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about the "all-in"
::::So I heard that in the first game of GSL March, MC did a expansion cancel into 4gate rush..... that's not all in? wat.::::
also: ST.Bomber and IMLosira. Not. A. Rivalry, they are friendly with each other
.... also, really if someone slammed my window like that, I'd knock on their window like what he did when I win ofc. oO (on another note, as a spectator I don't really care about it, as long as he didn't actually break the window oO;) (plus it wasn't that hard)
as in rivalry..... don't think so... if they/their players face in the regular GSL events and continue to win/lose against each other, than most likely, yea.
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Wow some people really people feed on drama here....
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I don't think that is is necessarily a rivalry, but one could spur from these little BM actions that you have described, but I wouldn't start by calling it a rivalry
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On May 19 2011 00:40 Benjef wrote:
Its just a little BM, losing one game doesn't make it a rivalry. Sure when this happens 2-3 times.
People jump of the rivalry band wagon far to much, its as if they are trying to create one out of nothing. Like people play once a lil bit of BM, boom instantly a thread on new rivalry!?
To NA or EU it's just a little BM, but Koreans pride themselves on their manners, which is part of the reason that the SC community is so friendly and WM. That sort of BM in Korea would be like HuK spitting in IdrA's face after beating him with hallucinated Void Rays in MLG.
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oGs is still the better team imo....but MC is the best....it dont matter if he loses...hes the best LOL
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On May 19 2011 04:51 mbr2321 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 00:40 Benjef wrote:
Its just a little BM, losing one game doesn't make it a rivalry. Sure when this happens 2-3 times.
People jump of the rivalry band wagon far to much, its as if they are trying to create one out of nothing. Like people play once a lil bit of BM, boom instantly a thread on new rivalry!? To NA or EU it's just a little BM, but Koreans pride themselves on their manners, which is part of the reason that the SC community is so friendly and WM. That sort of BM in Korea would be like HuK spitting in IdrA's face after beating him with hallucinated Void Rays in MLG.
It was just for show. There was never any malicious intent.
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The OP and some of you people take this stuff too seriously. Have you guys forgotten that SC2 is entertainment? Not only are the games fun to watch, but also some drama is fun. They are just doing all the dancing and stuff to make it more interesting for the viewers and for "slow/sensitive" fans like the OP something to think about.
MC even said it himself once in an interview that how he acts on stage is different from how he is in private. Same with idra, who says some comments for the sake of entertainment and foreseeable overreaction by some fans.
If you think there's real beef and that the 2 teams will get into a knife fight in a dark alley over a video game, then here are my final words for you. YOU GOT TROLLED, hard by these funny ass sc2 players.
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On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz.
Its getting a bit annoying people not being critical of MC's decision making. So what if he got allin-ed, if hes the better player he should be using safe builds. Not trying to get away with stuff that puts him, miles ahead if it works or dead on the spot to a bit of pressure.
MC's build was ridiculous, He tried to get out units, expand and tech all at once. Also MC is the person i'm least sympathetic about loosing to an allins. Given the frequency in which he all-ins.
If Mc thinks hes as good has he presents him self to be. He needs to buy safety in the early game, so he can do his thing in the mid game. The builds he's going are something less confident players should be doing to get an edge.
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On May 19 2011 04:59 Cyanocyst wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz. Its getting a bit annoying people not being critical of MC's decision making. So what if he got allin-ed, if hes the better player he should be using safe builds. Not trying to get away with stuff that puts him, miles ahead if it works or dead on the spot to a bit of pressure. MC's build was ridiculous, He tried to get out units, expand and tech all at once. Also MC is the person i'm least sympathetic about loosing to an allins. Given the frequency in which he all-ins. If Mc thinks hes as good has he presents him self to be. He needs to buy safety in the early game, so he can do his thing in the mid game. The builds he's going are something less confident should seemingly do to get an edge, not elite players.
Enough said about the '' all-in '' subject.
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Seriously. "All in" or not, the point here is the fun showmanship. For some viewers, they may consider it immature but I, personally, enjoy a little "brush back" pitch or celebration. I think players should have personality - this creates a narrative for even casual fans to enjoy.
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nice writeup. i couldnt stay up long enough to see mvp vs ogs 
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On May 19 2011 00:10 stangstang wrote:
it was a well thought out attack.
Sniping the first stalker to keep mc in the dark.
Stealing gas to lower the sentry count on a wide ramp.
I'm sure he planned that the stalker would get killed that quickly before his attack...
Regardless, I have encountered tons of people lately who don't understand the definition of an all in. Just because you can bank enough minerals to throw up an additional base doesn't mean someone isn't all in. Had his push not done any damage he would have been incredibly behind. It doesn't just go for this certain situation, but there are many different ways I have heard people talk about all ins lately, and I think the stem of it is Losira's roach/ling timing when he throws up the third base as he does it, even though it's an all-in(esque) push
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On May 19 2011 00:02 Crystal368 wrote:
DongRaeGu is a bit of a beast tbh. Looking forward to seeing more of him
This really. Hes really impressing me at the moment.
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On May 19 2011 04:11 awwnuts07 wrote:
Personally, I love seeing the rivalries. But I don't think they take it far enough. I feel Starcraft needs to go in the direction of the NBA. Mad smack talk coupled with players fighting tooth and nail to dominate each other.
There's a difference between NBA players' mentality and Starcraft players. There's also a difference in fans and general target audience. I can't see why would anyone interested in that kind of shit watch Starcraft out of all other sports that are much more likely to have players and fans with such an attitude.
Personally I'd rather they don't take it much "further" than this in Starcraft.
Don't hate. =(
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Did tasteosis cast any of these games?
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Man DRG is looking like such a beast. He might be the zerg version of Bomber.
I am really glad especially since he is zerg. Anything to make all the zerg fanboys here QQ less (if it matters I play random, non competitively and I enjoy watching all 3 races play) especially with Protoss being highly unrepresented and not posting results recently. It's a good time to read threads on TL. No headaches from all the complaining!! 
I love the BM back and forth too. MC finally let his cockiness get the best of him (though it's arguably not the first time). Hahaha. The GSTL is always amazing.
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Didn't DRG do that annoying raise hands thing that has been going around the internet. "was that all you got pose"
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I have absolutely no problem with the celebrations, they are fricken awesome. They only add to the entertainment of the GSTL. It's good to see the normally manner Koreans shake it up. I want more of TOP's nunchuks though.
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On May 19 2011 05:51 Durn wrote:
I have absolutely no problem with the celebrations, they are fricken awesome. They only add to the entertainment of the GSTL. It's good to see the normally manner Koreans shake it up. I want more of TOP's nunchuks though.
These celebrations existed in BW as well, they were part of the ceremony. It's just to put on a show, it's not a display of some bad manner, disrespect or hate for the opponent (which is what a lot of people here takes them for).
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