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FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
May 02 2012 00:39 GMT
#4341
You ask 2 terrible questions and get to ask another? Where's fucking Goatlust.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 00:46:32
May 02 2012 00:42 GMT
#4342
On May 02 2012 09:13 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 08:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
100% disagree with Incontrol's view on casting.

Not to mention in European football the commentators will shit on bad play all the time. Whenever I watch Sc2 games I always feel like the casters spend half the time outright lying to me and it's pretty annoying.


Football casters don't repeatedly talk about previous mistakes. You don't hear them saying "Messi missed that penaly 20 minutes ago and now they are losing, what a terrible mistake that was, i can't believe it" again and again. Which is what we hear from a lot of casters "cough" Tasteless "cough".

It's the same as calling GG early. If it's 4-0 in a football game, casters will say things like " i don't see them coming back" or "they will need a miracle". But they won't say that every two minutes.


On an other topic, i don't know what the guys ate today but man, they bring an all other meaning to "no fluff".
Holy shit, except for naming the caster who hate the games, they criticized pretty much every personnality in the game.




Maybe not in Belgium but English commentators do both of those things always.

On May 02 2012 09:15 FreudianTrip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:13 Diavlo wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
100% disagree with Incontrol's view on casting.

Not to mention in European football the commentators will shit on bad play all the time. Whenever I watch Sc2 games I always feel like the casters spend half the time outright lying to me and it's pretty annoying.


Football casters don't repeatedly talk about previous mistakes. You don't hear them saying "Messi missed that penaly 20 minutes ago and now they are losing, what a terrible mistake that was, i can't believe it" again and again. Which is what we hear from a lot of casters "cough" Tasteless "cough".

It's the same as calling GG early. If it's 4-0 in a football game, casters will say things like " i don't see them coming back or "they will need a miracle". But they won't say that every two minutes.





You're listening to different football commentators than me...


Exactly, and last I checked football is somewhat popular.


On May 02 2012 09:07 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 08:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
100% disagree with Incontrol's view on casting.

Not to mention in European football the commentators will shit on bad play all the time. Whenever I watch Sc2 games I always feel like the casters spend half the time outright lying to me and it's pretty annoying.


well i agree 100% on it, mostly because

1. they spend 30 seconds to a minute harping on a "blunder" that is inconsequential and deserves a 4 second mention and nothing else
2. most of the time, the "blunder" being a "blunder" is a matter of opinion, and it seems like the casters are usually actually WRONG that it is a "blunder"


You're talking about a totally different thing, which is being factually incorrect. If you're factually correct that a player makes a major game changing mistake then casters should call it out. Perhaps this fake positivity is an American thing but it sure as hell doesn't exist in British commentary for anything.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
May 02 2012 00:47 GMT
#4343
Oh jeez, it's a Plat player with Ladder Anxiety who wants to play in a Major. Quality callers tonight. Goatlust pleez.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
May 02 2012 00:52 GMT
#4344
On May 02 2012 09:47 FreudianTrip wrote:
Oh jeez, it's a Plat player with Ladder Anxiety who wants to play in a Major. Quality callers tonight. Goatlust pleez.


No harm in dreaming big when you are just 16 years old.
Edahspmal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States156 Posts
May 02 2012 00:52 GMT
#4345
who did they say Fenrir is?
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
May 02 2012 00:52 GMT
#4346
Violet
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
May 02 2012 00:57 GMT
#4347
thats pretty sick i hope he starts streaming again
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
May 02 2012 00:58 GMT
#4348
weirdly violets winrate on his main char is 27-26 but on fenrir is like 80% + win rate
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 02 2012 00:59 GMT
#4349
Yay finally goatlust, hopefully his question will make up for the other ones.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
May 02 2012 01:06 GMT
#4350
I would like an episode of 'Inside The GoatLust'
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
May 02 2012 01:06 GMT
#4351
On May 02 2012 09:58 Rulker wrote:
weirdly violets winrate on his main char is 27-26 but on fenrir is like 80% + win rate

You forgot the part where he plays Protoss on his EmpireViolet account
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
May 02 2012 01:09 GMT
#4352
On May 02 2012 10:06 FreudianTrip wrote:
I would like an episode of 'Inside The GoatLust'


I'm interested in what he looks like to go with his voice I hear every episode
you live and you learn
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 01:11:14
May 02 2012 01:10 GMT
#4353
Man idra hit the nail on the head when he said that people contacting sponsors is basically people trying to make themselves seem important. Its pretty disgusting if you actually think about it.


On May 02 2012 10:09 illsick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 10:06 FreudianTrip wrote:
I would like an episode of 'Inside The GoatLust'


I'm interested in what he looks like to go with his voice I hear every episode


I don't remember when, but there is an episode of I think LO3 (maybe their 100th episode) where Goatlust leaves a message and they have a picture of him up while playing the message.
OceanLab
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France505 Posts
May 02 2012 01:15 GMT
#4354
On May 02 2012 10:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
Man idra hit the nail on the head when he said that people contacting sponsors is basically people trying to make themselves seem important. Its pretty disgusting if you actually think about it.

Or it could be people wanting a "racism-free" community. not that I would agree with them, but I don't think that "grasp for attention" is the actual reason behind people complaining to the sponsors. It really felt like an easy way to dismiss the debate imo.
Again, I wouldn't ever do that, but I have friends that care about those things, and complained to Quantic, and I can promise you one thing, they aren't attention seekers at all, nor are they trying to be important. And I find it rather funny to hear stuff like that from incontrol, considering he ALWAYS says that we should email sponsors to thank them for their support.
Liquid through and through
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 02 2012 01:28 GMT
#4355
On May 02 2012 10:15 OceanLab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 10:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
Man idra hit the nail on the head when he said that people contacting sponsors is basically people trying to make themselves seem important. Its pretty disgusting if you actually think about it.

Or it could be people wanting a "racism-free" community. not that I would agree with them, but I don't think that "grasp for attention" is the actual reason behind people complaining to the sponsors. It really felt like an easy way to dismiss the debate imo.
Again, I wouldn't ever do that, but I have friends that care about those things, and complained to Quantic, and I can promise you one thing, they aren't attention seekers at all, nor are they trying to be important. And I find it rather funny to hear stuff like that from incontrol, considering he ALWAYS says that we should email sponsors to thank them for their support.


Emailing Quantic is fine, emailing the sponsors directly is different, which is what they were talking about. They encouraged people to give negative feedback to Quantic themselves, but don't want people to go over their head to Razer.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
May 02 2012 01:29 GMT
#4356
On May 02 2012 10:15 OceanLab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 10:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
Man idra hit the nail on the head when he said that people contacting sponsors is basically people trying to make themselves seem important. Its pretty disgusting if you actually think about it.

Or it could be people wanting a "racism-free" community. not that I would agree with them, but I don't think that "grasp for attention" is the actual reason behind people complaining to the sponsors. It really felt like an easy way to dismiss the debate imo.
Again, I wouldn't ever do that, but I have friends that care about those things, and complained to Quantic, and I can promise you one thing, they aren't attention seekers at all, nor are they trying to be important. And I find it rather funny to hear stuff like that from incontrol, considering he ALWAYS says that we should email sponsors to thank them for their support.


Forcing your own perspective or opinions on people is generally a bad idea. The vocal minority express their opinion in a way that can give sponsors a negative perspective on the whole community, which isn't actually fair. In a hypothetical situation, if 200 people emailed sponsors. that could influence their decision a hell of a lot. So is it right for those 200 peoples opinion to be held in higher regard than the 1,000,000 others just because they screamed and shouted the loudest? Sponsors don't have the time to find out how the whole community feels on situations and what the status quo is within that environment.


Also it makes sense for Incontrol to want people to email in and thank the sponsors. If he believes that emailing in is detrimental to the business model, wanting people to email in positive comments is pretty rational.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 02 2012 01:31 GMT
#4357
On May 02 2012 10:15 OceanLab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 10:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
Man idra hit the nail on the head when he said that people contacting sponsors is basically people trying to make themselves seem important. Its pretty disgusting if you actually think about it.

Or it could be people wanting a "racism-free" community. not that I would agree with them, but I don't think that "grasp for attention" is the actual reason behind people complaining to the sponsors. It really felt like an easy way to dismiss the debate imo.
Again, I wouldn't ever do that, but I have friends that care about those things, and complained to Quantic, and I can promise you one thing, they aren't attention seekers at all, nor are they trying to be important. And I find it rather funny to hear stuff like that from incontrol, considering he ALWAYS says that we should email sponsors to thank them for their support.


You can't tell the difference between emailing a sponsor to thank them and emailing a sponsor to threaten them about the poor decisions of individuals?

Really?

Just so we are clear I also encourage people to support players but wouldn't like it if you actively tried to ruin their lives.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 02 2012 01:33 GMT
#4358
On May 02 2012 10:31 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 10:15 OceanLab wrote:
On May 02 2012 10:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
Man idra hit the nail on the head when he said that people contacting sponsors is basically people trying to make themselves seem important. Its pretty disgusting if you actually think about it.

Or it could be people wanting a "racism-free" community. not that I would agree with them, but I don't think that "grasp for attention" is the actual reason behind people complaining to the sponsors. It really felt like an easy way to dismiss the debate imo.
Again, I wouldn't ever do that, but I have friends that care about those things, and complained to Quantic, and I can promise you one thing, they aren't attention seekers at all, nor are they trying to be important. And I find it rather funny to hear stuff like that from incontrol, considering he ALWAYS says that we should email sponsors to thank them for their support.


You can't tell the difference between emailing a sponsor to thank them and emailing a sponsor to threaten them about the poor decisions of individuals?

Really?

Just so we are clear I also encourage people to support players but wouldn't like it if you actively tried to ruin their lives.


I'm emailing Steelseries because you outdrank me back in Boston and I felt sick the next day, by the way

just thought you should know.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
May 02 2012 01:35 GMT
#4359
So, during this last show, there was a question as to whether Nony "deserved" his position on TL considering he doesn't practice as much as some. I'm actually a huge Nony fan. I think he deserves his position on TL based on his 1) his skill and 2) his personality. But I think there was an opportunity to have a very interesting discussion based on the question that was asked.

Instead, I felt that the show hosts jumped to Nony's defense. As friends, this is normal response, and I wouldn't make a big deal about it if I didn't see a similar thing occur frequently on DJWheat's shows. If a caller asks a questions which DJWheat disagrees with he really shuts down discussion on a potentially interesting topic.

Ironically, Geoff and Idra, who I believe know Nony the best, were the only ones to make the most of the question.

Again, this wasn't an egregious example. And DJWheat is a passionate host -- and nobody would want to take that away from him. But it takes no skill to defeat someone in an argument when you control the microphones. It takes real hosting talent to turn a somewhat flawed question into a great discussion.

Liked this ITG very much.
ZessiM
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom232 Posts
May 02 2012 01:37 GMT
#4360
Happy birthday, Inside The Game!


People, try harder to ask more original questions. We've heard this bs questions about the next foreign hope, other games as esports and queries about the conduct of community members a billion fucking times
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