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NaDa, MKP out of DH Summer 2011 - Page 18

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Nowis0n
Profile Joined June 2011
United States47 Posts
June 15 2011 02:06 GMT
#341
No my terran brothers!
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
June 15 2011 02:22 GMT
#342
Seeing MarineKingPrime at a foreigner LAN would have been awesome. I don't think foreigners are prepared for his aggressive micro play. Missing out on both MKP and the Genius Terran, NaDa, is truly disappointing.

Maybe they can get BoxeR to come to this tournament? He was originally invited to the Dreamhack Invitationals.
bahl sofs tiil
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
June 15 2011 02:30 GMT
#343
Man, any info in these 18 pages about why MarineKing isn't going? I really don't get to watch that little guy play enough.
And isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick: rational thinking; but, when you're good and crazy, ooohoohoohoohoooo, the sky is the limit!
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 02:42:00
June 15 2011 02:41 GMT
#344
On June 15 2011 04:37 Maliris wrote:
Korean fanboys are adorable ^_^ koreans always say in interviews theres no difference between a korean and a foreigner, are you gonna tell them they are clueless too ? Keep trying


yes, Korean are very polite and let their wins do the talking

and is MKP not coming because he's practicing with Polt for GSL final ?
Put quote here for readability
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
June 15 2011 02:50 GMT
#345
I'd be content with Nestea replacing all the koreans that have opted out so far. =)
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
June 15 2011 03:04 GMT
#346
On June 15 2011 11:30 bahl sofs tiil wrote:
Man, any info in these 18 pages about why MarineKing isn't going? I really don't get to watch that little guy play enough.
I think someone mentioned that he was going to help polt practice for GSTL or something. It's hard to find any relevant information when all people talk about is Koreans vs Europeans.
"!@€#" - as some guy said
HelloxD
Profile Joined May 2011
378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 03:31:09
June 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#347
now you see why they always invite Moon , MC

they always show up


On June 15 2011 08:42 rebdomine wrote:
Damn, I was looking forward to seeing MKP tear up DH Summer.


I'm sure MKP wants to help PoltPrime train ( since mkp is the best tvt in the prime house )
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
June 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#348
The koreans will get stomped. The real talent is in Europe...namely Sweden. Koreans were just lucky until now. The gap isn't as wide as you all think. Korea's reign is OVER.
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 06:37:59
June 15 2011 03:31 GMT
#349
On June 15 2011 08:23 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 08:18 ch33psh33p wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:13 Skwid1g wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:58 xza wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:
[quote]

Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo


What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on...

And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals.

It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit.


What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better.

nope. they got stomped in TSL3.


TSL3 was online, which ends that argument.

No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ


yes it does, get out troll.
350 ping vs 30 ping.

try it.

ps:

TSL3:
everyone: LOLOLOL 'white dudes own korea'
Korea: but it was lag
everyone: BUT YOU LOST! LOLOLOLOL.

MLG Columbus
everyone: wow.... we are way behind the koreans... 1st/2nd/3rd all koreans. koreans only lost to koreans in columbus... wow.
Korea: told you it was lag.
everyone: *starts thread about people getting owned at homesoil*


Idra could have easily taken at least 3rd had he not given up. Thorzain also could have probably placed higher on a different day, same with Naniwa who pretty much /danced his way to a loss.

If anything I'd say that Columbus's close games pretty much proved the difference between Koreans and Foreigners is pretty small. Top Koreans aren't much better than top foreigners (yet), however, Korea has a much more robust scene for sure.


This is why foreign fanboys are so cute. Keep on deluding yourself, outside of the few games you mentioned, most weren't even close.


The few games I mentioned? What? People like you honestly baffle me, Idra could win a GSL and you would cry about how Koreans are still so much better with no real evidence.

Most of the games Idra lost during that tournament (to Koreans) were games he was winning, but just decided to leave because he is Idra. He was ahead vs. MMA and completely stomped MC.


yeah, idrA can be considered Korean since he practice over there for three years and do the same practice routine (10+ hours per day) that none the foreigener do


Naniwa lost because he /danced and then because of a BO loss, not because he got outplayed.


yes, he danced when he's not 100% winning. say something about the different mentality between them isnt it ?


Losira almost lost to iNcontrol, who I wouldn't label as the strongest foreigner (no offense to him) at MLG.

playing with faulty keyboard in game 1 and mouse only on game 2


Jinro and Idra both performed well in the GSL, even though Idra was a lot worse back then. World Championship had the foreigners lose by only 1 game against a team with Nestea, MC, MvP, etc. on it, and the foreign team was quite weak in all honesty.


Jinro and idrA practice the same way as the Korean and that show in their result
also Jinro was one of the first to come up with macro terran style back then when nobody else have a way of dealing with it but now that everybody else have start to do the same he started to fade (quoted from idrA on inside the game)

the WC tournament team games is a showmatch. Thats why the korean send their (arguably) 4 weakest player on day 1, if they start with July,MC, MVP, Nestea on day 1 there wont be a day 2



You'll just constantly make excuses for the Koreans so this is sort of a waste of time, but your logic isn't sound in any way. You're taking 1 event where Koreans BARELY managed to take 1/2/3 and then say "KOREANS ARE SO MUCH BETTER LOLOL."


if by barely you mean got the top 3 and only got eliminated by a fellow korean


With that being said, the difference between foreigners and Koreans won't remain small for long, as I can almost guarantee that the top Koreans are practicing much harder than top foreigners.


all the Korean (except maybe FruitDealer, he need to stop drinking) are practicing much harder than top foreigners
Put quote here for readability
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 15 2011 03:53 GMT
#350
Hey guys, I heard Yao Ming was able to compete in the NBA quite well. Therefore, the Chinese's basketball level is on par with the American's.
skullhoof
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (North)835 Posts
June 15 2011 03:55 GMT
#351
At least we have Bomber,July,MC.
Polt was right about luck
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
June 15 2011 03:57 GMT
#352
huge bummer, but DH will still be awesome
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
June 15 2011 04:08 GMT
#353
argh, a tough loss.. still some great players left, hope to see some sweet games! go DH!!

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
June 15 2011 04:17 GMT
#354
On June 15 2011 12:28 thepuppyassassin wrote:
The koreans will get stomped. The real talent is in Europe...namely Sweden. Koreans were just lucky until now. The gap isn't as wide as you all think. Korea's reign is OVER.


Mind providing some evidence that Koreans were just lucky?

Or maybe they practice more, train in team houses under coaches, are more dedicated, have sacrificed more . . . .

than your Swedish amateurs. I'm hesitant to even call them progamers because they really aren't.
powerade = dragoon blood
nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
June 15 2011 04:23 GMT
#355
This is a huge bummer but i think as long as mc, bomber and july go i'll still be happy.
on a side note...did mma not want to go or not invited
Root4Root
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
June 15 2011 04:31 GMT
#356
Ahhh, if i was a Swede i'd be devastated, two of my favourite koreans

As a stream viewer, i'm more bummed about MKP. I find his style really entertaining.

Not at all bummed about Inca and AP. Unimpressive protoss players to say the least. In fact its a good thing to me, because if any koreans are gonna go to a foreign tournament and crush nerds (or get crushed) i want it to be good all round ones like MC and Bomber. Inca and AP are anything but in my view.

Really excited to see how a large pool of Euros stacks up against arguably the best terran and definitely the best protoss going around. So i pray those two make it on the plane >_<
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
SweetAs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
New Zealand290 Posts
June 15 2011 04:51 GMT
#357
Man.. was hoping stephano could make it..
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Dr.FuzzyBallz
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada25 Posts
June 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#358
damn... well i hope they all join next one, and wheres MVP i hope he joins too with NesTea losira and the rest as well start participating in non-korean tournys.
I haven't failed, i have just found 10000 ways that dont work.
FrozenFrog
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore133 Posts
June 15 2011 04:59 GMT
#359
On June 15 2011 13:23 nakedsurfer wrote:
This is a huge bummer but i think as long as mc, bomber and july go i'll still be happy.
on a side note...did mma not want to go or not invited

The GSL Super Tounament Finals is on the first day of dreamhack, I dont think he can be at 2 places at once sorry
d(-.-)b
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
June 15 2011 05:00 GMT
#360
Finding out that these two events (gsl super tourny and dreamhack) have scheduling conflicts make me a sad panda. After reading who was out, I couldnt help but remember the crowd at MLG screaming MMA MMA. Sad to see he wont be there.
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