Destiny released from Complexity - Page 22

On June 23 2011 07:44 Clbull wrote:

As offtopic as this thread is getting, I will answer those questions, but I am not sure what point related to Destiny you're making with this.

1) IdrA initially got banned for 2 days (iirc he called CrunCher a 'waste of life') then this got extended to 90 days after he posted about his TL ban and encouraged his fans through Twitter to spam Chill with PMs on TeamLiquid to express their (probably negative) opinions of the decision to ban IdrA from TL. Needless to say, that was a bad move on IdrA's part because he effectively angered a hornet's nest, figuratively speaking

2) HDStarcraft got picked up by a team? This is news to me. I checked both Liquipedia and did several google searches and saw nothing about it. However, a few popular casters/players have been picked up by teams before i.e. Vile picking up PsyStarcraft and Sixjax picking up Artosis.

3) Yes, Destiny did qualify for IPL Season 2, proving that he can indeed compete with the best players on NA.

On June 23 2011 07:44 Clbull wrote:

As offtopic as this thread is getting, I will answer those questions, but I am not sure what point related to Destiny you're making with this.

1) IdrA initially got banned for 2 days (iirc he called CrunCher a 'waste of life') then this got extended to 90 days after he posted about his TL ban and encouraged his fans through Twitter to spam Chill with PMs on TeamLiquid to express their (probably negative) opinions of the decision to ban IdrA from TL. Needless to say, that was a bad move on IdrA's part because he effectively angered a hornet's nest, figuratively speaking

2) HDStarcraft got picked up by a team? This is news to me. I checked both Liquipedia and did several google searches and saw nothing about it. However, a few popular casters/players have been picked up by teams before i.e. Vile picking up PsyStarcraft and Sixjax picking up Artosis.

3) Yes, Destiny did qualify for IPL Season 2, proving that he can indeed compete with the best players on NA.

In my opinion, I feel bad for Destiny. The one big built-from-the-ground team where I felt he belonged had been assimilated into a much larger multi-game e-sports clan. It's kinda like when you're in a really nice guild on WoW and they merge with a much larger guild to create something huge, but probably with different values which some players may disagree with.

Not saying that I'm not going to continue ROOTing for CompLexity, because I didn't think the merger was necessarily bad plus I like some of their players (i.e. CrunCher, CatZ, Drewbie etc.) However, I hope another team does sign Destiny, maybe Sixjax, Vile, Reign, FXOpen or even Team Dignitas

On June 23 2011 07:40 coL.Minigun wrote:
How is it that anything posted on team liquid turns to drama. There is so little drama to be had here, it's being extremely exaggerated.

No one is angry at each other, destiny didn't think col was for him, and was somewhat pressured to join with most of the other root members.

Let it be.

But now that the topic of idra has come up, I can't help but chip in, telling me to kill myself multiple times, isn't exactly "toning it down".

Col and destiny just didn't work out. That's all it is...let it be....

On June 23 2011 07:50 leo23 wrote:


LOL? he faced Capoch (ZvP) who intelligently went for clever all-ins in 2 of the 3 games. Please don't spread lies like you are right now. He went ahead and BM'ed Capoch but that's another story.

On June 23 2011 07:38 sirkyan wrote:
Although Steven himself has given responses himself I'd still like to speak my mind regarding my perception of Steven. I do think it's relevant to some degree considering how he acts and, by extension, present himself to the community is the underlying "issue".

I have spent countless hours on his stream. What keeps me coming back is, besides his gameplay, his intellect.

He is bad mannered at times but I believe it is in good fun. Rarely have I felt that he actually got mad or even irritated about losing a game, even if the opponent says something mingy. I like his rather loose take on the games as individual games which in contrast to his take on the game in general is, for me, spirit hightening and, I don't know. It's a nice thing. "Lose the battle win the war" kind of mentality. At least that's what I feel. I can be wrong however, it's subjective.

Further elaborating I believe this could be a product of him being highly logical. I don't get the feeling he is "anti-establishment", an anarchist or any kind of synonym. He does act in a special way, truly. Taking his outspoken values into account however I don't think anything he does is not based on logic. He is definitely consistent with how he acts and it's easy to follow his train of thought when he explains any of his actions, theorycrafts or similar simply because it's seemingly flawless.

Steven is most definitely very intelligent. I don't think anyone who has spent any number of hours will tell you differently. His theorycrafting is very strong. His arguments are rock solid. His actions are justifiable. He is truly a cerebral. Which brings me to my actual point if it has been unclear so far: Steven has tremendous potential. His will to grow and improve is impressive. If he sticks at it he will undoubtedly be one of the greats.

How does this relate back to the coL-situaion? It doesn't necessarily. But it does present my view on his future possibilities. If the two sides reached an agreement where a departion was for the best I am sure that was indeed for the best.

Okay! I'm sorry for any linguistic or grammatical errors or if anything is unclear !

On June 23 2011 07:40 coL.Minigun wrote:
How is it that anything posted on team liquid turns to drama. There is so little drama to be had here, it's being extremely exaggerated.

No one is angry at each other, destiny didn't think col was for him, and was somewhat pressured to join with most of the other root members.

Let it be.

But now that the topic of idra has come up, I can't help but chip in, telling me to kill myself multiple times, isn't exactly "toning it down".

Col and destiny just didn't work out. That's all it is...let it be....

On June 23 2011 07:52 drooL wrote:


what do you expect man. people need something to talk about.

On June 23 2011 07:30 Bellygareth wrote:
Edit: besides, is there not a probation phase for any employment contract in the US? Don't you guys have at least 1 month to decide not to stay in a company?

On June 23 2011 07:58 Kaitlin wrote:
Earlier today I was watching HuK stream to about 1.5k viewers, coming off his win at Dreamhack. At the same time, Destiny had 4.5k viewers on his stream. I'm not sure why Destiny needs a team or should even be on one. He's a personality in the SC2 community, much like IdrA (obviously not to IdrA's skill), and his streams are quite entertaining for his viewers. It's perfectly understandable for "corporate image" types to not be interested in having him represent them, but it doesn't mean he's Destiny is wrong in how he goes about his public image.

On June 23 2011 08:00 GwSC wrote:


That must have been when HuK first turned stream on because I specifically remember his being around 4.5k at one point.