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Jest
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
June 05 2011 17:19 GMT
#1
Greetings TL! First post!

I would like to share a helpful and very simple tweak with everyone that let's you use the control group hotkeys to make the select/locate functionality of the control group hotkey possible to use when watching a replay. When I discovered this, I thought it would have been mentioned on here for sure but I was unable to find anything about it.

*Note that this will slightly vary based on how your hotkeys are setup so I will explain it from the default setup, but it can be done with any.

Everyone probably knows that in a replay, if you want to see all the units in a given control group, you can click on the little icon for it, but many players have disabled the ability to click these in the settings or hidden them altogether. However, there is a way to use the actual hotkeys to select them!

By default control group hotkeys are 1-0 and the "observe player" are 1-8 & ctrl-1-8 for players 9-16. When you press one of the 1-8 keys in a replay it will only observe the chosen player. However, the control group keys are not disabled, they are just being overridden by the observe player hotkey. You can see this work without even changing anything by using the 9 and 0 control group keys in a replay because nothign is overriding them (of course there needs to be something in them, with a unit of that player selected for it to work.)

To enable all of the control group keys to work, the solution is as simple as rebinding the hotkey to observe players 1-8. I changed them to F1-F8 (these are rebound in Options > Hotkeys > Global > Observer). Now all of the control group hotkeys work for all groups as an observer!

Here's a picture of the new bindings in the hotkey options:
[image loading]

Note that I left the players 9-16 unbound as I don't really feel a need for them.

Enjoy!
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
June 05 2011 17:26 GMT
#2
Whoa, if this is really as simple as you say, this could be quite useful. Thanks!
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Farmore
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil5 Posts
June 05 2011 17:29 GMT
#3
Tried it and worked as you said :D
Thank you for the info!
ChineseWife
Profile Joined August 2010
United States373 Posts
June 05 2011 17:35 GMT
#4
I think u can press alt+# to select players hotkey
Oops I made no units
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
June 05 2011 17:37 GMT
#5
I've been wondering why I couldn't use them in replays since the game came out I'm so glad someone looked deeper into this to find the solution to this problem, thank you very much Jest, awesome first post! :D
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
June 05 2011 20:24 GMT
#6
Is it possible to observe a players' camera bounds (i.e. by default, F5-F8)?
leviathan20
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom193 Posts
June 05 2011 21:49 GMT
#7
On June 06 2011 02:35 ChineseWife wrote:
I think u can press alt+# to select players hotkey


Yep, you can just use Alt+# or Shift+# to select the hotkeys.
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Jest
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
June 07 2011 16:34 GMT
#8
On June 06 2011 06:49 leviathan20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:35 ChineseWife wrote:
I think u can press alt+# to select players hotkey


Yep, you can just use Alt+# or Shift+# to select the hotkeys.


I didn't know about those, but they do work! I personally prefer rebinding it so I don't have to use a key combination to call the control group - I would rather use a single key. Another reason I think it would be better to rebind it would be so that you don't confuse your muscle memory about how to select a control group. This is probably more important for lower level players like me who are trying to develop their mechanics.

On June 06 2011 05:24 Zeke50100 wrote:
Is it possible to observe a players' camera bounds (i.e. by default, F5-F8)?


I thought about it before posting this but I didn't feel like recalling those would be nearly as important.. at least for me, but I made a game just to test this and it seems like these cannot be recalled in a replay - at least using the technique I used for the control groups. Perhaps there's an alternate hidden key combination like ChineseWife or leviathan mentioned that would work.

Thanks for the feedback!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 07 2011 16:36 GMT
#9
Holy shit, what a find! Thanks! This actually really helps a lot!
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MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
June 07 2011 16:36 GMT
#10
I'm glad to learn about all of this since I disable the hotkey buttons from working for when I'm playing, but I like to see them sometimes in the replay. Thanks for the OP and subsequent posts.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
June 07 2011 16:56 GMT
#11
Good find, good post. I'll change my hotkeys to exactly as is shown in the screenshot I think when I get home
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 16:59:28
June 07 2011 16:59 GMT
#12
Appreciated~_~ Just set players to the numpad instead.
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Jest
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
June 08 2011 03:43 GMT
#13
I just realized that this won't work when watching replays from non-current versions of SC2. Because you can only watch them after logging out of battle.net, custom hotkey profiles aren't available. In these cases, the only way to do it would be to use the SHIFT or ALT+1-0 key combos.
quickclickz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
June 08 2011 13:56 GMT
#14
Wow I did not know that, the alt+#, nice!
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