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demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
July 06 2011 04:14 GMT
#141
Well at least we got some justice today
We march to victory!
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
July 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#142
probably sent him to bronze because he might not be the hacker :/ probably he gave out his password to 'i'll help you get to GM if you want'. and as long as they don't ban him, he has incentives to give out info of how people go around hacking probably. and yeah, all in the same bronze division @.@
xd
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
July 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#143
He got sent to a special hacker league where they pit against each other and see who has the best drop hack micro.
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AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
July 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#144
Hahaha they should make a banned league where banned people can only play banned people. They should also not inform the hackers that they have been caught. This way people just keep on having hack fights.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
July 06 2011 04:17 GMT
#145
Blizzard needs to look for more troll punishments.

Forever finding a match, 3-2- players dropped for hackers. Losing points for a win and losing points for a loss.

Blizzard can have a field day having some fun: why ban when you can troll.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Voltus
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia30 Posts
July 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#146
My personal opinion is that this is the immediate response. Basically Blizzard move ppl on ladders by creating new divisions for people with similar MMR. So essentially all they had to do was to change all the hackers MMR to a similar level ( in this case it would be a minus number) and move them to the same division, then lock that division. ( isolates most of them). I imagine this would free up the GM leagues while the division lock is in place, and it gives them at least 2 weeks to work on a more permanent solution.

I personally stand for Blocking IP's of known hackers.
To people saying they wont do this due to revenue? you don't realize that having hackers in the game will do more damage to revenue than removing them?

how many people left games like counterstrike because of hacks?
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
July 06 2011 04:21 GMT
#147
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


If true, I heartily agree with this move by blizzard. Keeping them locked in bronze for 2 weeks and then banning them, hopefully the patch out the drop hack as well. I want Vibe to get back to the top slot!
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
July 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#148
The bronze league created may just be a way for Blizzard to collect data from these specific accounts into how they hack. That or this new league is a corral before they mass ban the accounts (I'm aware many hackers use guest account passes).
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
July 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#149
On July 06 2011 13:17 CeriseCherries wrote:
Blizzard needs to look for more troll punishments.

Forever finding a match, 3-2- players dropped for hackers. Losing points for a win and losing points for a loss.

Blizzard can have a field day having some fun: why ban when you can troll.


They should pit them against an AI which drophacks the hackers every game, they are either bound to know whats up or complain, Blizzard should just respond "You have been trolled".
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th2pun1sh3r
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States107 Posts
July 06 2011 05:09 GMT
#150
On July 06 2011 06:55 qqK wrote:
It's all about who has the fastest drophack now.


Its funny you say that because I was actually looking at the build orders of the highest ranked players in GM and I happened to find a drop hacker vs drop hacker game. One of them had the faster drop, lol.
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ArmyyStrongg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States39 Posts
July 06 2011 05:12 GMT
#151
damn thats fucking crazy, ive never been drop hacked but dont look forward to the day i do
cheat till you win
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 06 2011 05:14 GMT
#152
I'm going to figure that its a clever way of Blizzard to acquire more information about this guy. It is pretty comical that they put them all in the same division though.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 05:16:23
July 06 2011 05:15 GMT
#153
One difficulty is that usually guest accounts are used for the hacking. I wonder if Blizzard keeps track of which guest accounts are connected to which CD keys/game accounts. If so, I further wonder if it would be feasible for them to send out a warning (update EULA) that any account whose guest pass is used for hacking/banned will cause them to be banned for the next season of multiplayer or worse.

These accounts must come from somewhere, I imagine that there are stooges on hacker forums providing their extra guest passes and it would be helpful if they could be dissuaded.
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
July 06 2011 05:16 GMT
#154
putting them in bronze league is quite insulting for real bronze players. i suggest putting them in a league call the cheater's league only made for hackers.
moshi moshi~
Jedi Master
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany185 Posts
July 06 2011 05:19 GMT
#155
Why did they not banned this piece of shit? He will hack again... I got dropped so much - don't know if it was hacking all the time, but was most of the time right at the start of the game and I hate these retard-kiddy-hackers.

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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 05:23:10
July 06 2011 05:20 GMT
#156
On July 06 2011 13:20 Voltus wrote:
My personal opinion is that this is the immediate response. Basically Blizzard move ppl on ladders by creating new divisions for people with similar MMR. So essentially all they had to do was to change all the hackers MMR to a similar level ( in this case it would be a minus number) and move them to the same division, then lock that division. ( isolates most of them). I imagine this would free up the GM leagues while the division lock is in place, and it gives them at least 2 weeks to work on a more permanent solution.

I personally stand for Blocking IP's of known hackers.
To people saying they wont do this due to revenue? you don't realize that having hackers in the game will do more damage to revenue than removing them?

how many people left games like counterstrike because of hacks?

You do realize it takes the majority of internet users mere minutes to change their IP right? Banning by IP is one of the most ineffective ways of removing someone from your service. It's not about revenue... It's a nonsensical form of punishment. What happens when the IP banned user resets his modem and gets a new ip? What happens then when a different user is then assigned that IP? what happens when the next 100 people who obtain that IP for a brief period of time try to use the service? Honestly...

The only way to go about it is to permanently ban the account.
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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
July 06 2011 05:21 GMT
#157
ahahahaha, they should make a drop hacker league now. Drop hacker vs Drop hacker, WHO WILL WIN....only hacks will tell.
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
July 06 2011 05:24 GMT
#158
pretty sure that the creation of this thread gives that hacker the 5 seconds of fame that made all that hacking worth it
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
July 06 2011 05:31 GMT
#159
It's kind of disgusting how many of you don't understand how any of the ladder system works. When Blizzard bans, the account has to stay in the system due to the way MMR works, most likely. We saw this with PiLLaGe and that other drophacker. Any hacker not in GM but banned anyways will stay in their league, frozen with their current ladder stash, simply looking like they stopped playing one day.

The only news here is that they've found some way to forcibly eject people from GM without bonus pool naturally accumulating.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
July 06 2011 05:39 GMT
#160
On July 06 2011 14:31 aksfjh wrote:
It's kind of disgusting how many of you don't understand how any of the ladder system works. When Blizzard bans, the account has to stay in the system due to the way MMR works, most likely. We saw this with PiLLaGe and that other drophacker. Any hacker not in GM but banned anyways will stay in their league, frozen with their current ladder stash, simply looking like they stopped playing one day.

The only news here is that they've found some way to forcibly eject people from GM without bonus pool naturally accumulating.


Don't forget that removing accounts completely would mess up the match history of those who played against them. Removing a player is almost impossible, they can just lock the account.
Also, in this case they probably moved the drophackers only because they were in Grandmasters, which is used for blizzcon invites, and having drophackers there would mess up the statistics.
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