On July 01 2011 15:01 Treva wrote: I feel so bad for the people at Blizzard that have to put up with customers who say stupid shit like "Just change your code." or "It's been 3 days why hasn't a patch come out yet? They must not care or know what they are doing."....... Like telling a football team losing a game to "Just score a touchdown and win." No wrong in expressing anger because this is actually ruining the ladder and does need to be addressed but at the same time some people need to stop thinking they can find out all the information on this hack in 2 days and write up a quick patch during a lunch break. Blizzard's not going to let SC2 die to hackers and give up on this game after one year. Yeah it sucks but we all have to deal with it and there's nothing you can do right now except wait for Blizzard to fix it, which they will.
This isn't a new hack; They've been around for months. What concerns me is that in a few days the attention seeking hackers like fake Idra and before that Pillage get banned and then everyone thinks we're fine.
Meanwhile the majority of cheaters keep doing what they've been doing.
On July 01 2011 07:05 Ghostpvp wrote: Out of curiosity is this happening on EU, SEA, and/or Korea?
Happened me yesterday in SEA. Lagged immediately. I thought that it was my opponent whose name is Zerg. I then see my name appearing so I immediately tried to google something and it worked. Needless to say, I was dropped eventually. I am not happy to be cheated like this. Do something Blizzard.
Edit: I checked his history after that, he is won like 10 games on a row within 1 hour.
Well, it looks like at least 3 players made it into GM with drop hacks. At the very least, I wish Blizzard had something to "protect" GM spots from being invaded by hackers...
On July 01 2011 15:23 aksfjh wrote: Well, it looks like at least 3 players made it into GM with drop hacks. At the very least, I wish Blizzard had something to "protect" GM spots from being invaded by hackers...
With what. If there were a "this player has been Warden flagged" column in the player row, then I suppose that would work for limited things. But of course, most things like this appear to bypass Warden detection.
Otherwise, one could perhaps prevent guest accounts from reaching GM. Further than that, one might have a time delay based on recent gains and stuff, but at some point it starts feeling really randomly constructed and probably pointless.
Yeah, maybe Blizzard should send David Kim out in the GM ladder and have him ban everyone who drophacks him to start while they are working on a permanent fix.
I checked the replay. With the current Sc2gears (6.0.3) actions cannot be parsed. So I looked into the binary data, and I can confirm that the player EGldrA (which is not the Idra everyone knows) in this replay indeed hacked, used action spamming probably to cause lag.
The next version of Sc2gears will be able to parse these replays.
oh good old wc3 ladder. drop-hackers, lag-hackers, resource-hackers, tower-hackers (the invincible building hack) and map-hackers oh my! Playing the ladder on that was pretty close to a scavenger hunt where you got to see how many different types of hackers you could get matched against in a day.
You forgot about the best one!
Nothing else to be said about this. Blizzard's prerogative to fix the game. They tied everybody into Battle.net 2.0, they get to fix the problems with the service.
Just happened to me twice, first time was to a fake egincontrol, 19-0, all really short games, the second time was to terrangirl. The second person didn't even bother making any buildings or probes.
The hilarious thing is when i look at terrangirls match history, her only losses are to other lag hackers lol. That must be fun, when both of you are trying to lag each other out.
EDIT: ok that's 3 out of my first 4 games today, wtf is going on? this person just lifted off and waited for me to lag out lol
On July 01 2011 15:32 duk3 wrote: Yeah, maybe Blizzard should send David Kim out in the GM ladder and have him ban everyone who drophacks him to start while they are working on a permanent fix.
On July 01 2011 15:01 Treva wrote: I feel so bad for the people at Blizzard that have to put up with customers who say stupid shit like "Just change your code." or "It's been 3 days why hasn't a patch come out yet? They must not care or know what they are doing."....... Like telling a football team losing a game to "Just score a touchdown and win." No wrong in expressing anger because this is actually ruining the ladder and does need to be addressed but at the same time some people need to stop thinking they can find out all the information on this hack in 2 days and write up a quick patch during a lunch break. Blizzard's not going to let SC2 die to hackers and give up on this game after one year. Yeah it sucks but we all have to deal with it and there's nothing you can do right now except wait for Blizzard to fix it, which they will.
This isn't a new hack; They've been around for months. What concerns me is that in a few days the attention seeking hackers like fake Idra and before that Pillage get banned and then everyone thinks we're fine.
Meanwhile the majority of cheaters keep doing what they've been doing.
The method used by the hack is probably new (to you, a layman, it appears the same but the background of it is different). You dont honestly think they would let the same method be used for the last year, do you?
On July 01 2011 15:01 Treva wrote: I feel so bad for the people at Blizzard that have to put up with customers who say stupid shit like "Just change your code." or "It's been 3 days why hasn't a patch come out yet? They must not care or know what they are doing."....... Like telling a football team losing a game to "Just score a touchdown and win." No wrong in expressing anger because this is actually ruining the ladder and does need to be addressed but at the same time some people need to stop thinking they can find out all the information on this hack in 2 days and write up a quick patch during a lunch break. Blizzard's not going to let SC2 die to hackers and give up on this game after one year. Yeah it sucks but we all have to deal with it and there's nothing you can do right now except wait for Blizzard to fix it, which they will.
This isn't a new hack; They've been around for months. What concerns me is that in a few days the attention seeking hackers like fake Idra and before that Pillage get banned and then everyone thinks we're fine.
Meanwhile the majority of cheaters keep doing what they've been doing.
The method used by the hack is probably new (to you, a layman, it appears the same but the background of it is different). You dont honestly think they would let the same method be used for the last year, do you?
If it actually was a private hack before then yes, it probably has probably been in use for months now.
you can only protect the server against known hacks.
There is no way in hell you can build a system that is 100% clear from any kind of attacks.
Antiviruses work the same way. They can only notice/remove known viruses. The only thing that 'defenders'' can do is react quickly and update their database.
As far as I know, blizzard is starting to ban some of these hackers. Not that it was the fastest reaction we should expect as customers, but they seem to be working on it.
However, i'm pretty sure there will be a new kind of hack, or newer versions of the current ones that is created/popularized after the current ones (lag/drop) stop being an issue. (I'm pretty sure the sudden resurgance of these 'hacks' is a 'new' version that blizzard could not detect.)
On July 01 2011 15:32 duk3 wrote: Yeah, maybe Blizzard should send David Kim out in the GM ladder and have him ban everyone who drophacks him to start while they are working on a permanent fix.
david kim would need to play on a fake ID. You've got to have balls to drop hack "dayvie".
u cant not NOT blame blizzard about this. They force everyone to use bnet 2.0 with the MAIN purposed to control everything from the top sever which including hacker. This type of hack is not new, It has been out there seen season 1, season 2, and now publicly released. If you try to protect blizzard, try to ask them why dont they spend more time to make a "complete" game instead of making a broken system for hacker to take adv. of.
Non of us has ever like BNet 2.0, a better version of it could be found 12 years ago on diablo 2 or Broodwar no problem. The ping, the chat channel, the clan support, no INPUT LIMIT REACHED... all we was hoping for is this 2.0 version at least hack proof and it is not.
If there was a iccup esque ladder, this wouldn't happen. Drop hackers and map hacks would be dealt with a lot quicker. You also wouldn't waste your time playing deezer and combatex.
On July 01 2011 16:44 NB wrote: u cant not NOT blame blizzard about this. They force everyone to use bnet 2.0 with the MAIN purposed to control everything from the top sever which including hacker. This type of hack is not new, It has been out there seen season 1, season 2, and now publicly released. If you try to protect blizzard, try to ask them why dont they spend more time to make a "complete" game instead of making a broken system for hacker to take adv. of.
Non of us has ever like BNet 2.0, a better version of it could be found 12 years ago on diablo 2 or Broodwar no problem. The ping, the chat channel, the clan support, no INPUT LIMIT REACHED... all we was hoping for is this 2.0 version at least hack proof and it is not.
You can however understand blizzard's decision to not ban anyone right away. They did the same with wow. If you ban a player the instant your anti hack tool detects the hack, he will warn cheat creator and new version will come out. If you wait a week or two and then ban everyone detected, you catch a lot more people. It sucks to get this kind of abuse in the ladder, but just take it and continue playing your game, blizzard won't let them get away with it.
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