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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On October 24 2012 19:10 Rabiator wrote: @Idra The way to make Blizzard listen is to STOP PLAYING THE GAME for a month or two. HotS is the right time to do it, because they expect more sales. Personally I will keep watching sometimes but never ever buy the expansion ... because Blizzard doesnt deserve the money. Charles Boycott you realize that this is how Idra makes his money? He gets paid BECAUSE he plays this game... do you really think he will just not play it or not buy the expac? | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
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LakseWim
Netherlands202 Posts
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pmp10
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By the sheer post count I expected at least some hair tearing-out and maybe a death wish or two. It's like the whole community divided into armies of pissed-off fanboys just waiting for a single nod from their celebrity of choice so they could charge the enemy lines and tear them to pieces. I don't think any other gaming community could discuss such matters passionately in such a civil manner. Seriously - chill out. | ||
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Rasmudd
Sweden127 Posts
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smileface
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Unkown User Request
United States26 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On October 24 2012 19:31 PurpleBebop wrote: I might get in trouble for this but here goes. You guys invited Destiny into that situation with the sole purpose of beating up on him. It sounds as if you all have a lot of the same concerns so. PainUser was able to make you guys realize that after Destiny left. I really don't understand what you were trying to accomplish by making it a personal attack. Is Destiny going about this in the best way? Probably not. But, Destiny has many valid concerns. And your reply is (paraphrasing), "well, we don't really need to worry about these things until later". Serious? Destiny WANTS to grow this community. He wants those 2011 numbers back. I see no problem with that. Destiny wants the changes to be implemented as soon as possible to prevent numbers from declining. Can you honestly say that you are happy with Starcraft numbers being stagnate? This isn't about beating League of Legends. This is about the continued growth of the best damn game in the world, Starcraft 2. DESTINY wanted to be added. DESTINY asked to be part of the discussion. And DESTINY started yelling like a kid and was totally ignorant and agressive. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 24 2012 19:25 pmp10 wrote: Just finished listening to mp3 and I can't believe how much drama this show produced. By the sheer post count I expected at least some hair tearing-out and maybe a death wish or two. It's like the whole community divided into armies of pissed-off fanboys just waiting for a single nod from their celebrity of choice so they could charge the enemy lines and tear them to pieces. I don't think any other gaming community could discuss such matters passionately in such a civil manner. Seriously - chill out. Agreed. Personally, I think Destiny lacks a lot of information and is taking a very simplistic view on SC2 as a whole. Incontrol was right when he said that SC2 was never going to be number 1 forever. Also, I think people are underestimating that how frustrating it would be to argue or discuss this with Destiny. Every time they tried to make the argument that being negative was bringing down the community as a whole, he became upset and was shocked that people who loved BW would say that and why would they put up with Blizzard. As a fan of SC2 and Dota 2, I would not be upset if Destiny moved on to LoL. Besides some train wreck style entertainment, he really has not done anything for my enjoyment of SC2. Most he has distracted from the game itself. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
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On October 24 2012 19:28 Rasmudd wrote: http://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode57/InsideTheGameEpisode57.mp3 repost of mp3. I didn't find it on the first try because of layer deep drama but seeing pmp10's post I went deeper. Thanks. I found the link myself only through Idra's fan club  | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 24 2012 19:31 PurpleBebop wrote: I might get in trouble for this but here goes. You guys invited Destiny into that situation with the sole purpose of beating up on him. It sounds as if you all have a lot of the same concerns so. PainUser was able to make you guys realize that after Destiny left. I really don't understand what you were trying to accomplish by making it a personal attack. Is Destiny going about this in the best way? Probably not. But, Destiny has many valid concerns. And your reply is (paraphrasing), "well, we don't really need to worry about these things until later". Serious? Destiny WANTS to grow this community. He wants those 2011 numbers back. I see no problem with that. Destiny wants the changes to be implemented as soon as possible to prevent numbers from declining. Can you honestly say that you are happy with Starcraft numbers being stagnate? This isn't about beating League of Legends. This is about the continued growth of the best damn game in the world, Starcraft 2. Destiny wanted to be added to the discussion. If they had not added him, he would have freaked out like a child that he was not allowed to come on the show. When he came on the show, he freaked out and yelled like a child because the people on the show did not 100% agree with his approach. He then pulled the "Ill get the last word in, suckers" move when Idra told him that he should just go over to the game with larger numbers. | ||
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Flaw
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On October 24 2012 19:35 bluQ wrote: DESTINY wanted to be added. DESTINY asked to be part of the discussion. And DESTINY started yelling like a kid and was totally ignorant and agressive. You ignore the part where incontrol says Destiny's opinion is 'retarded'. pretty sure he went in all aggressively because of it. If i called you a retard right now, would you get aggressive with me? | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
So our peak will be ~100K, but he forgets that the game at the highest level is boring and bad to watch. ZvP is shit, PvP is shit, ZvZ is shit, TvZ is shit. These match ups are boring to watch. So this 100k will go down and down until we have no one watching. | ||
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Urasim
United States83 Posts
On October 24 2012 19:35 bluQ wrote: DESTINY wanted to be added. DESTINY asked to be part of the discussion. And DESTINY started yelling like a kid and was totally ignorant and agressive. Maybe you missed the part where they (incontol mostly) attacked Destiny when he wasn't there to defend himself... What kind of "respected" community member goes on a show and flames the shit out of someone else when they are not present to defend their beliefs? I am talking full on, hardcore flaming and insulting. Destiny came out and apologized about the way he acted on the show, even though he wasn't anywhere near as bad as the actual hosts. Where's incontrol's apology? | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On October 24 2012 19:43 Pwnographics wrote: So in summary of what Incontrol said; we don't get big viewership numbers because it's a hard game/not a lot of casuals/bad UI/ lack of chat channels etc. So our peak will be ~100K, but he forgets that the game at the highest level is boring and bad to watch. ZvP is shit, PvP is shit, ZvZ is shit, TvZ is shit. These match ups are boring to watch. So this 100k will go down and down until we have no one watching. pvp isnt shit, and pvz is fine, its just motherships and fungal that are boring. On October 24 2012 19:48 Urasim wrote: Maybe you missed the part where they (incontol mostly) attacked Destiny when he wasn't there to defend himself... What kind of "respected" community member goes on a show and flames the shit out of someone else when they are not present to defend their beliefs? I am talking full on, hardcore flaming and insulting. Destiny came out and apologized about the way he acted on the show, even though he wasn't anywhere near as bad as the actual hosts. Where's incontrol's apology? you must be new here ;p | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On October 24 2012 19:50 turdburgler wrote: pvp isnt shit, and pvz is fine, its just motherships and fungal that are boring. PvP is mass collosi wars, wow, that's so fucking fun. PvZ is so fun to watch, 25 minutes of macro, then I vortex or one neural decides the game, amaaaaaazing. We have a game where 4/6 possible match ups are shit, a shit UI, and a shit clan support, a shit UMS system, and no shitty fucking lan. Tell me how this game is not going to die off? | ||
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daliLlama
Sweden25 Posts
Such a toxic environment. You just know the EG-bros and wheat are circle+ Show Spoiler + jerking bukakke jerking Spoilered for graphic language if that sort of thing offends you. Also, comedic effect. | ||
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Supert0fu
United States499 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 24 2012 19:48 Urasim wrote: Maybe you missed the part where they (incontol mostly) attacked Destiny when he wasn't there to defend himself... What kind of "respected" community member goes on a show and flames the shit out of someone else when they are not present to defend their beliefs? I am talking full on, hardcore flaming and insulting. Destiny came out and apologized about the way he acted on the show, even though he wasn't anywhere near as bad as the actual hosts. Where's incontrol's apology? We all saw that part, it is called a counter argument. Destiny's argument had a large number of flaws to it and Incontrol was responding to those. He wasn't attacking Destiny, but he did attack his argument and the bull shit numbers that Destiny was using in his original End of Starcraft 2 post. Destiny should have expected this and that people would strongly disagree with him. Asking to go on a show and then getting pissed at the people on the show for not agreeing with you is just stupid. To be clear, I believe Destiny's argument is stupid. I believe his behavioral is childish and unprofessional. I am not required to call it anything but that, or show respect to him for having beliefs. I am not required to give him the ability to defend himself. I can call his opinion dumb and move on with my life. The only rule the Hosts broke was this: "Never argue with a drunk or a fool." | ||
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