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the pro way to put guys on gas?

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nyc863
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
200 Posts
June 11 2011 08:58 GMT
#1
I searched and could not find.

Everyone sees the pro worker split in the first second of the game..

but what is the pro way to put guys on gas? (which happens many times in a game)

there are many ways to do it esp if you consider they are carrying minerals or not, if you click and shift click, or box, if you shift move, or not ... is there an easiest and most efficient/reliable way?

I tend to make a small box, correct for the number I want if I didn't box the right number, then click the refinery, but I feel that might be slow and also if they happen to have minerals, they lose those.

Along these lines, if a worker is told to build something and you see he has a mineral in his paw, you can shift rally to the CC instead of a mineral patch, is that a "better" way or do you shift-build so he returns his mineral first then shift rally to a mineral patch..
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 09:03:14
June 11 2011 09:02 GMT
#2
When the worked has minerals, just his "c" and they drop off the minerals at the CC and continue mining after they are done building.

As for gas, I grab the workers that just returned, sometimes one or two at a time if I can get them.
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Yeol
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)55 Posts
June 11 2011 09:02 GMT
#3
normally just shift click 2 guys (no minerals) and put them to gas... talking about mouse accuracy.. not as complicated as you think..
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 09:03:57
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#4
Press "c" after selecting and sending them to the gas to have workers return their minerals to the hatch before mining gas.
Anyways you should be able to box select 3 workers without minerals to send them, and in case of the first gas you can select and send them one by one so that they don't stack up and wait before mining it.

Edit: spelling
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#5
1. Select any worker mining minerals.
2. Right click your gas.
3. Press C
ander
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada403 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#6
There's a pro way? I dunno if i've ever seen any pro spend more than 1 second putting guys on gas. The gain just seems so miniscule beyond the first gas or two that it isn't worth your time when playing. Your attention can be someplace else.
Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#7
Well it's not really important but I see most pros not really rushing like: "OMG my gas is soon done better have workers there the second its done."

Instead they check whats going on, hear that the gas is done and take the three most recent workers that returned their minerals by holding shift and clicking invidivually. Sometimes if theres three workers moving synchronized in a close group with returning cargo they can drag select and send them to the gas.

But I suggest you to do something that you feel comfertable with, like sending the three closest to the gas or the alike.
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xerus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States16 Posts
June 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#8
I don't know how pros do it, but I make a box that I think will grab three, and if I get more than that I shift click them out of the group using the portraits, and then I click the gas and also press C to make them return any minerals they may be carrying before going to the geyser.
sceroh
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium182 Posts
June 11 2011 09:07 GMT
#9
sometimes I hotkey 3 probes at the very beginning and when my gas finishes I sent them to the gas and press Cargo.
However , usually I just make a small box and most of the time I get 3 ^^
Blind86
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia30 Posts
June 11 2011 09:10 GMT
#10
I find the fastest way (and i think i've observed this on streams) is to box x amount of workers who just dropped off mins/about to drop off (focal point being tthe cc/nexus/hatch) and just click off whatever amoutn in the UI and send remaining to the gas.

For two of them (I play T) I box deselect until 4 workers left, right click one refinery, deselect 2 workers, send to other refinery. Its a useful skill to have for many things.

Hope this is helpful.
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decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
June 11 2011 09:10 GMT
#11
For Zerg you can choose one egg and rally it to the geyser when you're doing 14 gas 14 pool, it will arrive there when the extractor finishes. Take one more that will arive there when the first comes out and then a 3rd one. I only choose drones not mining and not carrying minerals.
LoneWolf.Alpha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States115 Posts
June 11 2011 09:35 GMT
#12
On June 11 2011 18:02 TheAmazombie wrote:
When the worked has minerals, just his "c" and they drop off the minerals at the CC and continue mining after they are done building.

As for gas, I grab the workers that just returned, sometimes one or two at a time if I can get them.


if you send a probe with a mineral to mine gas, and then press "c" to return cargo, the probe will return the mineral to the nexus, and then go to the mine gas.

so just select 3 probes and tell htem to mine gas, and then press c.

nyc863
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
200 Posts
June 11 2011 09:38 GMT
#13
ok thanks, I'll try inserting the "c" _after_ sending guys to gas, I wasn't aware c did not wipe the new gas command..
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
June 11 2011 09:39 GMT
#14
Early game you can select a worker carrying minerals back and shift+right click geyser, since the worker has a "return minerals" command at that moment you just queue up the next command to mine gas. This way workers don't waste any time (like if you move workers mining/having mined minerals directly to the gas the worker mining time is 'wasted')

later on time is more valuable so I think you're better off box-selecting and shift-deselecting to get 3. you can right click-C, or shift queue up return minerals->mine gas for them
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OriginalBeast
Profile Joined September 2010
United States709 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#15
I feel like a lot of people ask this question because their mouse accuracy isn't all that great, so that may actually be where you want to start. However I will add that its easy to select the right amount of peons to put in gas right after they return minerals. They "bounce" off the base and you can grab them easily.
More gg, more skill.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 11 2011 09:42 GMT
#16
I just shift-select 3 workers that have just returned their minerals o.O Too lazy to mess around with the c-key.

You could try playing some mouse accuracy flash games or fiddling with your sensitivity settings if that's your problem. Most of this has been said already but..
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sl0v
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway51 Posts
June 11 2011 09:43 GMT
#17
When transferring workers to a non-saturated base / new base you can:

-Mark 20 workers
-Send all to 1st geysir
-Deselect 3 workers
-Send remaining 17 to 2nd geysir
-Deselct 3 more workers
-Send remaining 14 to mine minerals.

Takes about 1 second with decent "micro".

This will make the 3 deselected workers stay on the gas, while the others go mining minerals.
userstupidname
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden272 Posts
June 11 2011 09:55 GMT
#18
On June 11 2011 18:07 sceroh wrote:
sometimes I hotkey 3 probes at the very beginning and when my gas finishes I sent them to the gas and press Cargo.
However , usually I just make a small box and most of the time I get 3 ^^



This

Basically see 3 drones early in the game that deliver at the same time, hot key these and send them to gas once done.

For more proness hotkey the other 3 drones that arrive at the same time but not at the same time as the first group.


So now you have 2 control groups, check which one is coming to give minerals and shift click them to the gas.
Good luck have fun! - Except if its ZvZ Then you can burn in hell :D
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
June 11 2011 09:55 GMT
#19
On June 11 2011 18:43 sl0v wrote:
When transferring workers to a non-saturated base / new base you can:

-Mark 20 workers
-Send all to 1st geysir
-Deselect 3 workers
-Send remaining 17 to 2nd geysir
-Deselct 3 more workers
-Send remaining 14 to mine minerals.

Takes about 1 second with decent "micro".

This will make the 3 deselected workers stay on the gas, while the others go mining minerals.


This. This is the best way to saturate a new base IMO.
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guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
June 11 2011 10:25 GMT
#20
On June 11 2011 18:43 sl0v wrote:
When transferring workers to a non-saturated base / new base you can:

-Mark 20 workers
-Send all to 1st geysir
-Deselect 3 workers
-Send remaining 17 to 2nd geysir
-Deselct 3 more workers
-Send remaining 14 to mine minerals.

Takes about 1 second with decent "micro".

This will make the 3 deselected workers stay on the gas, while the others go mining minerals.


I see people do this all the time on an already saturated base and it makes me cringe. If I had all the time in the world I'd grab 3 workers from the far mineral patches and try to time it so they go one by one after they returned the minerals to the hatch already. If you send all 3 at once they have to wait to get in the geyser. In game I just grab 3-4 workers, click the gas, c, and if I boxed 4 I just send one back to minerals before it gets to the geyser. I don't think it matters that much.
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