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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 14 2011 22:31 GMT
#841
On July 15 2011 01:34 Milkis wrote:
The netizen comments are rather unfortunate. I hope Eve doesn't get too hurt by it and wins one game in GSTL to shut everyone up.


That won't shut them up either. She would need consistent results.
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
July 14 2011 22:32 GMT
#842
On July 15 2011 05:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:34 Gamegene wrote:
Does it really encourage women from joining E-Sports if this is how we're going to parade around them like animals?


Nobody has done that yet, except the people complaining abuot it.

We don't see you play enough. Stream ploz? : )
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 14 2011 22:32 GMT
#843
On July 15 2011 07:28 HyperLimen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 07:25 wolfe wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:21 Ocedic wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:17 wolfe wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:11 EtohEtoh wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:06 b_unnies wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:31 Ruscour wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:18 Canucklehead wrote:
Don't worry guys, she's diamond in korea which means she could all kill fxo and beat most foreigners.

This is so wrong... What do you think the Korean server is? Do you think everyone in Masters lives in a progaming house and spends their whole life practicing?

I get you made a joke, but KR is better at the top-end, their Diamond is no better than anywhere else.

I haven't been watching the stream, did the FXOTeam account (the one they use to dick around with on stream) ever make it out of Diamond?


This is wrong. KR plat is equivalent to US low-mid masters


well, if you're gonna be like that, Destiny's KR account is plat and he beat KR masters ez.

so KR Plat > Kr Masters
and people are saying that KR Diamond can get out of the MLG open bracket, and a lot of NA GMs can't make it out of that, like Destiny who is GM NA(also KR plat), meaning KR diamond > KR plat(duh).

so KR diamond > KR Plat > KR Masters




What we should learn from this mental exercise is that...

Everyone who claims KR Plat > NA Masters is simply looking at too small of a sample size. Lets say I demoted myself or made a new account so that I was in Bronze, hell Silver. I could wipe the floor with lower Master players does that mean NA Bronze > NA Masters.... no... it means I haven't been promoted yet and you are using a terrible example to support a biased theory.

Don't look for evidence to support theories, building theories from evidence is much better.


Your post doesn't even make any sense. Who is demoting themselves exactly? There has been plenty of first hand testimony from both foreign and Korean players that there is indeed a noticeable skill difference between KR server and NA.


Sorry, lemme make this simple. Yes, there is a skill difference between the KR and NA server. No, I refuse to believe that a Korean Plat is equivalent to a NA Masters without proof of some kind. Preferably replays or streams. Top 25% of Koreans are better than the top 2% of NA? Must be something in the water.


Should've watched the FXO stream while they were playing on fresh accounts after just getting to KR. You could see how the plat-dia-masters players played np.


I watched Destiny play through plat-dia-masters players with relative ease earlier today, with some slight latency jitters...

So, I'm not sure if you're saying that it is true or isn't true. Did the FXO players have trouble or did they have a relatively easy time as well?
videogames
Profile Joined May 2011
United States103 Posts
July 14 2011 22:33 GMT
#844
On July 15 2011 07:30 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Her diamond account hasn't been used in over a month, the gold account has games from as recent as yesterday.

I give it a week until someone from SlayerS bumps at least one to Master.
>
wolfe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States761 Posts
July 14 2011 22:34 GMT
#845
On July 15 2011 07:32 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 07:28 HyperLimen wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:25 wolfe wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:21 Ocedic wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:17 wolfe wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:11 EtohEtoh wrote:
On July 15 2011 07:06 b_unnies wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:31 Ruscour wrote:
On July 15 2011 06:18 Canucklehead wrote:
Don't worry guys, she's diamond in korea which means she could all kill fxo and beat most foreigners.

This is so wrong... What do you think the Korean server is? Do you think everyone in Masters lives in a progaming house and spends their whole life practicing?

I get you made a joke, but KR is better at the top-end, their Diamond is no better than anywhere else.

I haven't been watching the stream, did the FXOTeam account (the one they use to dick around with on stream) ever make it out of Diamond?


This is wrong. KR plat is equivalent to US low-mid masters


well, if you're gonna be like that, Destiny's KR account is plat and he beat KR masters ez.

so KR Plat > Kr Masters
and people are saying that KR Diamond can get out of the MLG open bracket, and a lot of NA GMs can't make it out of that, like Destiny who is GM NA(also KR plat), meaning KR diamond > KR plat(duh).

so KR diamond > KR Plat > KR Masters




What we should learn from this mental exercise is that...

Everyone who claims KR Plat > NA Masters is simply looking at too small of a sample size. Lets say I demoted myself or made a new account so that I was in Bronze, hell Silver. I could wipe the floor with lower Master players does that mean NA Bronze > NA Masters.... no... it means I haven't been promoted yet and you are using a terrible example to support a biased theory.

Don't look for evidence to support theories, building theories from evidence is much better.


Your post doesn't even make any sense. Who is demoting themselves exactly? There has been plenty of first hand testimony from both foreign and Korean players that there is indeed a noticeable skill difference between KR server and NA.


Sorry, lemme make this simple. Yes, there is a skill difference between the KR and NA server. No, I refuse to believe that a Korean Plat is equivalent to a NA Masters without proof of some kind. Preferably replays or streams. Top 25% of Koreans are better than the top 2% of NA? Must be something in the water.


Should've watched the FXO stream while they were playing on fresh accounts after just getting to KR. You could see how the plat-dia-masters players played np.


I watched Destiny play through plat-dia-masters players with relative ease earlier today, with some slight latency jitters...

So, I'm not sure if you're saying that it is true or isn't true. Did the FXO players have trouble or did they have a relatively easy time as well?


Exactly my point ;D. It doesn't mean squat to say FXO played KR Plats and then rolled them. You can't compare NA Masters and KR Plats simply because FXO rolls them both, how badly they lost isn't a good measure when we have no idea how much FXO was just dicking around.
Swift as the wind, felt before noticed.
Starp
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada199 Posts
July 14 2011 22:35 GMT
#846
...what if there was something lost in translation. For example, looks could be a person's 'appearance' towards the game. It could be that Eve showed a lot of motivation, composure, maturity, etc during a test interview and Jessica was impressed by what she saw in Eve and her play on the computer. Hence, she looks good (to be a progamer) and is skillful.

...it would be cool to see female progamers in sc2 and I think it would be good for esports.

...yup, she is cute.
"I am wasting away here...click me" - a big Thor
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 14 2011 22:35 GMT
#847
On July 15 2011 02:47 rapidtransit247 wrote:
From Milkis' Twitter:

Show nested quote +
OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee
She won a female only tournament held in YMBC in Afreeca... her opponents were said to be in silver league.



So she's like BunkiE and perhaps might get sent out when it doesn't matter. Peachy.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
July 14 2011 22:37 GMT
#848
rekrul gogo

On July 15 2011 02:26 floor exercise wrote:
Guess who else got scouted on their looks
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[image loading]


lol
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
July 14 2011 22:59 GMT
#849
Someone already made a fanclub for her, wtf..
wolfe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States761 Posts
July 14 2011 23:03 GMT
#850
On July 15 2011 07:59 Steamroller wrote:
Someone already made a fanclub for her, wtf..


She is... a she. Inevitable.
Swift as the wind, felt before noticed.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 14 2011 23:06 GMT
#851
There's skill differences between Korea and America, but I think these mostly occur at the upper echelons and not among casual gamers. The whole reason for the skill difference is the abundance of pros/aspiring pros practicing 8+ hours a day. These guys are upper masters and grandmaster, and this is where the skill difference between koreans and Americans is pronounced, NOT at the sub-masters level. Korean platinum players are marginally less bad than American ones, they're still casual players. Claiming that korean diamond is somehow superior to mid American masters is just ludicrous and wrong.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
July 14 2011 23:08 GMT
#852
High five for her . Hope she does well :D
WELCOME TO THE PARTY
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
July 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#853
On July 15 2011 08:06 Drowsy wrote:
There's skill differences between Korea and America, but I think these mostly occur at the upper echelons and not among casual gamers. The whole reason for the skill difference is the abundance of pros/aspiring pros practicing 8+ hours a day. These guys are upper masters and grandmaster, and this is where the skill difference between koreans and Americans is pronounced, NOT at the sub-masters level. Korean platinum players are marginally less bad than American ones, they're still casual players. Claiming that korean diamond is somehow superior to mid American masters is just ludicrous and wrong.


If the korean GM is far superior to NA GM(which it is), then the korean players that are equivalent to NA GM level will be forced into masters. These players will then force players that are NA masters level down into diamond and so on.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 14 2011 23:32 GMT
#854
On July 15 2011 06:51 aristarchus wrote:
That comment from SlayerSJessica is really, really dumb. I read over about 3 pages of this thread at random, and there is an insane amount of idiotic sexism. But with that comment, the people who aren't sexist really have no ground on which to insist that the sexist people are wrong. If she's picked just because they think having a pretty girl will get them fans, then they deserve every bit of hate they're getting for it. If she really is a legit skill/talent/potential-based recruit, then this just means every early setback she has is going to result in ten times the hate it otherwise would have.


Um, same applies to male progamers too. Remember Bisu?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Ygz
Profile Joined June 2010
England370 Posts
July 14 2011 23:34 GMT
#855
Any replays?
Everything Newton said.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 14 2011 23:34 GMT
#856
On July 14 2011 18:37 St3MoR wrote:
new tossgirl wtf >_<


cuter than tossgirl!
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
July 14 2011 23:35 GMT
#857
Does this new prog. have any BW background? or any really good SC2 achievements besides the amateur championship?
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 23:48:55
July 14 2011 23:36 GMT
#858
On July 15 2011 08:31 DEN1ED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 08:06 Drowsy wrote:
There's skill differences between Korea and America, but I think these mostly occur at the upper echelons and not among casual gamers. The whole reason for the skill difference is the abundance of pros/aspiring pros practicing 8+ hours a day. These guys are upper masters and grandmaster, and this is where the skill difference between koreans and Americans is pronounced, NOT at the sub-masters level. Korean platinum players are marginally less bad than American ones, they're still casual players. Claiming that korean diamond is somehow superior to mid American masters is just ludicrous and wrong.


If the korean GM is far superior to NA GM(which it is), then the korean players that are equivalent to NA GM level will be forced into masters. These players will then force players that are NA masters level down into diamond and so on.



There are 200 people in GM vs several thousand in masters. There's a few thousand aspiring and actual pros at the very top who are way better than the top few thousand in other regions.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
July 14 2011 23:38 GMT
#859
Hopefully she does well in the future. I wouldn't mind having more competitive female progamers. Its not like a physical sport where men has an advantage over women, so there really shouldn't be any reason that there can't be or its not possible for a top tier female progamer. I'm not sure if female being better at multi-tasking is true or not. Either way, best of luck to Slayers_Eve.

Also lol at this thread.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 14 2011 23:39 GMT
#860
On July 15 2011 08:35 DreamChaser wrote:
Does this new prog. have any BW background? or any really good SC2 achievements besides the amateur championship?


Apparently not, and the amateur championship was apparently against silver leaguers...

So pretty much a 100% unknown.
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