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ShakaZu.Sc2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 01:43:19
May 02 2012 01:41 GMT
#4361
Hey guys just wanted to say great show, sorry I bungled that Destiny/Sponsors questions so badly... Pretty much answered but as far as TeamLiquid goes what I was trying to get at was if they should allow these "witch hunts" not necessarily banning people but just not tolerating the discussion on the board (Like closing the thread when it starts)... I think that you see this mob mentality with people going after sponsors, like oh shit Ive never cared for Destiny but now I can really make him pay... Not realizing they are really hurting someone like SaSe really badly who is freaking amazing but doesn't have the winnings or fanbase to support himself without Quantic as far as I know :/

Thanks for discussing it though!
Check out my stream at http://www.twitch.tv/shakazu and follow me on twitter https://twitter.com/ShakaZuSC2
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
May 02 2012 02:42 GMT
#4362
I got so much respect for Idra and the others for really speaking their mind on things.

Espacially on the whole day9 thing, with cloud, where he claims to be in money trouble, but actually earns alot more then people would think. I hope you guys talk and touch on the subject again, with does the casters have too much power to change peoples mind about players. Espacially a guy like day9 could really make people think better or worse about a player, because he got so many followers. And espacially, because he almost got a cult status in the community.

I really liked this episodes, shame with the bad trolls, they werent even funny.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 02:57:44
May 02 2012 02:57 GMT
#4363
On May 02 2012 10:31 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 10:15 OceanLab wrote:
On May 02 2012 10:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
Man idra hit the nail on the head when he said that people contacting sponsors is basically people trying to make themselves seem important. Its pretty disgusting if you actually think about it.

Or it could be people wanting a "racism-free" community. not that I would agree with them, but I don't think that "grasp for attention" is the actual reason behind people complaining to the sponsors. It really felt like an easy way to dismiss the debate imo.
Again, I wouldn't ever do that, but I have friends that care about those things, and complained to Quantic, and I can promise you one thing, they aren't attention seekers at all, nor are they trying to be important. And I find it rather funny to hear stuff like that from incontrol, considering he ALWAYS says that we should email sponsors to thank them for their support.


You can't tell the difference between emailing a sponsor to thank them and emailing a sponsor to threaten them about the poor decisions of individuals?

Really?

Just so we are clear I also encourage people to support players but wouldn't like it if you actively tried to ruin their lives.


I think you're doing yourself a disservice by pleading for people not to contact sponsors every chance you get. If this is really just a handful of malicious trolls, they're not going to listen to you, and if it's actually a legitimate group of fans that are offended by these incidents to such an extent then brushing them off as attention seeking trolls is certainly not going to address their concerns.

You should be acknowledging people's right to voice whatever opinion they have and maybe actually try to address the issue that the internet gaming community has a distinct culture where the competitive atmosphere heightens emotions in a similar manner to sports, yet unlike real sports there's no physical consequences for any trash talking that occurs. This leads to incidents like what happened to our mild mannered friend Orb who would never hurt a fly. At least in physical sports there's a built in correction mechanism where if you talk all kinds of shit there are real consequences for you. In an online world, there's no equivalent - until you start trying to make a career out of it. I think this is the real underlying issue that, if esports is in such a delicate position as to be vulnerable to a few trolls contacting sponsors, should probably be addressed sooner rather than later.
FivepuLse
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1 Post
May 02 2012 02:58 GMT
#4364
djWHEAT and Idra getting pranked on ITG! LOL

User was banned for this post.
Idra is the best.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 02 2012 03:02 GMT
#4365
On May 02 2012 11:57 BuddhaMonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 10:31 iNcontroL wrote:
On May 02 2012 10:15 OceanLab wrote:
On May 02 2012 10:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
Man idra hit the nail on the head when he said that people contacting sponsors is basically people trying to make themselves seem important. Its pretty disgusting if you actually think about it.

Or it could be people wanting a "racism-free" community. not that I would agree with them, but I don't think that "grasp for attention" is the actual reason behind people complaining to the sponsors. It really felt like an easy way to dismiss the debate imo.
Again, I wouldn't ever do that, but I have friends that care about those things, and complained to Quantic, and I can promise you one thing, they aren't attention seekers at all, nor are they trying to be important. And I find it rather funny to hear stuff like that from incontrol, considering he ALWAYS says that we should email sponsors to thank them for their support.


You can't tell the difference between emailing a sponsor to thank them and emailing a sponsor to threaten them about the poor decisions of individuals?

Really?

Just so we are clear I also encourage people to support players but wouldn't like it if you actively tried to ruin their lives.


I think you're doing yourself a disservice by pleading for people not to contact sponsors every chance you get. If this is really just a handful of malicious trolls, they're not going to listen to you, and if it's actually a legitimate group of fans that are offended by these incidents to such an extent then brushing them off as attention seeking trolls is certainly not going to address their concerns.

You should be acknowledging people's right to voice whatever opinion they have and maybe actually try to address the issue that the internet gaming community has a distinct culture where the competitive atmosphere heightens emotions in a similar manner to sports, yet unlike real sports there's no physical consequences for any trash talking that occurs. This leads to incidents like what happened to our mild mannered friend Orb who would never hurt a fly. At least in physical sports there's a built in correction mechanism where if you talk all kinds of shit there are real consequences for you. In an online world, there's no equivalent - until you start trying to make a career out of it. I think this is the real underlying issue that, if esports is in such a delicate position as to be vulnerable to a few trolls contacting sponsors, should probably be addressed sooner rather than later.


It isn't just trolls contacting sponsors in fact I bet there are next to 0 trolls contacting sponsors.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 02 2012 03:08 GMT
#4366
On May 02 2012 11:58 FivepuLse wrote:
djWHEAT and Idra getting pranked on ITG! LOL


OMG IS SO FUNNY M I RIGHT!?!?!

No, it isn't funny.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 03:17:02
May 02 2012 03:09 GMT
#4367
On May 02 2012 11:58 FivepuLse wrote:
djWHEAT and Idra getting pranked on ITG! LOL


What world do you live in that this is enjoyable to you? You made a Youtube vid? Seriously? Fuck, man, that's some crazy dedication for some 2nd grade comedic thinking.
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
May 02 2012 03:16 GMT
#4368
Episode 40 MP3 is up:

Soundcloud: http://snd.sc/JBH7Mg
Torrent: http://db.tt/enVdMQue
Blog: http://itg-audio.blogspot.com/2012/05/inside-game-40.html
ESPORTS prevails
SpinmovE
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada119 Posts
May 02 2012 04:25 GMT
#4369
On May 02 2012 12:16 Hashbaz wrote:
Episode 40 MP3 is up:

Soundcloud: http://snd.sc/JBH7Mg
Torrent: http://db.tt/enVdMQue
Blog: http://itg-audio.blogspot.com/2012/05/inside-game-40.html


It's a little mind blowing that they still can't produce their own mp3's or update the OP of this post with links to the VODs. How long has it been now with literally no improvement? 6 months?
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
May 02 2012 05:17 GMT
#4370
that was a great episode. agreed with most points made by idra and incontrol on Cloud's vlog about casters and players.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 06:50:40
May 02 2012 06:49 GMT
#4371
Man I just gg out every time these calls start rolling in.I know the novelty of you show is that fans get to talk to pro players but holy shit man,I get spasms when I listen to these questions and the good ones that come after like the 5th troll/bad question isn't even worth waiting for because at that point you just cover your head with your hands to brace yourself for the next one.I love your shows Wheat but if you ever considered to change the format a little bit and decide to take questions over twitter or something like that would make the show so much better.At least in my eyes.
Cackle™
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 02 2012 07:19 GMT
#4372
On May 02 2012 12:16 Hashbaz wrote:
Episode 40 MP3 is up:

Soundcloud: http://snd.sc/JBH7Mg
Torrent: http://db.tt/enVdMQue
Blog: http://itg-audio.blogspot.com/2012/05/inside-game-40.html


So great waking up, downloading the new ITG and walking to work with awesome in my ears.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 02 2012 07:24 GMT
#4373
I wish there was an "Imbalanced" segment on ITG with special guest Artosis to discuss stuff with idra. I don't know exactly why, but that would make my day. =)
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
May 02 2012 07:41 GMT
#4374
On May 02 2012 12:16 Hashbaz wrote:
Episode 40 MP3 is up:

Soundcloud: http://snd.sc/JBH7Mg
Torrent: http://db.tt/enVdMQue
Blog: http://itg-audio.blogspot.com/2012/05/inside-game-40.html


hashbaz hashbaz hashbaz!
The Show of a Lifetime
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
May 02 2012 08:05 GMT
#4375
On May 02 2012 11:58 FivepuLse wrote:
djWHEAT and Idra getting pranked on ITG! LOL

User was banned for this post.


god i hope ur non throwaway gets banned as well
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 10:44:06
May 02 2012 10:43 GMT
#4376
wrong thread
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
May 02 2012 10:46 GMT
#4377
On May 02 2012 12:16 Hashbaz wrote:
Episode 40 MP3 is up:

Soundcloud: http://snd.sc/JBH7Mg
Torrent: http://db.tt/enVdMQue
Blog: http://itg-audio.blogspot.com/2012/05/inside-game-40.html


Again, thanku so much for doing this!
Dance those ultras
itsNifty
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands29 Posts
May 02 2012 10:50 GMT
#4378
Yesterday painuser was like, like, like !
u mad bro?
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
May 02 2012 11:07 GMT
#4379
On May 02 2012 19:50 itsNifty wrote:
Yesterday painuser was like, like, like !


Yes, this is extremely painful to listen to. Please for the love of God, try to refrain from doing this.
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
May 02 2012 13:47 GMT
#4380
On May 02 2012 09:07 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 08:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
100% disagree with Incontrol's view on casting.

Not to mention in European football the commentators will shit on bad play all the time. Whenever I watch Sc2 games I always feel like the casters spend half the time outright lying to me and it's pretty annoying.


well i agree 100% on it, mostly because

1. they spend 30 seconds to a minute harping on a "blunder" that is inconsequential and deserves a 4 second mention and nothing else
2. most of the time, the "blunder" being a "blunder" is a matter of opinion, and it seems like the casters are usually actually WRONG that it is a "blunder"

To me both are an issue – it’s important to say something politely and move on to the next thing. I hate how Tastosis and many other casters exaggerate the praise such as “this guy is actually so good” after every other series. Then you have the other extreme of someone like Wolf who casts in an extremely “questioning” tone and focuses too much on the “doubt” aspect of casting. Like qxc says, you don’t have time to analyse on the fly because you need to keep moving on as the game is progressing.

Bitterdam are a bit too honest and they’re an example of people who aren’t afraid to call out the game balance and that’s actually not appropriate for doing a commercial broadcast. I enjoy very few games because I can’t stand that SC2 is so bad, yet it’s probably the best current RTS e-sport. People wouldn’t enjoy my commentary, that’s for sure :D. It’s especially problematic to see when to praise the winner and when to be honest and point out that the other player lost the game – you don’t want to defame every player who loses but if both players played bad, just one played even worse then I hate hearing exaggerated praise.
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