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LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
July 13 2011 04:57 GMT
#21
Wow, that's got to suck..
AlphaWing
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 05:04:15
July 13 2011 04:59 GMT
#22
On July 13 2011 13:47 steamrice wrote:
The typical response is they did nothing and that's never the whole story.



Yeah, I think that too.

Personally, I think there must be something going on with those accounts,
because I did nothing to my account, not even using mouse macros, and I didn't got banned.

So I think they maybe did something to their account, not cheating, but something that has been detected as a hack, but they don't even realize that is a hack.
Maybe like changing MPQs or interface or something, I don't know.

It is a mystery right now
AlphaWing
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan36 Posts
July 13 2011 05:16 GMT
#23
Update:
The people who got banned, received a letter from Blizzard, of course,
But the interesting thing is that the Sender of the E-mail is not "Blizzard-Starcraft" but "Blizzard-World of Warcraft" and it is not written in Chinese or English either, it is written in Korean which most people can't understand.
This news is from Bahamut, the largest gaming forum in Taiwan.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
July 13 2011 05:17 GMT
#24
I get the feeling that it has to do with some sort of program a lot of TW players use. Either a chat program, music program, something like that. When Sen streams, I noticed he had some kinda music player that seemed easy to interact with while playing SC2, so that may be a hint of TW programs being really good at integrating themselves with other software. If that is the case, and something did a particularly good job at it, it is conceivable that such a program may be detected by Warden and seen as a hack.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 13 2011 05:21 GMT
#25
On July 13 2011 14:16 AlphaWing wrote:
Update:
The people who got banned, received a letter from Blizzard, of course,
But the interesting thing is that the Sender of the E-mail is not "Blizzard-Starcraft" but "Blizzard-World of Warcraft" and it is not written in Chinese or English either, it is written in Korean which most people can't understand.
This news is from Bahamut, the largest gaming forum in Taiwan.



LOL.

Now this has to be a fuckup.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 13 2011 05:22 GMT
#26
On July 13 2011 14:17 Mohdoo wrote:
I get the feeling that it has to do with some sort of program a lot of TW players use. Either a chat program, music program, something like that. When Sen streams, I noticed he had some kinda music player that seemed easy to interact with while playing SC2, so that may be a hint of TW programs being really good at integrating themselves with other software. If that is the case, and something did a particularly good job at it, it is conceivable that such a program may be detected by Warden and seen as a hack.


no.....just no. from the reports it seems like a mistake on the part of Blizz.
Dracover
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia177 Posts
July 13 2011 05:28 GMT
#27
On July 13 2011 14:17 Mohdoo wrote:
I get the feeling that it has to do with some sort of program a lot of TW players use. Either a chat program, music program, something like that. When Sen streams, I noticed he had some kinda music player that seemed easy to interact with while playing SC2, so that may be a hint of TW programs being really good at integrating themselves with other software. If that is the case, and something did a particularly good job at it, it is conceivable that such a program may be detected by Warden and seen as a hack.


I wouldnt be suprised if this is the case. I remember on WC3 I had a program which allowed me to do things such as go to the next song, pick a song etc whilst in game by typing into the chat (i.e. dont need to alt tab and stuff). Someone is going to tell me technically such a program is considered hacking.
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KaienFEMC
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada127 Posts
July 13 2011 05:29 GMT
#28
I heard several cases from my friends, since we are a Taiwanese clan who play on both NA and TW servers. Two of our clan members had their account banned in TW server, and one of the guy hasn't really been active at all for the past 2 months.

There are two more cases that seemed interesting.

One had added a 7-days trial TW-SC2 serial to his NA-SC2 account half an year ago. One added a full TW-SC2 liscense to his NA-SC2 account couple months ago. Both of them had their NA-SC2 account banned. The first guy of course can not check his TW-SC2 status since it was only a 7-day trial. The second guy however, can still log on to TW-SC2 with the account. No 3rd party program was used to log on to B.net. They both downloaded and installed TW-SC2 client in a separate folder.

Is there anymore people who bounded more than two accounts from different regions to one e-mail address and got hit by the ban hammer??
-miDnight-
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan455 Posts
July 13 2011 05:36 GMT
#29
It's total madness in Taiwan right now
http://www.facebook.com/midnightsc Chinese caster from TW (go SEn)
lazydino
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada331 Posts
July 13 2011 05:38 GMT
#30
Dang my home country
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
July 13 2011 05:38 GMT
#31
Maybe it's people editing MPQs for new backgrounds or music or whatever. Maybe a few legit hackers, but not if it is a lot of people.

So are you saying that a mass number of accounts got banned? It's confusing from the post, i'm guessing that english isn't your first language which is fine, but exactly how many people are we talking? if it's a few 10's or 100's then I don't think it's a big deal, other than sucking for the people who got banned obviously. But if it is like 1000's that's a much bigger deal. Also, were these bans simultaneous? Or have they been happening over the course of a few days?
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#32
I'm sure it's just a mistake and hope it'll just be a blip in the road. In general I like to whine about Blizzard taking too long rather than too short a time to do things so I recommend patience, I'm sure Blizz will fix it up
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 05:41:07
July 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#33
On July 13 2011 14:38 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Maybe it's people editing MPQs for new backgrounds or music or whatever. Maybe a few legit hackers, but not if it is a lot of people.

So are you saying that a mass number of accounts got banned? It's confusing from the post, i'm guessing that english isn't your first language which is fine, but exactly how many people are we talking? if it's a few 10's or 100's then I don't think it's a big deal, other than sucking for the people who got banned obviously. But if it is like 1000's that's a much bigger deal. Also, were these bans simultaneous? Or have they been happening over the course of a few days?


I don't see why only Taiwanese players would get banned because of this.

Many people edits MPQs and have been doing it for a long time. In Eu, KR and US.
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
July 13 2011 05:41 GMT
#34
On July 13 2011 14:29 KaienFEMC wrote:
I heard several cases from my friends, since we are a Taiwanese clan who play on both NA and TW servers. Two of our clan members had their account banned in TW server, and one of the guy hasn't really been active at all for the past 2 months.

There are two more cases that seemed interesting.

One had added a 7-days trial TW-SC2 serial to his NA-SC2 account half an year ago. One added a full TW-SC2 liscense to his NA-SC2 account couple months ago. Both of them had their NA-SC2 account banned. The first guy of course can not check his TW-SC2 status since it was only a 7-day trial. The second guy however, can still log on to TW-SC2 with the account. No 3rd party program was used to log on to B.net. They both downloaded and installed TW-SC2 client in a separate folder.

Is there anymore people who bounded more than two accounts from different regions to one e-mail address and got hit by the ban hammer??


Maybe it's got something to do with using that relocalizer program.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 05:53:00
July 13 2011 05:44 GMT
#35
Wait a minute.....did think only happen in TW?

Because i think I got a few friends in my Clan who also got banned for no reason.......and I'm pretty sure they are not using hacks, and some of them havent even been playing 1v1s.

Some of them I played with for a long time, and they are in top8 masters for a few months already......I doubt they are stupid enough to hack on these kind of accounts.

Also some people who got banned only play custom games like desert strike.....saying they are using drop hack is just.......lols.

I think Blizz fucked up big time....
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
July 13 2011 05:44 GMT
#36
Please change the OP, I thought a disaster happened or something.
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 05:47:28
July 13 2011 05:46 GMT
#37
On July 13 2011 14:44 snotboogie wrote:
Please change the OP, I thought a disaster happened or something.



It's in Sc2 section so it shouldn't be a problem.. There was a similar thread on Reddit stating people who didn't hack got banned. Seems to have some truth to it. it seems to have affected more than TW.
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KaienFEMC
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 05:56:54
July 13 2011 05:49 GMT
#38
On July 13 2011 14:41 LaLuSh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 14:29 KaienFEMC wrote:
I heard several cases from my friends, since we are a Taiwanese clan who play on both NA and TW servers. Two of our clan members had their account banned in TW server, and one of the guy hasn't really been active at all for the past 2 months.

There are two more cases that seemed interesting.

One had added a 7-days trial TW-SC2 serial to his NA-SC2 account half an year ago. One added a full TW-SC2 liscense to his NA-SC2 account couple months ago. Both of them had their NA-SC2 account banned. The first guy of course can not check his TW-SC2 status since it was only a 7-day trial. The second guy however, can still log on to TW-SC2 with the account. No 3rd party program was used to log on to B.net. They both downloaded and installed TW-SC2 client in a separate folder.

Is there anymore people who bounded more than two accounts from different regions to one e-mail address and got hit by the ban hammer??


Maybe it's got something to do with using that relocalizer program.


They downloaded TW client just to avoid these kind of programs that may potentially causes a ban though...

Also, for the people asking how many people are getting banned and at what time period.
It seemed to occur simultaneously, which happened this morning (july 13rd Taiwan time).
It is hard to estimate the number of people getting banned, but I would guess in the ranges of hundreds (judging by the amount of posters on forums and bbs).
However, many of these people are taking parts in clans (Master/Grand Master competitive play) and even progaming scene (Taiwanese proleague TeSL players). So the voices are much louder. Some people gets all their accounts banned (KR/TW/NA), some people only got one of the many accounts banned. It is a very bizarre situation right now..


Edit: I just heard another case. This guy transferred his TW account to NA server (which was available to TW players a while ago), and his "current" NA account also got hit by the ban hammer.
I begin to suspect some database error in the TW server....
jayin07
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan13 Posts
July 13 2011 05:57 GMT
#39
Ive been banned,this is ridiculous

I havn't play TW server for a long time,but i just got banned today
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 06:20:51
July 13 2011 06:04 GMT
#40
If there was a mishap, Blizzard will fix it. But with the way warden works if there was a detection a week or two ago (or even MONTHS ago), it would make sense to ban the accounts during the merger. Warden just doesnt fuck up. There are occasionally reversals where large groups of people get banned for something they did not know was wrong (this could be whats happening, some program injecting and changing memory), but tbh, I'm kinda skeptical about it being a mistake. Guess blizzard just f'd up hard? It's hard to say because maphacks were so common in BW. And the language barrier between NA and the rest of the world aids in preventing cheaters from asia and europe from getting caught (as blizzard employees who manage warden probably aren't on top of every cheat/3rdparty software/pirate site in multiple languages). Delayed bans is how Blizzard works. I'm curious to see how this plays out though. But sorry, cheaters are cheaters, lying and cheating goes hand in hand, and although i'm not trying to point any fingers (guy above me), guilty until proven innocent I guess ;/ . Perhaps these bannings are tied to Blizzards war against drop hackers, perhaps they stepped up their anti-cheat game when the ladder was completely FUBAR for a week or two. These are the results of that war mistake or not.

I cannot really remember a time when blizzard banned incorrectly, however there were some vac ban reversals on steam a while back. Just the nature with delayed bans, people thought they were safe and then boom, one day they've been banned. Best way to go about banning cheaters also.
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