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On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale.
Sad for you. I personally like them even more  Better practice partners for the original FXO players, chance to see the likes of sC and Leenock at foreign lans, chance for some of the original FXO players to stay in Korea and practice in the fOu house, maybe some of the Korean players will come to Malaysia etc. Actual sponsors for the hardworking Choya and his fOu teammates, who deserve it. List goes on! Good move for FXO!
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This confused me at first, but reading some of the discussion moved me into the 'approves' category!
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Wow, this is absolutely awesome for Fxo and esports in general. I hope other teams follow suit. Can you imagine IM having an American team, or EG having a European team? Awesome.
Just out of curiosity, how can FXO afford to do this? Is the goal of the team to be profitable at some point or is this purely a labour of love that helps get the FXO brand out there?
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GJ FXO, hopefully putting those guys together will be beneficial for theyr practice! will be following in GSTL!
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On July 19 2011 05:42 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:29 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. Because you throw a hissy fit simply because a team was acquired and say stupid stuff like "omg I can't root for you as much now." It's completely childish. If you don't get it why this is simply a smart move to get more talent among other things than maybe the boss was right. It's far from a hissy fit, it's some simple questions to try and understand more about a team's acquisition. I said the same thing in regards to Complexity acquiring ROOT, I'll have to wait and see but as of now I'm a little put-off, particularly since I don't know the dynamic behind this acquisition. Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:27 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. I already have a team of potential, and I acquired another team of potential.. What more do you want man? If I wanted to buy a team to be the yankees , I would have bought slayers.... Its pretty simple. Or better yet, I would have bought, naniwa, huk, mma, drg, nestea, losira, scfOu, and made a 'super team'... There is NOTHING in common between the yankees and FXO... At all.. You are just digging at something that doesn't exist. If you don't want to be a fan thats your choice. But I am kinda tired of being attacked for no reason for good decisions that are attempts at me to grow an industry. Honestly what have I done that has indicated that I am just going around buying publicity? This implies that those players would genuinely be up for purchase, but perhaps the Yankees are a bit of an extreme comparison. The situation seems similar though, sure it makes sense, what's better than one team with potential? Two teams with potential! But honestly Fou is more than a team with potential with the amount of talent they have in the GSL, it's undoubtedly buying upwards as opposed to buying sideways which is where I draw my comparison. It's especially a bit surprising since you spoke negatively about the mercenary system, saying that the players "Don't know how each other play, they don't know how each other live" and the players coming down will likely be spending around as much time with similar training interaction with the WeMadeFox team. So how is that any different from what just happened here other than, "Oh wait, they aren't mercenaries, look we bought them", do you know how they play or live now more than the foreign mercenaries would after 3-4 games of the GSTL? Have your thoughts on that system changed at all?
And you still don't get it, wow man. Just really amazing. Whatever I guess, someone will ALWAYS be there to hate as hard as they can.
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Haters are gonna hate as per usual
There is nothing about this that is even remotely negative for anyone or anything in the entire esports industry.
If you want to be less of an FXO fan because I would say thats stupid but I guess that's your decision.
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On July 19 2011 05:42 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. Sad for you. I personally like them even more Better practice partners for the original FXO players, chance to see the likes of sC and Leenock at foreign lans, chance for some of the original FXO players to stay in Korea and practice in the fOu house, maybe some of the Korean players will come to Malaysia etc. Actual sponsors for the hardworking Choya and his fOu teammates, who deserve it. List goes on! Good move for FXO!
Oh that's perfectly fine, and it's not sad for me at all. I happen to still like Sheth quite a bit and I've never doubted that FXOBoss has nothing but good intentions for his team and for eSports, I just find it surprising and to be honest, maybe even a little hypocritical that he made such a purchase after his comments on why the mercenary system was bad. Does adding a clan tag in front of a name make it any more personable?
I didn't start liking Complexity simply because some of my favorite players added coL in front of their names, it took a bit to see how the team actually interacted and communicated. I've seen Boss talk to and about Choya very positively but not much in regards to the rest of Fou, which is why I'm a bit perplexed by this decision after his prior comments.
On July 19 2011 05:46 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:42 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:29 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. Because you throw a hissy fit simply because a team was acquired and say stupid stuff like "omg I can't root for you as much now." It's completely childish. If you don't get it why this is simply a smart move to get more talent among other things than maybe the boss was right. It's far from a hissy fit, it's some simple questions to try and understand more about a team's acquisition. I said the same thing in regards to Complexity acquiring ROOT, I'll have to wait and see but as of now I'm a little put-off, particularly since I don't know the dynamic behind this acquisition. On July 19 2011 05:27 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. I already have a team of potential, and I acquired another team of potential.. What more do you want man? If I wanted to buy a team to be the yankees , I would have bought slayers.... Its pretty simple. Or better yet, I would have bought, naniwa, huk, mma, drg, nestea, losira, scfOu, and made a 'super team'... There is NOTHING in common between the yankees and FXO... At all.. You are just digging at something that doesn't exist. If you don't want to be a fan thats your choice. But I am kinda tired of being attacked for no reason for good decisions that are attempts at me to grow an industry. Honestly what have I done that has indicated that I am just going around buying publicity? This implies that those players would genuinely be up for purchase, but perhaps the Yankees are a bit of an extreme comparison. The situation seems similar though, sure it makes sense, what's better than one team with potential? Two teams with potential! But honestly Fou is more than a team with potential with the amount of talent they have in the GSL, it's undoubtedly buying upwards as opposed to buying sideways which is where I draw my comparison. It's especially a bit surprising since you spoke negatively about the mercenary system, saying that the players "Don't know how each other play, they don't know how each other live" and the players coming down will likely be spending around as much time with similar training interaction with the WeMadeFox team. So how is that any different from what just happened here other than, "Oh wait, they aren't mercenaries, look we bought them", do you know how they play or live now more than the foreign mercenaries would after 3-4 games of the GSTL? Have your thoughts on that system changed at all? And you still don't get it, wow man. Just really amazing. Whatever I guess, someone will ALWAYS be there to hate as hard as they can.
Oh get the fuck over yourself.
Oh no, he didn't say it was the greatest thing in the world, he's asking for clarification, what a hater!
I'm waiting and seeing, I'm not saying FXO is shit because they bought some good players. It's far from "hating", what a stupid fucking reaction.
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Great move by FXO, it's a win/win situation and it will definitely help to bridge the gap between the korean and the foreign community.
I wonder what are the reaction of the koreans? I guess a lot of them are "lololol they can't beat us so they buy us", but it could be interesting anyway ^^.
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Everybody with a negative comment about this IS Killing E-sports!
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On July 19 2011 05:47 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:42 AxionSteel wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. Sad for you. I personally like them even more Better practice partners for the original FXO players, chance to see the likes of sC and Leenock at foreign lans, chance for some of the original FXO players to stay in Korea and practice in the fOu house, maybe some of the Korean players will come to Malaysia etc. Actual sponsors for the hardworking Choya and his fOu teammates, who deserve it. List goes on! Good move for FXO! Oh that's perfectly fine, and it's not sad for me at all. I happen to still like Sheth quite a bit and I've never doubted that FXOBoss has nothing but good intentions for his team and for eSports, I just find it surprising and to be honest, maybe even a little hypocritical that he made such a purchase after his comments on why the mercenary system was bad. Does adding a clan tag in front of a name make it any more personable? I didn't start liking Complexity simply because some of my favorite players added coL in front of their names, it took a bit to see how the team actually interacted and communicated. I've seen Boss talk to and about Choya very positively but not much in regards to the rest of Fou, which is why I'm a bit perplexed by this decision after his prior comments.
Spending money = being the Yankees?
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This is awesome!
Looks like the living conditions of the Fou players will only improve with this move! And this creates full of new practice opportunities for foreigners and koreans alike.
This is just too cool! We'll also see a bunch of Fou players competing elsewhere!
FXO fighting!!!
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On July 19 2011 05:47 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:42 AxionSteel wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. Sad for you. I personally like them even more Better practice partners for the original FXO players, chance to see the likes of sC and Leenock at foreign lans, chance for some of the original FXO players to stay in Korea and practice in the fOu house, maybe some of the Korean players will come to Malaysia etc. Actual sponsors for the hardworking Choya and his fOu teammates, who deserve it. List goes on! Good move for FXO! Oh that's perfectly fine, and it's not sad for me at all. I happen to still like Sheth quite a bit and I've never doubted that FXOBoss has nothing but good intentions for his team and for eSports, I just find it surprising and to be honest, maybe even a little hypocritical that he made such a purchase after his comments on why the mercenary system was bad. Does adding a clan tag in front of a name make it any more personable? I didn't start liking Complexity simply because some of my favorite players added coL in front of their names, it took a bit to see how the team actually interacted and communicated. I've seen Boss talk to and about Choya very positively but not much in regards to the rest of Fou, which is why I'm a bit perplexed by this decision after his prior comments. Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:46 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:42 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:29 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. Because you throw a hissy fit simply because a team was acquired and say stupid stuff like "omg I can't root for you as much now." It's completely childish. If you don't get it why this is simply a smart move to get more talent among other things than maybe the boss was right. It's far from a hissy fit, it's some simple questions to try and understand more about a team's acquisition. I said the same thing in regards to Complexity acquiring ROOT, I'll have to wait and see but as of now I'm a little put-off, particularly since I don't know the dynamic behind this acquisition. On July 19 2011 05:27 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. I already have a team of potential, and I acquired another team of potential.. What more do you want man? If I wanted to buy a team to be the yankees , I would have bought slayers.... Its pretty simple. Or better yet, I would have bought, naniwa, huk, mma, drg, nestea, losira, scfOu, and made a 'super team'... There is NOTHING in common between the yankees and FXO... At all.. You are just digging at something that doesn't exist. If you don't want to be a fan thats your choice. But I am kinda tired of being attacked for no reason for good decisions that are attempts at me to grow an industry. Honestly what have I done that has indicated that I am just going around buying publicity? This implies that those players would genuinely be up for purchase, but perhaps the Yankees are a bit of an extreme comparison. The situation seems similar though, sure it makes sense, what's better than one team with potential? Two teams with potential! But honestly Fou is more than a team with potential with the amount of talent they have in the GSL, it's undoubtedly buying upwards as opposed to buying sideways which is where I draw my comparison. It's especially a bit surprising since you spoke negatively about the mercenary system, saying that the players "Don't know how each other play, they don't know how each other live" and the players coming down will likely be spending around as much time with similar training interaction with the WeMadeFox team. So how is that any different from what just happened here other than, "Oh wait, they aren't mercenaries, look we bought them", do you know how they play or live now more than the foreign mercenaries would after 3-4 games of the GSTL? Have your thoughts on that system changed at all? And you still don't get it, wow man. Just really amazing. Whatever I guess, someone will ALWAYS be there to hate as hard as they can. Oh get the fuck over yourself. Oh no, he didn't say it was the greatest thing in the world, he's asking for clarification, what a hater!I'm waiting and seeing, I'm not saying FXO is shit because they bought some good players. It's far from "hating", what a stupid fucking reaction.
That's incredibly ironic considering the first thing you do is act like this is some huge contradiction of what he said before. God forbid someone use their money for SC 2.
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can someone explain to me why FXO doesnt have a site yet? i can imagine a pretty sick site with these 2 teams...and all the money they'd be able to put into it.
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I really didn't care about this until I read FXOBoss's comments. I now approve of him being a boss
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On July 19 2011 05:51 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:47 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:42 AxionSteel wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. Sad for you. I personally like them even more Better practice partners for the original FXO players, chance to see the likes of sC and Leenock at foreign lans, chance for some of the original FXO players to stay in Korea and practice in the fOu house, maybe some of the Korean players will come to Malaysia etc. Actual sponsors for the hardworking Choya and his fOu teammates, who deserve it. List goes on! Good move for FXO! Oh that's perfectly fine, and it's not sad for me at all. I happen to still like Sheth quite a bit and I've never doubted that FXOBoss has nothing but good intentions for his team and for eSports, I just find it surprising and to be honest, maybe even a little hypocritical that he made such a purchase after his comments on why the mercenary system was bad. Does adding a clan tag in front of a name make it any more personable? I didn't start liking Complexity simply because some of my favorite players added coL in front of their names, it took a bit to see how the team actually interacted and communicated. I've seen Boss talk to and about Choya very positively but not much in regards to the rest of Fou, which is why I'm a bit perplexed by this decision after his prior comments. On July 19 2011 05:46 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:42 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:29 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. Because you throw a hissy fit simply because a team was acquired and say stupid stuff like "omg I can't root for you as much now." It's completely childish. If you don't get it why this is simply a smart move to get more talent among other things than maybe the boss was right. It's far from a hissy fit, it's some simple questions to try and understand more about a team's acquisition. I said the same thing in regards to Complexity acquiring ROOT, I'll have to wait and see but as of now I'm a little put-off, particularly since I don't know the dynamic behind this acquisition. On July 19 2011 05:27 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. I already have a team of potential, and I acquired another team of potential.. What more do you want man? If I wanted to buy a team to be the yankees , I would have bought slayers.... Its pretty simple. Or better yet, I would have bought, naniwa, huk, mma, drg, nestea, losira, scfOu, and made a 'super team'... There is NOTHING in common between the yankees and FXO... At all.. You are just digging at something that doesn't exist. If you don't want to be a fan thats your choice. But I am kinda tired of being attacked for no reason for good decisions that are attempts at me to grow an industry. Honestly what have I done that has indicated that I am just going around buying publicity? This implies that those players would genuinely be up for purchase, but perhaps the Yankees are a bit of an extreme comparison. The situation seems similar though, sure it makes sense, what's better than one team with potential? Two teams with potential! But honestly Fou is more than a team with potential with the amount of talent they have in the GSL, it's undoubtedly buying upwards as opposed to buying sideways which is where I draw my comparison. It's especially a bit surprising since you spoke negatively about the mercenary system, saying that the players "Don't know how each other play, they don't know how each other live" and the players coming down will likely be spending around as much time with similar training interaction with the WeMadeFox team. So how is that any different from what just happened here other than, "Oh wait, they aren't mercenaries, look we bought them", do you know how they play or live now more than the foreign mercenaries would after 3-4 games of the GSTL? Have your thoughts on that system changed at all? And you still don't get it, wow man. Just really amazing. Whatever I guess, someone will ALWAYS be there to hate as hard as they can. Oh get the fuck over yourself. Oh no, he didn't say it was the greatest thing in the world, he's asking for clarification, what a hater!I'm waiting and seeing, I'm not saying FXO is shit because they bought some good players. It's far from "hating", what a stupid fucking reaction. That's incredibly ironic considering the first thing you do is act like this is some huge contradiction of what he said before.
Care to clarify or elaborate or are you going to continue posting one line responses?
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Amazing news, gongrats FXO and congrats too FXOKorea!
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On July 19 2011 05:52 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:51 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:47 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:42 AxionSteel wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. Sad for you. I personally like them even more Better practice partners for the original FXO players, chance to see the likes of sC and Leenock at foreign lans, chance for some of the original FXO players to stay in Korea and practice in the fOu house, maybe some of the Korean players will come to Malaysia etc. Actual sponsors for the hardworking Choya and his fOu teammates, who deserve it. List goes on! Good move for FXO! Oh that's perfectly fine, and it's not sad for me at all. I happen to still like Sheth quite a bit and I've never doubted that FXOBoss has nothing but good intentions for his team and for eSports, I just find it surprising and to be honest, maybe even a little hypocritical that he made such a purchase after his comments on why the mercenary system was bad. Does adding a clan tag in front of a name make it any more personable? I didn't start liking Complexity simply because some of my favorite players added coL in front of their names, it took a bit to see how the team actually interacted and communicated. I've seen Boss talk to and about Choya very positively but not much in regards to the rest of Fou, which is why I'm a bit perplexed by this decision after his prior comments. On July 19 2011 05:46 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:42 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:29 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. Because you throw a hissy fit simply because a team was acquired and say stupid stuff like "omg I can't root for you as much now." It's completely childish. If you don't get it why this is simply a smart move to get more talent among other things than maybe the boss was right. It's far from a hissy fit, it's some simple questions to try and understand more about a team's acquisition. I said the same thing in regards to Complexity acquiring ROOT, I'll have to wait and see but as of now I'm a little put-off, particularly since I don't know the dynamic behind this acquisition. On July 19 2011 05:27 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. I already have a team of potential, and I acquired another team of potential.. What more do you want man? If I wanted to buy a team to be the yankees , I would have bought slayers.... Its pretty simple. Or better yet, I would have bought, naniwa, huk, mma, drg, nestea, losira, scfOu, and made a 'super team'... There is NOTHING in common between the yankees and FXO... At all.. You are just digging at something that doesn't exist. If you don't want to be a fan thats your choice. But I am kinda tired of being attacked for no reason for good decisions that are attempts at me to grow an industry. Honestly what have I done that has indicated that I am just going around buying publicity? This implies that those players would genuinely be up for purchase, but perhaps the Yankees are a bit of an extreme comparison. The situation seems similar though, sure it makes sense, what's better than one team with potential? Two teams with potential! But honestly Fou is more than a team with potential with the amount of talent they have in the GSL, it's undoubtedly buying upwards as opposed to buying sideways which is where I draw my comparison. It's especially a bit surprising since you spoke negatively about the mercenary system, saying that the players "Don't know how each other play, they don't know how each other live" and the players coming down will likely be spending around as much time with similar training interaction with the WeMadeFox team. So how is that any different from what just happened here other than, "Oh wait, they aren't mercenaries, look we bought them", do you know how they play or live now more than the foreign mercenaries would after 3-4 games of the GSTL? Have your thoughts on that system changed at all? And you still don't get it, wow man. Just really amazing. Whatever I guess, someone will ALWAYS be there to hate as hard as they can. Oh get the fuck over yourself. Oh no, he didn't say it was the greatest thing in the world, he's asking for clarification, what a hater!I'm waiting and seeing, I'm not saying FXO is shit because they bought some good players. It's far from "hating", what a stupid fucking reaction. That's incredibly ironic considering the first thing you do is act like this is some huge contradiction of what he said before. Care to clarify or elaborate or are you going to continue posting one line responses?
Uhhh, it's perfect english and you're being a hypocrite. You aren't hating but this move caused you to like FXO less? Really? If you need more to explain that hypocrisy then that's on you. Then you talk about how he was talking about mercenaries and such and then you think this move is so interesting in light of that as if he was going against what he said.
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On July 19 2011 05:42 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:29 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. Because you throw a hissy fit simply because a team was acquired and say stupid stuff like "omg I can't root for you as much now." It's completely childish. If you don't get it why this is simply a smart move to get more talent among other things than maybe the boss was right. It's far from a hissy fit, it's some simple questions to try and understand more about a team's acquisition. I said the same thing in regards to Complexity acquiring ROOT, I'll have to wait and see but as of now I'm a little put-off, particularly since I don't know the dynamic behind this acquisition. Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:27 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. I already have a team of potential, and I acquired another team of potential.. What more do you want man? If I wanted to buy a team to be the yankees , I would have bought slayers.... Its pretty simple. Or better yet, I would have bought, naniwa, huk, mma, drg, nestea, losira, scfOu, and made a 'super team'... There is NOTHING in common between the yankees and FXO... At all.. You are just digging at something that doesn't exist. If you don't want to be a fan thats your choice. But I am kinda tired of being attacked for no reason for good decisions that are attempts at me to grow an industry. Honestly what have I done that has indicated that I am just going around buying publicity? This implies that those players would genuinely be up for purchase, but perhaps the Yankees are a bit of an extreme comparison. The situation seems similar though, sure it makes sense, what's better than one team with potential? Two teams with potential! But honestly Fou is more than a team with potential with the amount of talent they have in the GSL, it's undoubtedly buying upwards as opposed to buying sideways which is where I draw my comparison. It's especially a bit surprising since you spoke negatively about the mercenary system, saying that the players "Don't know how each other play, they don't know how each other live" and the players coming down will likely be spending around as much time with similar training interaction with the WeMadeFox team. So how is that any different from what just happened here other than, "Oh wait, they aren't mercenaries, look we bought them", do you know how they play or live now more than the foreign mercenaries would after 3-4 games of the GSTL? Have your thoughts on that system changed at all?
Also mercenaries and aquiring fOu isn't comparable at all. I'm guessing FXO members will be able to stay, play with, get to know, share replays/tactics with the fOu guys in a way no mercenary team would ever do. You just seem to be very pessimistic and just want to nitpick on any small thing you can find. Seems like nothing can ever be just a good thing in SC2, there's always the whiny complaining nerds with entitlement issues.
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On July 19 2011 05:53 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:52 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:51 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:47 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:42 AxionSteel wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. Sad for you. I personally like them even more Better practice partners for the original FXO players, chance to see the likes of sC and Leenock at foreign lans, chance for some of the original FXO players to stay in Korea and practice in the fOu house, maybe some of the Korean players will come to Malaysia etc. Actual sponsors for the hardworking Choya and his fOu teammates, who deserve it. List goes on! Good move for FXO! Oh that's perfectly fine, and it's not sad for me at all. I happen to still like Sheth quite a bit and I've never doubted that FXOBoss has nothing but good intentions for his team and for eSports, I just find it surprising and to be honest, maybe even a little hypocritical that he made such a purchase after his comments on why the mercenary system was bad. Does adding a clan tag in front of a name make it any more personable? I didn't start liking Complexity simply because some of my favorite players added coL in front of their names, it took a bit to see how the team actually interacted and communicated. I've seen Boss talk to and about Choya very positively but not much in regards to the rest of Fou, which is why I'm a bit perplexed by this decision after his prior comments. On July 19 2011 05:46 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:42 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:29 Serpico wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. Because you throw a hissy fit simply because a team was acquired and say stupid stuff like "omg I can't root for you as much now." It's completely childish. If you don't get it why this is simply a smart move to get more talent among other things than maybe the boss was right. It's far from a hissy fit, it's some simple questions to try and understand more about a team's acquisition. I said the same thing in regards to Complexity acquiring ROOT, I'll have to wait and see but as of now I'm a little put-off, particularly since I don't know the dynamic behind this acquisition. On July 19 2011 05:27 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:20 Mordiford wrote:On July 19 2011 05:13 FXOpen wrote:On July 19 2011 05:02 Mordiford wrote:
Okay, we have another EG Master's Cup situation don't we?
So is Fou going to complete this season of the GSTL as Fou or as FXO, if Fou goes on and FXO doesn't, will Fou have access to the current FXO roster? Or are rosters locked for the current season? Sorry if this has been answered prior but it's not in the OP(other than the uniform change).
I'm not gonna lie, it really feels like FXO is the Yankees, I just can't get behind FXO this way. Sure they may start dominating team leagues with access to such a huge talented roster and all that, but all that we really see is a team buying players as other teams build them up, and then buying a whole roster of talented players. I'm most likely jumping the gun here, but for now FXO sort of dropped quite a bit on the "Teams I root for" scale. I had just written a huge reply to this. Not because of your post in particular, but because of a bunch of other naive posts before it. I then deleted my post, because I shouldn't expect sc2 viewers to understand business.. That is wrong of me. As for GSTL, the season will be played out as is. With neither fOu or FXO making playoffs, there is little/noeffect. In future GSTL's. The internal rankings will depend on whos on the team. As well as a few individual decisions. I would expect to see some original FXO on the bench during the season. I'm assuming this is Boss, but not entirely sure. I don't really see how telling me I wouldn't understand gets you anywhere, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to at least attempt to make the post and then move along if I'm still ignorant to the "business" of it. I prefer to see teams pick up players with potential and build them up as opposed to falling into what to the outside, appears to be "If you can't beat them, buy them". This is part of why I don't like the Yankees, sure you can say it's good business and you'll gain fans with your success, the Yankees have plenty of them, but I simply won't be one of them with the current knowledge I have of the situation. Telling me I won't understand business won't do anything but insult my intelligence and put me off further, quite simply, it may be good business to simply buy whomever is talented but in my opinion, it doesn't make for good sport. I already have a team of potential, and I acquired another team of potential.. What more do you want man? If I wanted to buy a team to be the yankees , I would have bought slayers.... Its pretty simple. Or better yet, I would have bought, naniwa, huk, mma, drg, nestea, losira, scfOu, and made a 'super team'... There is NOTHING in common between the yankees and FXO... At all.. You are just digging at something that doesn't exist. If you don't want to be a fan thats your choice. But I am kinda tired of being attacked for no reason for good decisions that are attempts at me to grow an industry. Honestly what have I done that has indicated that I am just going around buying publicity? This implies that those players would genuinely be up for purchase, but perhaps the Yankees are a bit of an extreme comparison. The situation seems similar though, sure it makes sense, what's better than one team with potential? Two teams with potential! But honestly Fou is more than a team with potential with the amount of talent they have in the GSL, it's undoubtedly buying upwards as opposed to buying sideways which is where I draw my comparison. It's especially a bit surprising since you spoke negatively about the mercenary system, saying that the players "Don't know how each other play, they don't know how each other live" and the players coming down will likely be spending around as much time with similar training interaction with the WeMadeFox team. So how is that any different from what just happened here other than, "Oh wait, they aren't mercenaries, look we bought them", do you know how they play or live now more than the foreign mercenaries would after 3-4 games of the GSTL? Have your thoughts on that system changed at all? And you still don't get it, wow man. Just really amazing. Whatever I guess, someone will ALWAYS be there to hate as hard as they can. Oh get the fuck over yourself. Oh no, he didn't say it was the greatest thing in the world, he's asking for clarification, what a hater!I'm waiting and seeing, I'm not saying FXO is shit because they bought some good players. It's far from "hating", what a stupid fucking reaction. That's incredibly ironic considering the first thing you do is act like this is some huge contradiction of what he said before. Care to clarify or elaborate or are you going to continue posting one line responses? Uhhh, it's perfect english and you're being a hypocrite. You aren't hating but this move caused you to like FXO less? Really? If you need more to explain that hypocrisy then that's on you. Then you talk about how he was talking about mercenaries and such and then you think this move is so interesting in light of that as if he was going against what he said.
I do think it contradicts what little he said on the mercenary system earlier and was asking for clarification on that, I clearly stated why I feel it contradicts his earlier statements, go back and re-read if you're confused by that.
I'm hating because I said that I am little put off by this decision and will be waiting to see before I move FXO around as far as teams I root for? Fuck me, I'm a total hater, anything that's a little off neutral and a smidgen off from super positive must be fucking hating.
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