EPTThat being said, I cheer for players whose play style I like, not their country of origin. For example, I'm a big fan of Grubby, for his charisma and his WC3 legend. I'm also a HuK fan, who btw was raised in Florida and wants to move to California (take that Canada :D, jkjk).
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United States18 Posts
That being said, I cheer for players whose play style I like, not their country of origin. For example, I'm a big fan of Grubby, for his charisma and his WC3 legend. I'm also a HuK fan, who btw was raised in Florida and wants to move to California (take that Canada :D, jkjk). | ||
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On June 16 2011 21:25 Bobster wrote: Many of the long time members of this community are so used to there being Korean pro players... and not much else, so strongly focused on the Korean scene... and not much else, that they not only put the Koreans on a pedestal, but some people honestly are deifying these guys. A word against a Korean player is like blasphemy to those tools. ...and there are plenty of reactionary tools who go overboard in the other direction. I don't think I need to point out the myriad of fools who cry "OMG KOREAN ELITISM" while almost exclusively glorifying players from their own region/nation. I agree wholeheartedly with your first point. For example, I'm Chinese, grew up in China, had half of my primary/secondary schooling in the States, and consider myself relatively patriotic when it comes to my homeland; but, I grew up watching BW, so I almost exclusively root for Koreans, even against other Chinese players. Like in the Starswar tournament, I found myself rooting for the Koreans against the Chinese almost every time until XiaOt against MC, where I only rooted for XiaOt because of my distaste for MC. | ||
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MrDonkeyBong
Canada103 Posts
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Mateo0
France112 Posts
I was a huge fan of TOD in war3! (GO MOMAN AT NASL xD) | ||
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
I do however always feel a good bit of pride when I see Canadians in the SC2 community doing the Yeoman's work of a Chill and Kennigit. Also when Canadians win I definitely feel some secret subconscious pride, like when Slush did so well this MLG. EDIT: I feel most proud when I see a random player. GuineaPig and TLO are two of my top ProGamer crushes. When its GP vs anyone I'm cheering for him. TLO less now that he switched to Terran, but I still cheer for him. Too bad about his wrists D = I think there's more "racism" than anything else in SC2. Zergs like to cheer for Zergs, Toss for toss, and terrans for Terrans. Random's are so rare that I always go gah gah when I see them. It's too bad GuMiOh switched to Terran : X | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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Sinborn
United States275 Posts
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United States6173 Posts
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dubRa
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 Dimaga, Nerchio, Strelok, Kas, Nightend, White-Ra fighting! Oh and EU>KR>US But I don't take this too seriously. I also like Major, Huk, MMA | ||
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Dyme
Germany523 Posts
That said, TLO is the most wonderful human being on our planet. InControl said "people are acting like he invented the nuke, hahaha" and then TLO nuked him at MLG. Pure entertainment. Goody is funny because everyone says "he always goes mech" and then he goes mech and wins. Funny! Mondragon countering air with roaches? Yay! But I like them disregarding their nationality. Socke and HasuObs are Protoss, therefore I am always against them. I really don't see how nationalism can even have any place in our globalized internetsy world. And why does everyone like Koreans so much? Because Koreans own white dudes. And they invented E-SPORTS (kind of). | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
I just really dislike 99% of non-Asian players' attitudes. They seem very unprofessional and overall very silly. | ||
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United States594 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On June 17 2011 05:55 CPTBadAss wrote: I just love me the NA teams. I'm still teary about the ROOT boys breaking up, but at least coL is half American =). And the guys in EG are awesome too. I mean I like individual players but I'm always on the look out for the red, white, and blue next to the player names. You want them French, Dutch or Russian? =) The french flag is even called blue white red ^^ | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 16 2011 13:03 AustinCM wrote: Now lately I have noticed that no matter where you're from everyone loves the Korean Starcraft players. it is because of their tremendous skill and root in Starcraft and also how dedicated they are and I really commend them for this. But, it seems that not too many people are actually that patriotic about their own countrie's players. Personally I am thrilled everytime a Canadian player gets the win over some other big name, like KiWi or HuK but it doesn't seem this way for everyone. I am a huge huge huge IdrA fan and also really like NesTea but I was wondering why people don't root for their own country as much as they root for the Korean to win no matter what match it is or where it is. Instead of many Americans being really happy that IdrA was the only contender against Koreans they chose to be negative about it and put the Koreans on a pedestal instead. Maybe I get the wrong idea but what do you guys think? Do you think a lot of eSports fans are patriotic? I'm not sure if you are just joking... because it is the exact opposite on this site from what I see. Many Swedes are always looking for excuses to say how much better their players are relative to their population. Many Europeans brag that EU > NA (which I agree with, but I hate having to read it OVER and OVER when its not even relevant). Many NA players will say how IdrA is the best player and defend him to the grave... or bring up NA players that are better than many EU players... etc. There is plenty of "patriotism" which personally I find ridiculous. I understand the inclination to cheer for someone that is from your country, but too many times the braggers themselves become too prideful and seem to talk down on others. Personally I go by personality and gameplay. My favorite player is from EU and I enjoy many players from all the regions. I don't go by the fact that I was born in the same general area as someone else... how is that relevant to starcraft 2? Again, I think it is fine if people do it, but personally it gets annoying when the other people seem to have far too much pride and just talk down on others because of it. | ||
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TheFavorite1
United States27 Posts
On June 16 2011 13:03 AustinCM wrote: Now lately I have noticed that no matter where you're from everyone loves the Korean Starcraft players. it is because of their tremendous skill and root in Starcraft and also how dedicated they are and I really commend them for this. But, it seems that not too many people are actually that patriotic about their own countrie's players. Personally I am thrilled everytime a Canadian player gets the win over some other big name, like KiWi or HuK but it doesn't seem this way for everyone. I am a huge huge huge IdrA fan and also really like NesTea but I was wondering why people don't root for their own country as much as they root for the Korean to win no matter what match it is or where it is. Instead of many Americans being really happy that IdrA was the only contender against Koreans they chose to be negative about it and put the Koreans on a pedestal instead. Maybe I get the wrong idea but what do you guys think? Do you think a lot of eSports fans are patriotic? I don't favor one nationality over another. I prefer to root for the players themselves (esp zerg). Just cause CombatEX is American doesn't mean I'd rather him beat Fruitdealer. People like TLO and Sheth that do things for charity are those I enjoy seeing win. Sure its nice to see that Koreans dont completely dominate the entire world but it doesnt effect my preferences. Also its kind of annoying how Koreans have some advantages over non-Koreans in many competitions. I dont recall which interview exactly but idra stated how its easier and less costly for them to enter American tournaments like MLG than it is for Americans to participate at korean venues. | ||
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borny
China481 Posts
Within Sweden, calling yourself a patriot makes you a racist. Within Sweden, having a Swedish flag on your clothes, in your room, or soforth, makes you a racist Within Sweden, playing the national anthem, makes you a racist. Within Sweden, even mentioning the words "patriot, nationalist etc" is tabu. I am Swedish by birth and I am extremely suprised by the Swedish patriots here on TL and hltv.org. It is just so uncommon as a Swede to see fellow countrymen being proud of Sweden. Normally, this is not OK. Perhaps it is because they can use the Internet as an outlet for their patriot feelings since it is impossible to do so within Sweden. For example, when I lived in America I had to say the Pledge of Allegiance every morning in school (while having my right hand on my heart, starring at the American flag). This behavior would be soooo not-okay in Sweden. There have even been discussions about removing the Swedish national anthem from graduations and other school event as it is perceived as hostile by foreigners/immigrants.Any Swede on here will agree with me. That said. Sometimes I feel embarrassed by the Swedish TL:ers. Being proud of Swedish players and cheer for them is OK, but doing retarded stuff such as posting the Swedish flag etc is just lame. | ||
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Rasky
United States406 Posts
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Antego
Canada38 Posts
On June 17 2011 10:42 borny wrote: Let me tell you all something about Swedish patriotism. Within Sweden, calling yourself a patriot makes you a racist. Within Sweden, having a Swedish flag on your clothes, in your room, or soforth, makes you a racist Within Sweden, playing the national anthem, makes you a racist. Within Sweden, even mentioning the words "patriot, nationalist etc" is tabu. I am Swedish by birth and I am extremely suprised by the Swedish patriots here on TL and hltv.org. It is just so uncommon as a Swede to see fellow countrymen being proud of Sweden. Normally, this is not OK. Perhaps it is because they can use the Internet as an outlet for their patriot feelings since it is impossible to do so within Sweden. For example, when I lived in America I had to say the Pledge of Allegiance every morning in school (while having my right hand on my heart, starring at the American flag). This behavior would be soooo not-okay in Sweden. There have even been discussions about removing the Swedish national anthem from graduations and other school event as it is perceived as hostile by foreigners/immigrants.Any Swede on here will agree with me. That said. Sometimes I feel embarrassed by the Swedish TL:ers. Being proud of Swedish players and cheer for them is OK, but doing retarded stuff such as posting the Swedish flag etc is just lame. I agree, It is pretty close to racism. | ||
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