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On January 17 2013 08:36 FilipSRB wrote:
Congrats esports, you're on the cover of PC Gamer!

On January 17 2013 08:53 baldgye wrote:


While his points are valid (and its one of the reasons why originally I was on Slashers side), he dsn't actually take into account how Slasher posts his 'news' and the negative impact this has on a very small community.
If eSports was as big or even half as big as anyother main sport or olypic level sport, then this debate wouldn't be happening becasue the scene would be proven stable and big enough to manage with things like that.

On January 17 2013 08:58 dr.fahrenheit wrote:


If you wanna play with the big boys some day, start fucking acting like one

On January 17 2013 08:59 baldgye wrote:


...what does that even mean?

On January 17 2013 08:58 dr.fahrenheit wrote:


If you wanna play with the big boys some day, start fucking acting like one

On January 17 2013 08:53 baldgye wrote:


While his points are valid (and its one of the reasons why originally I was on Slashers side), he dsn't actually take into account how Slasher posts his 'news' and the negative impact this has on a very small community.
If eSports was as big or even half as big as anyother main sport or olypic level sport, then this debate wouldn't be happening becasue the scene would be proven stable and big enough to manage with things like that.

On January 17 2013 08:59 baldgye wrote:


...what does that even mean?

On January 17 2013 09:01 dAPhREAk wrote:

his crass way of saying dont use the size of the community as an excuse.

On January 17 2013 08:59 baldgye wrote:


...what does that even mean?

On January 17 2013 09:12 Slider954 wrote:


Pretty sure he's saying that if esports really wants to be treated seriously and relevant, everybody needs to get their shit together and man up. That means minding your P's and Q's for teams when it comes to player transactions and the like. It means players need to start acting like pros and adults than some immature teenagers. It means leagues and tourneys need to start delivering on what they promise for content and prize money. All of these situations have made major drama in the past say 6 months, if not a shorter time period. And it doesn't look good at all

In short it means ESPORTS really needs to start handling their shit, NOW.

On January 17 2013 09:06 baldgye wrote:


It's not really an excuse, it's just a matter of fact.
I'm all for good journalism, it's one of the reasons why The Verge has fast become one of my favorite sites... but eSports lacks that 'go to' guy for good professional level journalism, and Slasher bearly provides tabloid level reporting.

I'm all for a free press that can report what ever it likes, but you have to be smart about how you do it, and work with the people your reporting on. The industry Slasher is in-on (the reason he has a job) is telling him that he's harming there income and there ability to exist, instead of just ignooring that and carrying on he should be working with them so that when actual shit goes down, he is there... instead just reporting anything as it happens only serves to destory all your sources and any ability to do your job.



I agree with the notion of a free press, I don't want things surpressed becasue it benefits team X/Y but it dsn't make sense for him to 'report' in the way that he is.. and do so little of anything else... anything thats worth consuming... articals like that one on PC Gamer...

On January 17 2013 09:12 GolemMadness wrote:
I don't really listen to this show, but why is it 3-4 people from EG, DJ Wheat, and then Slasher? It seems rather absurd to just have everyone ganging up on him.

On January 17 2013 09:18 coverpunch wrote:

Just a note: nothing here is a "free press" issue. Freedom of the press is a constraint on the government's ability to punish or imprison you for publishing articles. So EG would lose if they tried to sue Slasher for damages or asked the police to arrest him.

I have to point out that Slasher's duty first and foremost is to his readers. If you don't want him to post the news like this, then don't read his articles (i.e. Gamespot). Slasher might be hampered if he is indeed pissing off insiders and teams start clamping down on leaks.

It seems ripe if someone else wants to go into eSports journalism and is willing to burn fewer bridges to get juicy information. But people get scooped and it sucks for anyone trying to publish new information. Like the PC Gamer article says, EG should concentrate harder on stopping leaks and putting information out there faster than trying to discourage Slasher from scooping them when he can.

On January 17 2013 09:26 Ballack wrote:
Slasher is in the wrong on this one. The point Garfield makes regarding the difference between how teams make their money in esports and regular sports is a very important one, and Slasher never gave any sort of argument as to why his short "breaking news" articles gain anyone else than himself and Gamespot. And him saying that is was a good discussion...It was a terrible discussion because Slasher never addressed points made by actors of the other side of the "discussion", he actually didn't further or enlighten anything other than saying something like "it's the news and people deserve to hear them" which is an inherently foul and weak argument.