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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
June 15 2011 14:04 GMT
#761
Game knowledge can be important, but unless you are someone with as great of game knowledge as Day[9], Artosis, Wolf, etc, don't do it. The worst thing possible for a caster to do is to say something that is blatantly incorrect, because when people pick up on it all they can think about is how wrong what you just said was.

Having a shallow understanding of this game is really all you need as a play by play caster
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
June 15 2011 14:05 GMT
#762
I love reading TotalBiscuit's posts and then looking at his Mood indicator on the bottom.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 15 2011 14:07 GMT
#763
On June 15 2011 23:05 zarepath wrote:
I love reading TotalBiscuit's posts and then looking at his Mood indicator on the bottom.


Oh trust me, it's accurate. It's hard to get mad when a few idiots think they can drive you from the scene after you just pulled off a successful tournament a couple of days ago and you're going to Dreamhack to cast in a couple of days.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:09:14
June 15 2011 14:08 GMT
#764
On June 15 2011 23:07 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 23:05 zarepath wrote:
I love reading TotalBiscuit's posts and then looking at his Mood indicator on the bottom.


Oh trust me, it's accurate. It's hard to get mad when a few idiots think they can drive you from the scene after you just pulled off a successful tournament a couple of days ago and you're going to Dreamhack to cast in a couple of days.


why you so baller?

edit: your almost to 1337 posts
Flash Fan!
EnWara
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:15:44
June 15 2011 14:11 GMT
#765
I think TB is a pretty bad caster but he is very good at talking about what our eyeballs already see in a loud voice . So there is always that skill set.
No but seriously TB needs to try to understand the game better. It gets annoying to listen to him babble.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:14:43
June 15 2011 14:12 GMT
#766
On June 15 2011 22:04 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 21:59 turdburgler wrote:
gigantic niche



the point they were making is that TB came out and criticized idra's casting niche first, for absolutely no reason, when idra is hailed as pretty much the best purely analytical caster that we have seen in sc2 to date.


This is bullshit. If you actually read the post, as opposed to what you were told to get angry about by other fanbois, you'd know I WAS THE ONE who hailed him as pretty much the best purely analytical caster than we have seen in SC2 to date.

Fuck there are some incredibly delusional people in the SC2 scene. How about you read the original post. http://gosu.com/2011/05/counter-point-totalbiscuits-response-to-our-casting-article/

I've highlighted the important bit for you.

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IdrA is not a good caster. He does not have the training to be a good caster, he is too quiet, he is frequently monotone, he stumbles in his speech, he has no flow to speak of, he lacks the ability to express passion and emotion. He is however, an analyst of exceptional skill and calibre, easily one of the best in the business. He should be lauded for this however the distinction must be made there.

This is how sportscasting works 101 – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_by_play

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_commentator

IdrA is a colour-commentator. He fits all the criteria, he is analytical, he is there to provide background and extensive game knowledge, based on experience as a current/ex-player. He is there to fill in time when the play-by-play commentator is not talking and as a knowledgeable resource to back up the play-by-play commentator, who is more often than not, not a professional player/coach/ex-player, but a professional broadcaster.


So to hell with dumb fanbois who can't read I say.


you can get angry all you want, i tried to be nice about it. you criticize him for being monotone, and yet that allows him to get across what he wants to say without sounding like a complete tool while he does it. you're seriously going to criticize him as a caster for his microphone settings being off? really? thats the best youve got? the captain of being a fucking moron while casting is going to come back with the, oohhh your mic isnt set up properly. gosh.

you want to talk about flow. heres how it works, when someone who is casting a game says something that is just wrong, not an opinion you disagree with, but just wrong. guess what that does? interupt flow. your job as a caster is to draw the player in to care about the game, to feel the tension of the moment. but how can we keep that when people like you just say stuff that makes no sense?

stop coming up with weird arguments in a hyper aggressive way against one of the most popular people in the community and maybe people wouldnt dump on you constantly.


User was temp banned for this post.
Harvey123
Profile Joined June 2011
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:22:30
June 15 2011 14:12 GMT
#767
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
June 15 2011 14:12 GMT
#768

Good riddance and while you're at it please make sure to refrain from applying to league such as IPL in the future, we don't want you there neither. Stay in your own thread ans cast your own tournament/games, everybody wins, somewhat.


lol. GL with that, the guy hosts a invitational that hits 20k viewers that I didn't even realize was going on until I just happened to be on at the time it was being aired. Leagues would have to be retarded to not want TB to cast.
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
June 15 2011 14:15 GMT
#769
Geezes someone needs a reality pill. TotalBisquit is one of the most popular and respected casters in the world. Its people like him, Tasteless, Day9, Artosis that we actually have a community to talk about.
TheFrankOne
Profile Joined December 2010
United States667 Posts
June 15 2011 14:16 GMT
#770
This show is really lacking without incontrol, Painuser and Idra have so little emotion, there's a lot lacking here.

I like TotalBiscuit and his casting, even if he is a little too defensive.

TotalBiscuit, just ignore Idra, he has said the entire foreigner scene sucks more than once so you're not in bad company, he didn't gg against Boxer, he quits in games he has won, and he casts like he has no soul. (Not like his mic setting are off, like he has no soul.) Should probably just ignore someone like him.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 15 2011 14:17 GMT
#771
On June 15 2011 23:12 turdburgler wrote:
you can get angry all you want, i tried to be nice about it.


You flat out lied. That is your problem.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:19:10
June 15 2011 14:18 GMT
#772
[QUOTE]On June 15 2011 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 15 2011 22:45 TuElite wrote:
Good riddance and while you're at it please make sure to refrain from applying to league such as IPL in the future, we don't want you there neither. Stay in your own thread ans cast your own tournament/games, everybody wins, somewhat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]I'm sorry, but you don't matter and pretending otherwise is your biggest mistake. You can take this "we" shit and shove it up your ass too, oh no, pretentious eSports "fan" doesn't like my casting, as if that is going to affect the hiring decisions of the people who are actually important in keeping the scene going. Plenty of you need to get this into your heads, the people in charge do not give a shit about your dumb opinions and so they shouldn't. They have their metrics, they have actual information, they know who is good for them and who isn't and they will make decisions based on that, not on people whose method of arguing seems to boil down to "u mad?" more often than not.[/QUOTE]

You'd be surprised at how munch a few emails to the right person could grant or deny you opportunities. I Know for a fact that the most notorious leagues and figureheads of our community listen quite a lot to the fans/target audience opinions.

[QUOTE]And just to make sure you know how the industry actually works. We don't "apply" to events, they come to us. If that doesn't speak volumes to you then that sounds like a personal problem.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations if you've been "chosen", I'm sure Blizzard's CEO will personally come knocking at your door any minutes now.

[QUOTE]Bring on the "you're arrogant" comments that seem to come along every time I tell people how things actually work. If that's the price of being right then so be it. You and people like you are cunts, you are poison within the community and it's a good job that you don't have any influence, otherwise you might do some actual damage to it.[/QUOTE]

You don't strike me as arrogant at all, I'm not sure why you're bringing that up... Everyone has influence to an extent. EVERYONE. Especially when dealing with a small niche and precise target demographic. And you have no idea of who I am and what personal influence I have.

[QUOTE]Please, slobber all over IdrA's cock because he's so awesome for being honest and speaking the truth and then flame anyone else who does the same you self-righteous, worthless hypocrite.[/QUOTE]

You're the one who keeps mentioning him... And I have no problem at all with anyone for being honest, I'm not flaming you because "you're honest". I was just stating my opinion.

I can't quote.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
June 15 2011 14:18 GMT
#773
On June 15 2011 23:12 Harvey123 wrote:
guys I think we are searching for brans murderer in the wrong way littlefinger or tyrion would never let such an amateur try and kill an important person as bran stark they are both geniuses in their own way I think its more likely that joffrey attempted to kill bran because you notice how much he hates the starks (scene with the swords with robb, arya , and the scene with his mother)

I agree, Inside the Game is a lot like a Game of Thrones. Incontrol is Tyrion.
Razvy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States132 Posts
June 15 2011 14:19 GMT
#774
I've always been a fan of the 'if you don't like something, ignore it and hope it goes away' when it comes to mass market things. I don't like reality TV, so I don't watch it and hope it goes away. I don't like TB's casting, so I don't watch him and hope he goes away. I don't like pages of flame posts, so I don't read them (ok, I made a mistake this time), and hope they go away. It's perfectly fine to not like something and also not make a big deal about it too.

It doesn't always work, but it does keep me sane.
Any technology, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from magic.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
June 15 2011 14:19 GMT
#775
On June 15 2011 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 22:45 TuElite wrote:
Good riddance and while you're at it please make sure to refrain from applying to league such as IPL in the future, we don't want you there neither. Stay in your own thread ans cast your own tournament/games, everybody wins, somewhat.


I'm sorry, but you don't matter and pretending otherwise is your biggest mistake. You can take this "we" shit and shove it up your ass too, oh no, pretentious eSports "fan" doesn't like my casting, as if that is going to affect the hiring decisions of the people who are actually important in keeping the scene going. Plenty of you need to get this into your heads, the people in charge do not give a shit about your dumb opinions and so they shouldn't. They have their metrics, they have actual information, they know who is good for them and who isn't and they will make decisions based on that, not on people whose method of arguing seems to boil down to "u mad?" more often than not.

And just to make sure you know how the industry actually works. We don't "apply" to events, they come to us. If that doesn't speak volumes to you then that sounds like a personal problem.

Bring on the "you're arrogant" comments that seem to come along every time I tell people how things actually work. If that's the price of being right then so be it. You and people like you are cunts, you are poison within the community and it's a good job that you don't have any influence, otherwise you might do some actual damage to it.

Please, slobber all over IdrA's cock because he's so awesome for being honest and speaking the truth and then flame anyone else who does the same you self-righteous, worthless hypocrite.


I'm sure those metrics and information lets them know who has the stream set to mute.
EnWara
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
June 15 2011 14:22 GMT
#776
On June 15 2011 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +


I'm sorry, but you don't matter and pretending otherwise is your biggest mistake. You can take this "we" shit and shove it up your ass too, oh no, pretentious eSports "fan" doesn't like my casting, as if that is going to affect the hiring decisions of the people who are actually important in keeping the scene going. Plenty of you need to get this into your heads, the people in charge do not give a shit about your dumb opinions and so they shouldn't. They have their metrics, they have actual information, they know who is good for them and who isn't and they will make decisions based on that, not on people whose method of arguing seems to boil down to "u mad?" more often than not.

And just to make sure you know how the industry actually works. We don't "apply" to events, they come to us. If that doesn't speak volumes to you then that sounds like a personal problem.

Bring on the "you're arrogant" comments that seem to come along every time I tell people how things actually work. If that's the price of being right then so be it. You and people like you are cunts, you are poison within the community and it's a good job that you don't have any influence, otherwise you might do some actual damage to it.

Please, slobber all over IdrA's cock because he's so awesome for being honest and speaking the truth and then flame anyone else who does the same you self-righteous, worthless hypocrite.


I'm sure those metrics and information lets them know who has the stream set to mute.

ahahaha so good
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
June 15 2011 14:22 GMT
#777
I think the key difference is that TB is responding to people that dislike him, whereas all those sports commentators that say something you disagree with aren't currently reachable.

I like his commentary, it livens up games. I've tried doing commentary myself, and it is so hard to put spirit into the game, explain players actions and question their decision making.

It is a lot easier to shout shit from the stands of a football game than kick the ball yourself.
kilolo
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden150 Posts
June 15 2011 14:23 GMT
#778
Awesome show as always!
darcevader88
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada648 Posts
June 15 2011 14:24 GMT
#779
oh TB, you crack me up.

enjoy your casts/ the tournament you hosted and im a huge Idra fan aswell so the hatefest last night was totally jokes to me
"The ground is my ocean, I'm the shark and most people don't even know how to swim."
Glowbox
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands330 Posts
June 15 2011 14:25 GMT
#780
Does anyone else read this thread and think about this comic: http://xkcd.com/386/ ? I sure as hell do.

I know it can be frustrating TB, but I wish you would just let it go. There's always gonna be haters.
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