EPTIt's actually one of the things I like most about the starcraft community: nobody gives a fuck about who you are and where your from, as long as your just a nice person.
Starcraft Patriotism! - Page 8
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
It's actually one of the things I like most about the starcraft community: nobody gives a fuck about who you are and where your from, as long as your just a nice person. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 16 2011 13:03 AustinCM wrote: Now lately I have noticed that no matter where you're from everyone loves the Korean Starcraft players. it is because of their tremendous skill and root in Starcraft and also how dedicated they are and I really commend them for this. But, it seems that not too many people are actually that patriotic about their own countrie's players. Personally I am thrilled everytime a Canadian player gets the win over some other big name, like KiWi or HuK but it doesn't seem this way for everyone. I am a huge huge huge IdrA fan and also really like NesTea but I was wondering why people don't root for their own country as much as they root for the Korean to win no matter what match it is or where it is. Instead of many Americans being really happy that IdrA was the only contender against Koreans they chose to be negative about it and put the Koreans on a pedestal instead. Maybe I get the wrong idea but what do you guys think? Do you think a lot of eSports fans are patriotic? Many of the long time members of this community are so used to there being Korean pro players... and not much else, so strongly focused on the Korean scene... and not much else, that they not only put the Koreans on a pedestal, but some people honestly are deifying these guys. A word against a Korean player is like blasphemy to those tools. :lol I still chuckle to myself when I think of the TSL3 first round games, where there were just pages of people arrogantly declaring an all-Korean semi final and podium ahead of the competition. And then them all going WHAT THE FUCK when they got owned. :lol I like to support my country's players, Hasu Socke TLO Goody I'm always cheering for these guys when they participate in a tournament. After that, I'm partial to EU players, then SEA (Moonglade <3 <3), then NA players and finally Koreans. Obviously, those are just vague guidelines, and there are lot of exceptions based on sympathy and general baller-ness like rooting for cool Koreans (Select, Keen etc) or NA players (Sheth) above other considerations. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 16 2011 21:21 Steveling wrote: We need nation wars in Starcraft 2. Make it happen e-sport gods. We had a couple before. And there's a European Championship league going on. It was definitely fun to root for Team Germany against Russia, Italy, Sweden etc. in the ESL nationwars organised by Take a couple months back. :D It's a natural thing to do for sports spectators.  | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 16 2011 13:28 wongisgreat wrote: No one chooses where they're born so it's foolish to be proud of it. Are you proud when your brother/sister/father/mother achieves something great? But you didn't choose to be born into that family. It's a natural thing to cheer for the things close to you, to be proud of the people close[r] to you. For some people that only extends to themselves, for some to their family, their friends, their country, etc etc. | ||
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mustache
Switzerland309 Posts
On June 16 2011 21:28 Bobster wrote: Are you proud when your brother/sister/father/mother achieves something great? But you didn't choose to be born into that family. It's a natural thing to cheer for the things close to you, to be proud of the people close[r] to you. For some people that only extends to themselves, for some to their family, their friends, their country, etc etc. family members =/= random guy that you don't know out of the other 300 million citizens of a country, where "country" for this purpose is nothing but a bunch of squiggly lines on a map.surely you see the difference. and even though you didnt ask me, no i wouldnt be proud, i would be happy. | ||
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stratman
Canada110 Posts
Even though I'm Canadian, I have more in common with a manner, standup Swedish player like Jinro than an absolute jerk like Drewbie (JOKING, I <3 Drewbie, this is just an example). | ||
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Alver
United States177 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 16 2011 21:42 mustache wrote: family members =/= random guy that you don't know out of the other 300 million citizens of a country, where "country" for this purpose is nothing but a bunch of squiggly lines on a map.surely you see the difference. and even though you didnt ask me, no i wouldnt be proud, i would be happy. That was exactly my point. Some people keep it close, some people cast the net of "people they feel a relation to" wider, up to the point of having the same hometown. Or coming from the same state. Or from the same county. Or from the same country. Or from the same continent - do you get what I'm saying? There's all different kinds of people - and you telling them who they can and can not feel happy for, or proud of - that's what I'm objecting to. Just as a sidenote: that you are not proud of your family members is something we don't share. I feel both a sense of happiness and pride for those close to me. edit: the most important point of all is to keep this a positive emotion. It's always better to cheer for someone than against someone. | ||
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TI83
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Arcanewinds
United Kingdom197 Posts
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Cosmos
Belgium1077 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4320 Posts
Not every country has top players so its normal that some people just root for their race or favourite players. I usually root for the player and dont care about country neither the race....if a player has a style that I enjoy watching I want them to win to see more...dont care where is he from or what race does he play....but I think that in most cases theres a player that I know better or that I like more and I root for him in that match but the next match I want him to lose because I like the other player more. Tho in the TSL qualifiers I saw some portuguese flags in the qualifiers and almost hoped they could go far (by far I mean advance one or 2 rounds lol  ) but if they were playing against some player that I like i would root for that player and dont care they're portuguese...the closest thing that I have to patriotism in SC is when there are debates with NA vs EU....in that case I will go EU all the way ^^ | ||
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KOVU
Denmark708 Posts
GO GO CIARA, JOE AND ACTIONJESUZ! Denmark fighting ~~ | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
I think zergs are all dirty. Protoss only wait for a moment to abuse there secret power to crush us terrans. I dont care what planet they are come from. its all about the race! Serious, this is a game in the internet. Country dont mean anything. But i notice that people start to root for "the own Server". Like EU vs NA. Its a good example how random people make the difference between "us" and "the others". I personal care for a) the race, i only root for terrans and b) the playstyle So non of my fav. player is german. | ||
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CryMeAReaper
Denmark1135 Posts
On June 16 2011 22:29 skeldark wrote: im more than that. im a racist. I think zergs are all dirty. Protoss only wait for a moment to abuse there secret power to crush us terrans. I dont care what planet they are come from. its all about the race! Serious, this is a game in the internet. Country dont mean anything. But i notice that people start to root for "the own Server". Like EU vs NA. Its a good example how random people make the difference between "us" and "the others". I personal care for a) the race, i only root for terrans and b) the playstyle So non of my fav. player is german. You dont like PANZERZ? | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
I appreciate mostly skill, and even if some french players are skilled like Adelscott, I was still rooting for MVP in their TSL match (and it was before Adel made dumb comments in EGMC) . I'm mostly patriotic about EU vs NA or EU vs KOR tho. I would root for Thorzain and Naniwa or Jinro and Huk against anyone else, except perhaps MKP whom I'm a fanboy of. | ||
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MagickMan
Australia498 Posts
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On June 16 2011 13:03 AustinCM wrote: Now lately I have noticed that no matter where you're from everyone loves the Korean Starcraft players. it is because of their tremendous skill and root in Starcraft and also how dedicated they are and I really commend them for this. But, it seems that not too many people are actually that patriotic about their own countrie's players. Personally I am thrilled everytime a Canadian player gets the win over some other big name, like KiWi or HuK but it doesn't seem this way for everyone. I am a huge huge huge IdrA fan and also really like NesTea but I was wondering why people don't root for their own country as much as they root for the Korean to win no matter what match it is or where it is. Instead of many Americans being really happy that IdrA was the only contender against Koreans they chose to be negative about it and put the Koreans on a pedestal instead. Maybe I get the wrong idea but what do you guys think? Do you think a lot of eSports fans are patriotic? I'm EXTREMELY patriotic. Too bad Norway is not up there with Sweden in SC2. Because of the lack of Norwegians I root for the swedes before everybody else. They are substitue-Norwegians. I have not once been rooting for a Korean when they have played any foreigner, even when the foreigner I like the least play the Korean I like the most. I have never and will never understand unpatriotic rooting in any sport. It's just weird to me and unnatural. Even in NFL were everyone is from all over the US I root for Minnesota because that's the state with most Norwegian-Americans. | ||
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