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NaDa, MKP out of DH Summer 2011 - Page 20

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ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 11:37:21
June 15 2011 11:31 GMT
#381

I agree with the majority of your points but, this . . .

On June 15 2011 14:36 jcc wrote: In fact many of them hid their trained builds for the ACTUAL GSL.



please don't pull a blasphemi and make shit up to support your point.


The Koreans wanted nothing more than to beat the foreigners, it's a big embarrassment for them to lose to foreigners (remember tossgirl crying after losing to idra?) and NesTea was fucking dumbfounded after losing to dimaga (he talked many times of wanting to compete with foreigners and it being his best MU, it was a sweet sweet moment, he said afterwards that he saw something in DIMAGA that he saw from no other Zergs in KR).

dimaga isn't better than NesTea, I think both of them are fucking outstanding Zergs, but if I had to put my money on one of them it would be NesTea every single time.

The 2 games DIMAGA won, well . . . one of them was a 6pool + drone all-in as we all know.

The second one is a bit more complicated. But in Hatch first vs Hatch first ZvZ there's a point in time where both of the Zergs are on ~16 drones and neither can scout very well, especially on big maps. Should you straight pump units to attack, or make a few drones and then pump units to defend, or make a few more drones and then pump units to defend or make A LOT of drones and hope you don't get attacked. This is what pisses a lot of Zergs off, you can either make 10 drones and lose to a roach ling all in or make 20 and be vastly ahead compared to the one that made 10 drones.

NesTea was scared, just having gotten 6pooled - it was 1-1 in a bo3 in the world championship - and he made a few drones (up to 23) and then pumped units while dimaga smartly made way more drones (he had 10 more very early) and then managed to carry that advantage to a big roach hydra attack.

NesTea had a huge BO disadvantage in both games he lost to dimaga and barely defended the second game.
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Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
June 15 2011 11:34 GMT
#382
This make me kinda happy acually, it doesn't feel like i miss as much :D I was planning on going to DH but i have to work >_<
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Svennedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium86 Posts
June 15 2011 12:29 GMT
#383
who cares about those players I'd like to see zerg players like Losira and Nestea there to give the terran players and protoss a run for their money! :o
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
June 15 2011 13:28 GMT
#384
Sad news
At least MC is going anywhere

At least not yet
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WhiteWOR
Profile Joined June 2011
27 Posts
June 15 2011 14:39 GMT
#385
I think its kinda disappointing of the korean to just drop out a couple of days before the events start.
If Nada had exams on that date i guess he would have known that for quite awhile.

And I would like to know the reason why the other koreans couldnt make it, and why TLO?.. weird.
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
June 15 2011 15:06 GMT
#386
On June 15 2011 23:39 WhiteWOR wrote:
I think its kinda disappointing of the korean to just drop out a couple of days before the events start.
If Nada had exams on that date i guess he would have known that for quite awhile.

And I would like to know the reason why the other koreans couldnt make it, and why TLO?.. weird.


For the other koreans, I would like to know also, but for TLO, he is injured :
TLO on hiatus due to injury
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 16:36:02
June 15 2011 16:35 GMT
#387
On June 16 2011 00:06 Denar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 23:39 WhiteWOR wrote:
I think its kinda disappointing of the korean to just drop out a couple of days before the events start.
If Nada had exams on that date i guess he would have known that for quite awhile.

And I would like to know the reason why the other koreans couldnt make it, and why TLO?.. weird.


For the other koreans, I would like to know also, but for TLO, he is injured :
TLO on hiatus due to injury

I'm pretty sure that unlike MLG DH doesn't pay for plane tickets. That's probably the main reason, pure and simple.
WhiteWOR
Profile Joined June 2011
27 Posts
June 15 2011 16:53 GMT
#388
On June 16 2011 01:35 dpL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:06 Denar wrote:
On June 15 2011 23:39 WhiteWOR wrote:
I think its kinda disappointing of the korean to just drop out a couple of days before the events start.
If Nada had exams on that date i guess he would have known that for quite awhile.

And I would like to know the reason why the other koreans couldnt make it, and why TLO?.. weird.


For the other koreans, I would like to know also, but for TLO, he is injured :
TLO on hiatus due to injury

I'm pretty sure that unlike MLG DH doesn't pay for plane tickets. That's probably the main reason, pure and simple.


Well the korean was invited long time ago, if the issue were the plane tickets they would have said something..
Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
June 15 2011 17:38 GMT
#389
NO NOT FRUITDEEEAALERR!!!!!
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Where's the counter?"
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 15 2011 18:34 GMT
#390
So we know Nada is not going because of school, and MKP probably because he needs to help Polt practice, but what about FD, why did he bail out at the last moment?

Bummer, I was really looking forward to seeing him play...
Harmonious
Profile Joined December 2010
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 19:44:00
June 15 2011 19:41 GMT
#391
On June 15 2011 02:07 awu25 wrote:
Nada > all the koreans?


FTFY.

I jest, but even if he is not the best in terms of skill, he is the best in terms of epicness. Like Slayers_Boxer, but better. (Sorry Boxer, you will always be my emperor, but the genious Terran is carrying the Brood War Legend flag at the moment)
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
June 15 2011 19:42 GMT
#392
Fruitdealer too!? T_T
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mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
June 15 2011 19:49 GMT
#393
T_T idd m8
We talkin about PRACTICE
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
June 15 2011 19:52 GMT
#394
Any true idea about why they aren't coming?

Similar issues to what Bomber had when trying to get to MLG?
Or something else? NaDa was because of exams (for what?), but some of the others just seem like random droppers...
Got that.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 15 2011 20:03 GMT
#395
On June 16 2011 04:52 Chronald wrote:
Any true idea about why they aren't coming?

Similar issues to what Bomber had when trying to get to MLG?
Or something else? NaDa was because of exams (for what?), but some of the others just seem like random droppers...

Maybe they were worried about owning the competition? :p

On a more serious note, kinda disappointing for them to drop out. Was hoping to see Fruitdealer play :/
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
June 15 2011 20:07 GMT
#396
DH should Invite the new FXO Protoss player from Korea, that guy seems keen to travel outside and participate
Frugalicious
Profile Joined June 2010
United States121 Posts
June 15 2011 20:11 GMT
#397
On June 15 2011 20:31 ChickenLips wrote:

I agree with the majority of your points but, this . . .

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 14:36 jcc wrote: In fact many of them hid their trained builds for the ACTUAL GSL.



please don't pull a blasphemi and make shit up to support your point.


The Koreans wanted nothing more than to beat the foreigners, it's a big embarrassment for them to lose to foreigners (remember tossgirl crying after losing to idra?) and NesTea was fucking dumbfounded after losing to dimaga (he talked many times of wanting to compete with foreigners and it being his best MU, it was a sweet sweet moment, he said afterwards that he saw something in DIMAGA that he saw from no other Zergs in KR).


What jcc has said was something that was agreed upon by the foreign WC team as seen in various interviews particularly the one KellyMilkies had done when she was at the Gom House. They all felt that the Koreans did not try their best and hid their builds. July even mentions this as he said he always tries in every game he plays, but was uncertain if his teammates were taking it seriously. Nestea also mentions that he had tried in one of his interviews as he stated that he was reluctant to play Diamaga, as the final map for the WCTL was one for the main tournament as well and did not want to reveal his strategy (but in the end he did due to peer pressure). MC in another interview claimed he went "easy" on White-Ra as he wanted a good showing for the TL. If you also look at the games themselves, the KR team did a lot of questionable things such as Anypro's all-in vs Sen, MKP's outdated build, and San's Carrier build. This is from Sen's blog.+ Show Spoiler +
So I went up, and got lucky in the first match. I bet he didn't play seriously because he went for all-in in such a big map. The second match was versus marineking. I bet he won’t play seriously as well and I was right. He sent his army to me again and again without having the third mine. So I won again, and I used a lot of banelings in his base just for fun -.- I lost to a Protoss player in the third match. TT1 defeated the remaining two players surprisingly. I couldn’t believe that he won against the two CodeS’s players!OMG This proved more what I just said, the Korean team wasn’t playing seriously


I will not be going through all the interviews and link them (I believe they were the GSLWC winner interviews and the GSL afterwards for Nestea, not sure about the MC one). However, the KellyMilkies interview should be sufficient to support the point that you desperately deny, which should still be on her JTV channel (it is a few hours long).

Though it is sad to MKP has yet to attend a live foreigner event. Would love to see his style clash with foreigners without the latency. Seemed like he was already committed to helping Polt + LG Special League.
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
June 15 2011 20:19 GMT
#398
On June 16 2011 01:35 dpL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:06 Denar wrote:
On June 15 2011 23:39 WhiteWOR wrote:
I think its kinda disappointing of the korean to just drop out a couple of days before the events start.
If Nada had exams on that date i guess he would have known that for quite awhile.

And I would like to know the reason why the other koreans couldnt make it, and why TLO?.. weird.


For the other koreans, I would like to know also, but for TLO, he is injured :
TLO on hiatus due to injury

I'm pretty sure that unlike MLG DH doesn't pay for plane tickets. That's probably the main reason, pure and simple.


He lives in Stockholm you know. Jönköping is a 50 dollar train ride away. I would not be surprised at all if he is at DH anyway (he cant play anyway and his friends are playing).
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
June 16 2011 00:41 GMT
#399
Sad news indeed, I wonder why so many of the Koreans are dropping out of events? - seems odd, Oh wells, Hope MC is still going, he's such a good player and crowd pleasure!
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
June 16 2011 10:34 GMT
#400
Damn, sucks, but on the other hand i like xlord and predy so go eu!
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