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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
July 14 2011 23:39 GMT
#861
On July 15 2011 08:31 DEN1ED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 08:06 Drowsy wrote:
There's skill differences between Korea and America, but I think these mostly occur at the upper echelons and not among casual gamers. The whole reason for the skill difference is the abundance of pros/aspiring pros practicing 8+ hours a day. These guys are upper masters and grandmaster, and this is where the skill difference between koreans and Americans is pronounced, NOT at the sub-masters level. Korean platinum players are marginally less bad than American ones, they're still casual players. Claiming that korean diamond is somehow superior to mid American masters is just ludicrous and wrong.


If the korean GM is far superior to NA GM(which it is), then the korean players that are equivalent to NA GM level will be forced into masters. These players will then force players that are NA masters level down into diamond and so on.


Millions of people play this game, and there are only 200 "Grand Master's" in any given server. Your logic doesn't scale properly.
Tomfour
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
July 14 2011 23:42 GMT
#862
WOOOOOOO

I'm glad I liked SlayerS before this. Now I like them even more.
mangoloid
Profile Joined September 2010
100 Posts
July 14 2011 23:42 GMT
#863
Since SC2 teams are almost all-male, Slayers is probably the only team in which this sort of progress can be made (thanks to Slayers Jessica). Any other team would probably be inhospitable for girl gamers. I think this is a definite plus.

As for the reasons for bringing her on to the team -- time will tell us what those are. Hopefully they are respectable reasons (and not just publicity/private relationship reasons). People in this thread are naturally trying to come to conclusions based on how good she is, but no one's seen her play yet so we should back off that point. I would bet that she is not good enough to do well in GSL, but probably good enough to be useful in practice. It is also worth mentioning that Slayers does not (and should not) use her the way they use their star male players. She could travel around crushing everybody at female-only tournaments, play other smaller tournaments, be the spokeswoman for female gamers, &c. GSL is not the be-all end-all of progaming. Overall, I think she will be a very useful component to the Slayers team. (But once again, only time will tell.)

Cheers to Slayers.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
July 14 2011 23:45 GMT
#864
On July 15 2011 08:39 acrimoneyius wrote:
Millions of people play this game, and there are only 200 "Grand Master's" in any given server. Your logic doesn't scale properly.


Yes, but there are far more than 200 koreans who could make NA GM.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 14 2011 23:55 GMT
#865
On July 15 2011 08:45 DEN1ED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 08:39 acrimoneyius wrote:
Millions of people play this game, and there are only 200 "Grand Master's" in any given server. Your logic doesn't scale properly.


Yes, but there are far more than 200 koreans who could make NA GM.


There are more than 200 North Americans who could make NA GM too most likely.
GummyZerg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States277 Posts
July 15 2011 00:00 GMT
#866
On July 15 2011 08:55 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 08:45 DEN1ED wrote:
On July 15 2011 08:39 acrimoneyius wrote:
Millions of people play this game, and there are only 200 "Grand Master's" in any given server. Your logic doesn't scale properly.


Yes, but there are far more than 200 koreans who could make NA GM.


There are more than 200 North Americans who could make NA GM too most likely.

And there are far more than 200 North Americans who could make NA GM, but there are obviously only 200 at a time.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 15 2011 00:02 GMT
#867
On July 15 2011 09:00 GummyZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 08:55 Mordiford wrote:
On July 15 2011 08:45 DEN1ED wrote:
On July 15 2011 08:39 acrimoneyius wrote:
Millions of people play this game, and there are only 200 "Grand Master's" in any given server. Your logic doesn't scale properly.


Yes, but there are far more than 200 koreans who could make NA GM.


There are more than 200 North Americans who could make NA GM too most likely.

And there are far more than 200 North Americans who could make NA GM, but there are obviously only 200 at a time.


That's like... what I just said.

Unless I'm misunderstanding.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
July 15 2011 00:05 GMT
#868
Slayers does seem to have an eye for talent, considering it had slim pickings to choose from initially(at least from my understanding). I don't know if this is a gimick or not, but I hope her the best!
kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
July 15 2011 00:07 GMT
#869
On July 15 2011 08:39 acrimoneyius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 08:31 DEN1ED wrote:
On July 15 2011 08:06 Drowsy wrote:
There's skill differences between Korea and America, but I think these mostly occur at the upper echelons and not among casual gamers. The whole reason for the skill difference is the abundance of pros/aspiring pros practicing 8+ hours a day. These guys are upper masters and grandmaster, and this is where the skill difference between koreans and Americans is pronounced, NOT at the sub-masters level. Korean platinum players are marginally less bad than American ones, they're still casual players. Claiming that korean diamond is somehow superior to mid American masters is just ludicrous and wrong.


If the korean GM is far superior to NA GM(which it is), then the korean players that are equivalent to NA GM level will be forced into masters. These players will then force players that are NA masters level down into diamond and so on.


Millions of people play this game, and there are only 200 "Grand Master's" in any given server. Your logic doesn't scale properly.


if you say it doesnt scale, you're assuming ONLY the kr GMs are more skilled than na GMs. what about masters? obviously kr masters is more skilled than na masters also. gm and masters is top 2.5% of whole population. if kr ladder had 2x as many skilled people, then top 5% of kr ladder would deserve to be in master/gm NA. that means the lower half of that would be pushed into diamond, which is 10% of population. already 1/4 of kr diamond deserve to be in na master. then it goes on and on after that for lower leagues. of course i pulled the "2x as many skilled" number out of my ass, but i'm pretty sure the number is larger than 2x
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
July 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#870
Yes the top of the KR ladder is better than the NA ladder, it's because they have team houses and practice a ton more and all that jazz.

saying that the middle of the KR ladder ie diamond/plat is stronger than the top/(mid-top) of the NA ladder(masters) is just dumb

What makes the average korean who doesn't live in a team house or practices 10 hours a day better than a masters NA player?
Is it the Kimchi? is it genetics?
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
July 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#871
interesting.

good news imo!
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
July 15 2011 00:13 GMT
#872
On July 15 2011 08:35 DreamChaser wrote:
Does this new prog. have any BW background? or any really good SC2 achievements besides the amateur championship?


Well if you go to here fanpage(what?). You can see: "Played Brood War in elementary school where she also played Terran" so jeah, she played brood war and that's about it:\
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
DonkeyShot
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany63 Posts
July 15 2011 01:58 GMT
#873
On July 15 2011 03:07 Sandro wrote:
LETS GROW ESPORTS GUYS AND MAKE IT MAINSTREAM

*alienates an entire gender and billions of people*


Signed.

Turns out arguments do not really make a lot of impact on TL as well as on pretty much any forum. I'll reside to statements like this in the future also. It's just not worth the effort.
OKScottish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States217 Posts
July 15 2011 02:06 GMT
#874
She is going to distract all the players she faces.
twitch.tv/OK_Scottish :: twitter.com/OKScottish :: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :: (╯°-°)╯︵ ┻━┻ :: Prime Clan <3♥<3♥
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
July 15 2011 02:09 GMT
#875
hmm i think shes gonna get wit MMA 10 bucks i called it
then ryung is gonna get jealous even more 10 more bucks i called it :D
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
July 15 2011 02:11 GMT
#876
SlayerS gonig above and beyond the game, now they are exploring psychological warfare.
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 02:16:42
July 15 2011 02:14 GMT
#877
EDIT: Oops, misread post I quoted.
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
July 15 2011 02:18 GMT
#878
On July 15 2011 11:11 Retgery wrote:
SlayerS gonig above and beyond the game, now they are exploring psychological warfare.

Eve's opponent: "I can't beat a girl, everyone will think I'm a jerk" *Forfeits all games

:D
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
Itzeddiieee
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)787 Posts
July 15 2011 02:19 GMT
#879
On July 15 2011 02:26 floor exercise wrote:
Guess who else got scouted on their looks
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


LOL! QFT
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
July 15 2011 02:20 GMT
#880
Get her to stream on Team liquid with Cella, Dragon and that double secret BoxeR stream that were are not suppose to talk about but is really awesome.
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