors.

They are humans too and they have the right to defend themeselves.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 20 2011 21:16 GMT
#1306
On July 21 2011 06:04 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 05:58 babylon wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:24 ranshaked wrote:
If you can't take the heat, take the back seat. This stuff happens everywhere. In every business, school, event, etc. Trolling, anger and jealousy will always arise, but you have to learn to take it and move on.

I think someone else has already said it best, so I'll repost this:

On July 20 2011 13:40 Crisco wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
if you understood the severity of korean netizen criticisms & lewd remarks against famous individuals (celebrities & etc) you would understand half of why Jessica is doing what she has done. Unfortunately, Korean netizen's comments are lewd, critical and harsh to the point that the likes of most forums would look like a holy scripture. It is not only that, but the way most of the comments are worded. Often times, these posts/comments are not just a comment about the particular individual but a deconstruction of the individual as a human being into objects of worth (sexually) and lack of worth (ability wise).

These comments are NOT simply "she sucks, why are you taking her in" or "I would love to bang her".. it is more like "hey, why don't you stop singing and just take off your clothes" or "God you suck, please hang yourself."

The comments of Korean netizens are heavily responsible for at least 1-2 high-profile suicides a year AT LEAST. In other words, every 6 months, the mob's dehumanizing of certain "selected" individuals plays a significant role which leads to suicides or suicide attempts. This is one of the biggest reasons such a law was enforced in Korea.

The likes of such actions AND consequences do not really exist anywhere else in the world as far as I am aware.

someone in the forums asked why Jessica, a celebrity/actress, would not have more control and be willing to ignore the trolls and the reason is BECAUSE she is an actress. She knows, better than anyone, how damaging these criticisms can be. They don't just post in their own forums, might I add. In certain situations, I've seen these people storm to the actress/celebrities' WEBSITE and post things like "hey, your singing is awful, you should hang yourself" and "why bother singing, when you can just show your breasts." Why not censor it in their website? In that particular occasion, it was posted so often & so frequently that a person would have to be deleting all day 24/7.

People's careers literally get ruined over this every year. Sometimes, you really can't ignore them and hope they disappear, because they will just keep at it even if it's absolutely ridiculous. Sometimes ignoring them is the worst way to go about it, and I think Jessica recognizes that, especially in Eve's case, because her career is just starting.

I don't approve of some of Jessica's decisions - namely, putting Eve on the bench at the GSTL when she's only a trainee and won't play for several weeks - but the community's reaction to SlayerS recruiting Eve is fucking disgusting for the most part. No, Jessica shouldn't have put her on the bench, but that doesn't justify treating Eve like shit when she hasn't done anything to warrant such behavior - and I honestly don't think that having your face photoshopped to the body of a porn star is in any way acceptable under any circumstance. Nobody has even seen her play, for god's sake, and yet, quite a lot of people are already attacking her simply for being on the damn team.

Furthermore, just because it happens doesn't make it right, and I'm shocked that more people just can't grasp this concept.
And I do not think you grasp the concept of celebredome *totally made that up* in the sense that this has gone on forever. You cannot take this stuff personal. Who cares if someone says "You should get naked and do this" Honestly who cares?

Okay, put it this way:

Someone on the street calls me a chink. I'm fine with that, because you know what? Whatever. Fuck them. Who cares, right? I'm never going to see the bastard again in my lifetime, probably. No use worrying about it.

But just because I can deal with it or that I choose to deal with it doesn't mean that others can't be hurt by that slur or that they shouldn't protest the use of that term. You are not everyone, everyone is not you, and people deal with pressure and insults differently based on a number of different factors, including culture, which I think is a big factor here.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
July 20 2011 21:18 GMT
#1307
On July 21 2011 06:16 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 06:04 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:58 babylon wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:24 ranshaked wrote:
If you can't take the heat, take the back seat. This stuff happens everywhere. In every business, school, event, etc. Trolling, anger and jealousy will always arise, but you have to learn to take it and move on.

I think someone else has already said it best, so I'll repost this:

On July 20 2011 13:40 Crisco wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
if you understood the severity of korean netizen criticisms & lewd remarks against famous individuals (celebrities & etc) you would understand half of why Jessica is doing what she has done. Unfortunately, Korean netizen's comments are lewd, critical and harsh to the point that the likes of most forums would look like a holy scripture. It is not only that, but the way most of the comments are worded. Often times, these posts/comments are not just a comment about the particular individual but a deconstruction of the individual as a human being into objects of worth (sexually) and lack of worth (ability wise).

These comments are NOT simply "she sucks, why are you taking her in" or "I would love to bang her".. it is more like "hey, why don't you stop singing and just take off your clothes" or "God you suck, please hang yourself."

The comments of Korean netizens are heavily responsible for at least 1-2 high-profile suicides a year AT LEAST. In other words, every 6 months, the mob's dehumanizing of certain "selected" individuals plays a significant role which leads to suicides or suicide attempts. This is one of the biggest reasons such a law was enforced in Korea.

The likes of such actions AND consequences do not really exist anywhere else in the world as far as I am aware.

someone in the forums asked why Jessica, a celebrity/actress, would not have more control and be willing to ignore the trolls and the reason is BECAUSE she is an actress. She knows, better than anyone, how damaging these criticisms can be. They don't just post in their own forums, might I add. In certain situations, I've seen these people storm to the actress/celebrities' WEBSITE and post things like "hey, your singing is awful, you should hang yourself" and "why bother singing, when you can just show your breasts." Why not censor it in their website? In that particular occasion, it was posted so often & so frequently that a person would have to be deleting all day 24/7.

People's careers literally get ruined over this every year. Sometimes, you really can't ignore them and hope they disappear, because they will just keep at it even if it's absolutely ridiculous. Sometimes ignoring them is the worst way to go about it, and I think Jessica recognizes that, especially in Eve's case, because her career is just starting.

I don't approve of some of Jessica's decisions - namely, putting Eve on the bench at the GSTL when she's only a trainee and won't play for several weeks - but the community's reaction to SlayerS recruiting Eve is fucking disgusting for the most part. No, Jessica shouldn't have put her on the bench, but that doesn't justify treating Eve like shit when she hasn't done anything to warrant such behavior - and I honestly don't think that having your face photoshopped to the body of a porn star is in any way acceptable under any circumstance. Nobody has even seen her play, for god's sake, and yet, quite a lot of people are already attacking her simply for being on the damn team.

Furthermore, just because it happens doesn't make it right, and I'm shocked that more people just can't grasp this concept.
And I do not think you grasp the concept of celebredome *totally made that up* in the sense that this has gone on forever. You cannot take this stuff personal. Who cares if someone says "You should get naked and do this" Honestly who cares?

Okay, put it this way:

Someone on the street calls me a chink. I'm fine with that, because you know what? Whatever. Fuck them. Who cares, right? I'm never going to see the bastard again in my lifetime, probably. No use worrying about it.

But just because I can deal with it or that I choose to deal with it doesn't mean that others can't be hurt by that slur or that they shouldn't protest the use of that term. You are not everyone, everyone is not you, and people deal with pressure and insults differently based on a number of different factors, including culture, which I think is a big factor here.

I guess it is because I was "picked" on as a child that this stuff doesn't directly hurt me. I will never meet these people, nor do I care what other people think of me. Obviously celebrities have an image that they feel they must up-hold for their fans, instead of just doing them and saying "Fuck everyone else"
Sumwar
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada199 Posts
July 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#1308
I think someone going to prison for saying something other than a death threat or something equivalent to a death threat is ridiculous. I can't believe people in Korea print out pages of comments from the internet and can take them to the police. If we could do that in Canada all I would have to do is go to Youtube and thousands would be imprisoned.

I wonder if anyone actually ends up going to prison over this or this is just a bunch of overhyped accusations that lead to no real punishments.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
July 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#1309
On July 21 2011 06:18 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 06:16 babylon wrote:
On July 21 2011 06:04 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:58 babylon wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:24 ranshaked wrote:
If you can't take the heat, take the back seat. This stuff happens everywhere. In every business, school, event, etc. Trolling, anger and jealousy will always arise, but you have to learn to take it and move on.

I think someone else has already said it best, so I'll repost this:

On July 20 2011 13:40 Crisco wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
if you understood the severity of korean netizen criticisms & lewd remarks against famous individuals (celebrities & etc) you would understand half of why Jessica is doing what she has done. Unfortunately, Korean netizen's comments are lewd, critical and harsh to the point that the likes of most forums would look like a holy scripture. It is not only that, but the way most of the comments are worded. Often times, these posts/comments are not just a comment about the particular individual but a deconstruction of the individual as a human being into objects of worth (sexually) and lack of worth (ability wise).

These comments are NOT simply "she sucks, why are you taking her in" or "I would love to bang her".. it is more like "hey, why don't you stop singing and just take off your clothes" or "God you suck, please hang yourself."

The comments of Korean netizens are heavily responsible for at least 1-2 high-profile suicides a year AT LEAST. In other words, every 6 months, the mob's dehumanizing of certain "selected" individuals plays a significant role which leads to suicides or suicide attempts. This is one of the biggest reasons such a law was enforced in Korea.

The likes of such actions AND consequences do not really exist anywhere else in the world as far as I am aware.

someone in the forums asked why Jessica, a celebrity/actress, would not have more control and be willing to ignore the trolls and the reason is BECAUSE she is an actress. She knows, better than anyone, how damaging these criticisms can be. They don't just post in their own forums, might I add. In certain situations, I've seen these people storm to the actress/celebrities' WEBSITE and post things like "hey, your singing is awful, you should hang yourself" and "why bother singing, when you can just show your breasts." Why not censor it in their website? In that particular occasion, it was posted so often & so frequently that a person would have to be deleting all day 24/7.

People's careers literally get ruined over this every year. Sometimes, you really can't ignore them and hope they disappear, because they will just keep at it even if it's absolutely ridiculous. Sometimes ignoring them is the worst way to go about it, and I think Jessica recognizes that, especially in Eve's case, because her career is just starting.

I don't approve of some of Jessica's decisions - namely, putting Eve on the bench at the GSTL when she's only a trainee and won't play for several weeks - but the community's reaction to SlayerS recruiting Eve is fucking disgusting for the most part. No, Jessica shouldn't have put her on the bench, but that doesn't justify treating Eve like shit when she hasn't done anything to warrant such behavior - and I honestly don't think that having your face photoshopped to the body of a porn star is in any way acceptable under any circumstance. Nobody has even seen her play, for god's sake, and yet, quite a lot of people are already attacking her simply for being on the damn team.

Furthermore, just because it happens doesn't make it right, and I'm shocked that more people just can't grasp this concept.
And I do not think you grasp the concept of celebredome *totally made that up* in the sense that this has gone on forever. You cannot take this stuff personal. Who cares if someone says "You should get naked and do this" Honestly who cares?

Okay, put it this way:

Someone on the street calls me a chink. I'm fine with that, because you know what? Whatever. Fuck them. Who cares, right? I'm never going to see the bastard again in my lifetime, probably. No use worrying about it.

But just because I can deal with it or that I choose to deal with it doesn't mean that others can't be hurt by that slur or that they shouldn't protest the use of that term. You are not everyone, everyone is not you, and people deal with pressure and insults differently based on a number of different factors, including culture, which I think is a big factor here.

I guess it is because I was "picked" on as a child that this stuff doesn't directly hurt me. I will never meet these people, nor do I care what other people think of me. Obviously celebrities have an image that they feel they must up-hold for their fans, instead of just doing them and saying "Fuck everyone else"


Or because you have a completely different situation? Let's say your image is what you are living off (well technically here it's the game skill, but if she can't appear on a televised game at all thanks to having a ruined image, then she might as well not make a living). And now it's being smeared, and the general public (being so easily influenced as all general publics are) shun you, call for sponsors to drop you, etc.

Suddenly you are out of work, you can't find new work (who wants a little whore to be part of their team?), you are young (she's 22), probably can't find a guy who will want her (relationships in the asian countries are a lot more strict), and all you did was be a girl on a pro-gaming team.

Oh. Well I guess it's different than being picked on as a kid, but not actually suffering any damage.

Wait, there are kids here in the U.S. who do get picked on, suffer major emotional damage, end up hurting themselves or others. I guess it isn't so different after all. Except that Asian countries are generally more strict about everything.
Yargh
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 21:25:21
July 20 2011 21:24 GMT
#1310
On July 21 2011 05:14 babylon wrote:

Anyways, I find it funny that TL was behind her when she was defending Boxer after that one article was published, .

That one article was a real article though, like in real media.
These comments are just random comments.
This is just the same as if every single youtube user went down and delivered all their negative comments to the police and I don't see any way I could look at that and say it wouldn't be completely retarded.

I just think everyone who takes random comments that seriously is overreacting.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
July 20 2011 21:25 GMT
#1311
Please close this thread. The proponents against the slayerS women are borderline sexist and lacks any form of human decency.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
July 20 2011 21:25 GMT
#1312
You have PR people that handle it the proper way if it is smearing you.
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 21:33:06
July 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#1313
On July 21 2011 06:25 ranshaked wrote:
You have PR people that handle it the proper way if it is smearing you.


In my opinion, hiding behind PR would only cause people to label Jessica as a coward. Jessica did the right thing in my opinion. Brave of her, and society may mock her, but something that few people are able to do.

If I was in Eve's situation, I don't think I would be able to handle it well either, and I am a guy. How quickly we type, and how our mouths flap when we judge others!\

@archoOid You are right, but say it as it is. It isn't borderline sexist, this thread is rampant with sexism. It's disgusting.
I post only when my brain works.
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
July 20 2011 21:35 GMT
#1314
Slayers_jessica overreacted to Boxer fans and Yellow for calling Boxer washed up. As far as im concerned, she may be overzealous and should be warned by police, and if there is a second occurance she should be charged on the spot for wasting Police's resources and time.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
July 20 2011 21:36 GMT
#1315
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 21 2011 05:44 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 05:29 RaLakedaimon wrote:
On July 21 2011 05:24 ranshaked wrote:
If you can't take the heat, take the back seat. This stuff happens everywhere. In every business, school, event, etc. Trolling, anger and jealousy will always arise, but you have to learn to take it and move on.


Yeah but as a female kind of in the spotlight right now would you say its cool for her coach to let it slide that people are putting her face on pictures of nude models? Gotta admit if I was a chick and someone was doing that I would probably flip out and leave the gaming scene completely, there's only so much a person can handle. Name callings one thing but that stuff is very strange imo.

It happens every day. Think about our celebrities today. The UK is notorious for taking the faces of others and putting them on nude bodies. When you're in the spotlight, it's how it goes. It's happened for years and years. Look at roman history for instance, you have two things that happened. Julius Caesar' and Clodius Pulcher disliked one another. The rumors spread that Pulcher was banging caesar' wife, but Caesar handled it like a gentleman, while Pulcher made himself look like a fool. You need to know how to handle certain situations.

That sounds more like you just don't care because its happened in the past, that has nothing to do with it being wrong because it is. People are also rapped every day and have been throughout history so that's like saying we shouldn't combat it because its something that happens all the time lol. Sure this is less extreme but there is nothing wrong with protecting those who you have some oversight over, this is her coach, if she didn't do something than I would say there would be a real problem. But just because things happen and have happened often before does not take away from the wrong in doing it and the fact it should be punished if it can be.
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
July 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#1316
On July 21 2011 06:15 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 06:13 freddyy wrote:
On July 21 2011 06:04 ranshaked wrote:
Who cares if someone says "You should get naked and do this" Honestly who cares?


As was mentioned in SotG, Korea has a high suicide rate amongst celebrities because of this. So obviously they care. And don't tell me that people being harassed to the degree that they take their own life is a thing that we should learn to live with.

There's something wrong with those people if they are committing suicide. Suicide is the most selfish and disrespectful act you can pull. Obviously the celebrities in Korea need to learn to cope better with this stuff. Maybe they should come to the US and learn how to handle it.


maybe people dont wanna learn to have to live with being verbally harassed online? shit us americans take this free speech crap too seriously. maybe we should all learn to only say things that we would say if it was to som1s face.

a lotta ppl are gonna say that jessica is overreacting cus online bullying is so common and u can jus ignore it. well, jus cus its common doesnt make it right and doesnt meant its ur responsibility to have to ignore it. most of the time its fine cus ppl dont care, but when the person being harassed cares, then hey it should become an issue.

and to those ppl who say learn to handle/ignore ppl who harass u online, learn to grow up, learn to not feel emotionally hurt, learn to not kill urself, an analogy (although a little extreme) could be hey when som1 robs u why dont u learn to suck it up and defend urself? why dont u own a gun and be trained to defend urself against robbers? ur fault that u were robbed right? why didnt u stop the person?
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
July 20 2011 21:39 GMT
#1317
On July 21 2011 06:37 Bluerain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 06:15 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 06:13 freddyy wrote:
On July 21 2011 06:04 ranshaked wrote:
Who cares if someone says "You should get naked and do this" Honestly who cares?


As was mentioned in SotG, Korea has a high suicide rate amongst celebrities because of this. So obviously they care. And don't tell me that people being harassed to the degree that they take their own life is a thing that we should learn to live with.

There's something wrong with those people if they are committing suicide. Suicide is the most selfish and disrespectful act you can pull. Obviously the celebrities in Korea need to learn to cope better with this stuff. Maybe they should come to the US and learn how to handle it.


maybe people dont wanna learn to have to live with being verbally harassed online? shit us americans take this free speech crap too seriously. maybe we should all learn to only say things that we would say if it was to som1s face.

a lotta ppl are gonna say that jessica is overreacting cus online bullying is so common and u can jus ignore it. well, jus cus its common doesnt make it right and doesnt meant its ur responsibility to have to ignore it. most of the time its fine cus ppl dont care, but when the person being harassed cares, then hey it should become an issue.

and to those ppl who say learn to handle/ignore ppl who harass u online, learn to grow up, learn to not feel emotionally hurt, learn to not kill urself, an analogy (although a little extreme) could be hey when som1 robs u why dont u learn to suck it up and defend urself? why dont u own a gun and be trained to defend urself against robbers? ur fault that u were robbed right? why didnt u stop the person?

You cannot compare taking a gun and shooting yourself versus someone else holding your life in their hands.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
July 20 2011 21:43 GMT
#1318
Honestly, I don't care if she takes legal action. The internet is way too full of self-entitled anonymous dicks. At least this might get rid of a few of them.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 21:46:56
July 20 2011 21:46 GMT
#1319
On July 21 2011 05:36 oniontaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 04:05 Sorkoas wrote:
seems like jessica is ranting on twitter again:

+ Show Spoiler +
@SlayerS_Jessica 김가연SlayerS_Jessica
먼저 고소관련 사진을 올렸을때 하은님의 트윗터가 보이셨다고 그거로 제가 님을 고소대상자로 한줄아시고 여기저기에 글을 쓰실때 솔직히 많이 화가났습니다.

하은님이 저의 트윗터를 정리하셔서 키배질이라고 칭하며 여기저시 RT해달라고 글을 쓰셔서 제가 제이름으로 검색하면 최근의 글이 올라옵니다.

하은님을 비롯하여 최근에 제이름으로 글쓴것이 바로보이느것이지요,. 이번 고소관련해서 자료는 상황과 정황 설명상 모두 필요합니다. 현재 트윗터에도 이런글이 돌고잇다라는 사실을 입증해야하죠

그래서 전 모은 자료이구요 하은님이 그걸 보시고 제가 대상자로 성정하신걸로 추측하신듯합니다. 저에게 확인하신것도 아닌데 그걸 여기저기 퍼트리는 걸 보면서 솔직히 님이 도를 넘어서면 님 또한 대상자로 넣어야겟다는 생각도 했었어요

아...멘션이 아니네여.. 음.. 어쩌지?


someone feel free to translate please. im not gonna post google translation.


Not much to say. She wasn't ranting so much as speaking to the one Korean person who accused of persecuting someone for simply criticising SlayerS. Not sure she wasn't using mentions or @ but it might be because I couldn't find that tweet user when I looked for her earlier.

Jessica will be releasing a statement directly to TL or twitter in the coming hours.

I wasn't aware of the full situation myself but having read parts of it just now, the clarification it brings makes the OP of this thread redundant. It seems that TL members have been misled.

Perhaps when this happens, the mods would be kind enough to allow a new thread to be opened with a new OP that explains the situation quite clearly.


Since you speak Korean - can you ask Haeun_Cielu, since he/she seems to be a big player in this whole event too, for a statement was well?
Something like "The foreign community is following the whole incident - and KKY is making a statement (<link to statement> when it's done). Do you want to comment as well?" Would be really cool

Because of the stuff we heard I personally might have a hard time believing what she says without hearing the other side as well.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
July 20 2011 21:52 GMT
#1320
Geez, I bet Boxer and the rest of SlayerS are doing their best to be busy practicing right about now hahahaha.
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
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