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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
December 15 2011 01:27 GMT
#1461
On December 15 2011 10:06 Angelbelow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 09:51 mememolly wrote:
hey sirscoots what about idra not turning up to MLG 7th/8th placed games against haypro etc?

hasnt idra done that a couple of times at MLG?

EG jumping on the high morality bandwagon


Assuming that youre uninformed... IdrA did not do that on purpose. He was supporting Huk and missed the call. A number of team managers have said that it happens a lot because its different to hear the call.

2nd, those consolation matches are not streamed and no one will watch them over the championship matches that go on concurrently. The stage of a consolation match vs. a prestigious tournament meant to showcase the best players in the world is worlds a part.


I'll just add something that a bunch of other people have said already about the MLG consolation games - most of the time BOTH players agree to just flip a coin.
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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
December 15 2011 01:46 GMT
#1462
On December 15 2011 10:27 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 10:06 Angelbelow wrote:
On December 15 2011 09:51 mememolly wrote:
hey sirscoots what about idra not turning up to MLG 7th/8th placed games against haypro etc?

hasnt idra done that a couple of times at MLG?

EG jumping on the high morality bandwagon


Assuming that youre uninformed... IdrA did not do that on purpose. He was supporting Huk and missed the call. A number of team managers have said that it happens a lot because its different to hear the call.

2nd, those consolation matches are not streamed and no one will watch them over the championship matches that go on concurrently. The stage of a consolation match vs. a prestigious tournament meant to showcase the best players in the world is worlds a part.


I'll just add something that a bunch of other people have said already about the MLG consolation games - most of the time BOTH players agree to just flip a coin.

consos are not casted or streamed live.

its about appearances, is what you guys are not getting.
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latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
December 15 2011 02:14 GMT
#1463
hey guys do you remember on IPL 3 that a group (that included 3 korean players and thorzain iirc) was not played and instead decided by luck?
buzzkill568
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada56 Posts
December 15 2011 02:48 GMT
#1464
are there VODS of Live on three?
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 15 2011 04:11 GMT
#1465
- Scoots: You're all young people, you will grow stronger. Huk learned from his NASL thing. People need to give you slack, you don't have the paid staff to tell you how to act. People will keep stepping into shit, the scene is young. Let's move on.


Scoots is a smart man. Tolerance and understanding is critical.
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 04:22:46
December 15 2011 04:22 GMT
#1466
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 15 2011 10:12 tnud wrote:
Reposting this from another thread (my "LR"), fits better here:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 09:28 The Stapler wrote:
Naniwa is on Live on Three right now and just said himself that he thought he had a Code S spot after Providence

Thanks for the heads up, listening right now.
"LR"
- He thought he had a seed for Code S
- He had no idea why it was such a big deal
- After all this he realised that people wanted to see Nani vs Nestea rematch.
- Didn't realise what the koreans thought about it.
- I guess I will just have to accept what happened and try to requalify.
Do you feel like GOMs new statement is strange?
- GOM never said that they would give me a Code S seed, all other sourced did though. Neither MLG or GSL is going back on their word I'm very confused.
- SirScoots: Players are on both sides of this fence (Idra/Huk examples), the format is stupid. I wish they would have let you forfeit. Firm believer that every match should mean something. Naniwa was the guinea-pig, make every match mean something if it's going to be played. As the team guy he wants players to give it their all. "It's just not me and nestea anymore, it's his fans, it's my fans". (Note that because of this he got players into Code S, ofcourse he won't completely side with Naniwa). (He cleared this up, Idra was getting in anyways) Attacks GOM for vague rules. This would not have happened if there was a clear rule that matches should not be thrown. Takes up the notion that Naniwa is the bad guy, this probably would not have happened the same way with for example TLO.
- Naniwa did not ask to not play that match.
- Slasher, MLG (HOLY SHIT HE SHAVED, LOOKS 20 YEARS YOUNGER): I don't know shit. I don't represent anything.
- Wheat: Even if it is miscommunication, Naniwa is the victim.
- "When I realised how koreans see it I understand I fucked up. Their definition of progamer is different, it's not making a living of it, it's pride and honour and such".
- Nani (Regarding StarTale house): The Startale guys were never any problems. It was his first place in korea and it's were he feels at home. He got no problems with the Startale guys.
- TL:DR from Wheat: Now that Naniwa see it in the Korean perspective he shouldn't have done that.
Do you feel that you're still getting shit even though you've apologised?
- Nani I hope they can realise I did not think the same way as them. (Something about cultural difference) I hope that eventually they'll give me another shot.
- Nani: I missed the bigger picture.
- Slasher: He feels for Naniwa, he enjoys a proper fake match then a hidden one.
- Slasher hyping up the match and still doesn't find it that bad.
- Scoots: None of the matches are meaningless for the playing viewers. You did not "entertain".
- Slasher: It's frikking meaningless..
- MLG wouldn't have done anything, different culture.
- Wheat: Going forward how important is this thing going forward for "BM" players
- Nani: Not so much about the korean culture, I didn't think of anything then myself in that moment. An advice would always to think of the bigger picture.
- Scoots: Players need to think of it as a job, paid to play, paid to preform. Organizers should also look at themselves and avoid this situation. Naniwa has gotten a lot of shit lately, noone needs this amount in their life. Naniwa has sent a message with his actions.
- Wheat asks about Quantics reaction:
- Nani: Did not expect them to stand with him, he thought he was done. He would have quit if Quantic dumped him. They have been really supportive and will for sure repay them.
- Wheat: What do you value more walking away from this situation, what have you learned?
- Nani: Being a progamer is very fragile, I will never go 50%, I will always go 100% from here on.
- Scoots: You're all young people, you will grow stronger. Huk learned from his NASL thing. People need to give you slack, you don't have the paid staff to tell you how to act. People will keep stepping into shit, the scene is young. Let's move on.
- Wheat : Is the Naniwa going out of this a new Naniwa
- Nani: It's not like I'm trying to kill Esports, I didn't know what I was doing. Changed Naniwa? I don't know, I've learned.
- Scoots hoping for GOM to change too.

- Slasher hyping the first 3 games being really close, How close are you to the top?
- Nani: Nani saying he was kinda jetlagged, bad excuse, doesn't like bo1.
- Slasher: Do you think bo1 hurts you?
- Nani: It's ok in a group stage, but considering the status of the tournament they should have gone with bo3.
>>>Final questions<<<
- Wheat: Thinks nani has gained some fans, people are liking the reflection. How do you feel about your fans, what kind of emotional attachment do you have with them. Any words? Plans to interact more
- Nani: I have gotten a lot of shit for a lot of things. I thought it would be easier if I didn't think about it. It really warms my heart when I read nice comments on TL. I really want to make my country proud. I hope they will keep with me during all this.
- Scoots: Still has the support from the Swedish fans?
- Nani: Definitely.

- Scoots: Plans for the holiday?
- Nani: I don't have time to spare, no holidays. I will practise as hard as I can, I feel like I'm living on borrowed time.
- Slasher: Wow, don't feel that way, you're one of the 2 foreigners there.. Good luck in Code A!
Thanks
- Thanks to my fans and especially my team, did not expect them to keep with me.


Reading this actually made me a brighter person. NaNi going for the kill next time. Calling it :D.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
December 15 2011 04:30 GMT
#1467
Was fun sticking around after the show to chat with scoots! Always insightful =]
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
December 15 2011 05:34 GMT
#1468
Sounds to me like the biggest offender and the biggest victim in all of this is the community itself. And also the one that's overreacting the most.

Naniwa vs. Nestea: Probe suicide. Unprofessional but understandable.
Response: Code S declined. It was never guaranteed. Nani himself says Gom never said they'd give him Code S. Seems a level handed response. No actual punishment was doled out. I don't even get the impression that Nani saw himself as a victim - until the shitstorm started.

Mistranslation occurs that antagonized the situation. Translators misrepresenting peoples' actual statements. Shitstorm ensues. Naniwa's the victim. No, Naniwa's the devil. No, Gom's the devil - boycott Gom. sigh

E-sports is hurting E-sports. I hope the year doesn't end on such a sad note.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
December 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#1469
On December 15 2011 11:48 buzzkill568 wrote:
are there VODS of Live on three?

VODs for regularly broadcasted OneMoreGame shows can be found in their TwitchTV archives:

http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/302625376
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 09:04:52
December 15 2011 06:54 GMT
#1470
On December 15 2011 11:14 latan wrote:
hey guys do you remember on IPL 3 that a group (that included 3 korean players and thorzain iirc) was not played and instead decided by luck?


Or the two forfeited games in pool D where Idra chose not to play "due to fatigue", a call I believe Scoots approved. I bet the fans would have loved to see those games against MMA & TheStC.

Edit: Listening to the episode and he covers that.
Edit2: Everything gets covered in a very satisfying way. Closure
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brrip
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom211 Posts
December 18 2011 09:53 GMT
#1471
i'm not sure if it's better or worse that naniwa probe rushed without trying to forfeit the match.

if he'd asked, people can argue that gomtv was being unreasonable and naniwa was pissed off so he decided to troll them. if this had happened and gomtv said no, i still think it would have been fair because he was being paid to turn up, or finish last in his case.

now that he didn't even bother asking, it's like... okay one more game. it's against nestea. maybe i should ask to forfeit because this match doesn't even matter. OR i could i could go down with a bang by probe rushing. mmhmm. controversy. OKAY LETS GO.

as far as the TLO argument goes, i'll talk about jinro here because I have a HUGE amount of respect for jinro, where for TLO it's just a somewhat bland awww. I think if the same thing had happened to jinro for taking it too far during the group pickings for huk, the punishment is still a fair one. (even though i feel like he was being an awesome human being for standing up for his friend, and his friend's friend.) sure, i'd have been pissed off at gomtv for being particularly harsh about it, but i guess even gomtv saw that there was no ill intent in jinro's decision. similar motivations can hardly be found in naniwa's case no matter how you try to spin it.

i'm only referencing the jinro incident because of the fact that it involves gomtv, their vague rules and a foreign player controversy. i'm NOT comparing the issues. i chose jinro as my control because i'm a huge fan and would gladly have his babies even though i'm a dude. :D
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
December 22 2011 01:15 GMT
#1472
Got a special announcement coming up next!
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
December 22 2011 01:17 GMT
#1473
scoots rockin the santa hat and pedo stache
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
December 22 2011 01:42 GMT
#1474
On December 22 2011 10:15 Slasher wrote:
Got a special announcement coming up next!


Can't tune in v_v, someone wanna update when announcement is made?
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 22 2011 01:53 GMT
#1475
Special announcement = awards show for Episode 100 also Slasher is baked. Enough so that Wheat had to tell him to shut up and make the announcement himself.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
December 22 2011 02:00 GMT
#1476
On December 15 2011 14:34 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
E-sports is hurting E-sports. I hope the year doesn't end on such a sad note.

LOL YES THIS SEEMS TO BE TRUE...

Its always nice to hear veterans of the scene say some thoughtful shit
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Venerac
Profile Joined December 2010
United States201 Posts
December 24 2011 00:50 GMT
#1477
Anyone remember what the ridiculously long title they gave for Slasher's award show? xD
Proud listener of "Starcast: The Starcraft Podcast". SlayerS_BoxeR//White-Ra//djWHEAT <3<3
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
December 24 2011 00:57 GMT
#1478
Something along the lines of "The 23rd Annual eSports and Cyber Athleticism Achievement Awards in Virtual Professional Gaming" =P
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
January 11 2012 20:14 GMT
#1479
Is this show on tonight or what? I love Wheat, but if I'm going to be critical of something it is scheduling. The shows all usually start late by sometimes as much as 20 minutes, and on days when they aren't going to be on there is usually nothing clearly posted to indicate that, just look at today. Minor annoyance for some great shows, but the level of professionalism would go up if he could fix these small things.
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 20:18:27
January 11 2012 20:17 GMT
#1480
On January 12 2012 05:14 Duravi wrote:
Is this show on tonight or what? I love Wheat, but if I'm going to be critical of something it is scheduling. The shows all usually start late by sometimes as much as 20 minutes, and on days when they aren't going to be on there is usually nothing clearly posted to indicate that, just look at today. Minor annoyance for some great shows, but the level of professionalism would go up if he could fix these small things.


OneMoreGameTV tweeted
Happy Monday everyone! Just a quick reminder that there will be NO SHOWS this week due to #CES. We'll see you next week! 2 days ago


unfortunately no shows this week :<
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