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[Int] DongRaeGu - Message from Korea #1

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b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
May 02 2011 16:51 GMT
#1
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In the Korean scene, there are more high level players than the ones you see in GSL. However, we don't often hear about these players due to language barriers. GSL is the premier StarCraft 2 tournament, yet at the end of the day it is only but one tournament in StarCraft 2,

Korean players have been invited to participate in various tournaments with the prize pool ranging from hundreds to thousands. Yet these Koreans are the ones who have set a mark upon GSL and GSTL. We rarely see less prominent players getting featured in the foreigner scene. I aim to change that.

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(Z)DongRaeGu is a grandmaster Zerg that is currently in Team MVP, one of the newer Korean teams. Known for his multitasking, he is one of the up and coming Zergs in Korea and can be considered one of the team's aces. His most notable achievements was when he was the first player to reach 4000 ladder points.

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Q. Tell us a bit about yourself and your gaming history in Starcraft 2 so far.
I'm (Z)DongRaeGu (SooHo, Park) and currently I'm in MVP team. I'm 21 years old and from Busan, Korea. My most notable achievement so far has been when I was the first to score 4000 points in ladder.

Q. How did you get into team MVP?
I got into MVP team by getting scouted by the manager (Yoon Sang, Choi). I first met with him during the March GSL qualifiers and while chatting with the manager, he asked me if I wanted to join and gave me some time to decide. After a week I decided to join MVP along with (P)Genius since the manager promised me good "treatment" and since the team was newly created, I thought I could be the team's ace.

Q. What do you think about life in team MVP?
I feel as if life in the team is a school trip since there are a lot of players around my age, like (P)Genius. I don't go out much everyday, mostly for snacks. Even during weekends I don't go out much since the team house is in Incheon and my home is back in Busan at the bottom of the peninsula. Plus, it takes a couple hours drive to go back to my home. I pretty much spend most of my time practicing.

Q. What's the practice schedule like for you in team MVP?
During the GSL season, the team is focused only on the GSL participants, whereas those who aren't participating work their ass off in ladder. When the GSL season is over, we play 2-4 games against each of my teammates.

Q. It seems like you and (P)Genius are great friends. What is your history with him and do you have a rivalry together?
Back in Brood war, a hyung (older "brother") introduced me to (P)Genius since we were both the same age and played the same race (Terran). We shared tons of builds, strategies, and replays together. I didn't have a rivalry with him in Brood War since we were both players far from becoming pros in BW.

In SC2 beta, I played Protoss. However I found out that (P)Genius was a famous Protoss user and I developed a "rivalry sense". I found it "dirty" to play as a Protoss because genius was also a Protoss so I switched to Zerg.

Q. You mentioned you were far from becoming pros in BW. What do you think is the biggest difference between being a SC1 and SC2 progamer.
It's too difficult and challenging to become a pro in BW because all the teams are run by big companies so it's more closed. In SC2, because the ladder system shows rankings it promotes people to challenge themselves more and makes it a bit easier to become well known.

Q. Since you used to be a Protoss, why did you decide to switch to Zerg?
Because of BW, my APM was pretty fast so I was able to multitask a lot. I felt that Terran didn't need much multitasking but Zerg needed a lot of multitasking like larva injection, creep spreading, and constant expansions. Therefore I felt my playstyle was more suited to playing Zerg

Q. You weren't able to qualify in GSL Code A. What happened?
Zerg is too weak when it comes to defending timing attacks and all-ins especially proxy 2gates. In the GSL qualifiers vs (P)IMSeed, I won the first game after defending a cannon rush and a 4gate. In the second game I lost to a 15 nexus 7gate all-in build, and in the 3rd game I went for a push but lost.

Q. Many Zergs complain about the forcefields and Colossus in ZvP. Why do you think Zerg doesn't use Ultralisks to break Force Fields more?
I don't really complain about Force Fields and Colossus as I find ways to try and get out of those situations but I still hate it when I make the wrong decision and it costs me the game.

It's not easy to get ultras since I have to fight off Stalkers and Colossus.Ultralisks are really high up in the tech tree and before then, Protoss can still use Force Fields many times. However, I think Broodlords are better than Ultras as it's much easier to win the game with 10 Broodlords than 10 Ultras. Even getting 2-3 Ultras is really hard.

Q. Many Zergs have been experimenting with Infestors. How important do you think they are in ZvT?

After the patch, in a mid-long game its compulsory to get Infestors. The longer the game goes, Infestors become much more important than Banelings especially in a management game. Late game Terran would have a lot of mech units which makes its hard for the Zerg to attack the marines so Zergs needs Infestor for another AOE option besides Banelings. Infestors is also getting important in lategame ZvP as well.

Q. Hydralisks are starting to see lesser use in ZvsP, in ZvZ zergs have tried to use Hydralisks, do you think that a Roach + Infestor army is still better?
Hydralisks are useless and eat up money. It's only useful if the opponent goes Mutas, Voids, or Phoenix. Before the Infestor patch, I used to use a lot of Hydras but after the buff, it's better to use Roach + Infestors for DPS. Even before the patch, I used very little Hydras in ZvsP since Roach and Hydras are shit together.

Q. This year GSL has been making more maps, what do you think about the GSL and ladder maps?
GSL maps are quite fun especially since maps don't have close spawn positions. However thinking about ladder maps makes me go "shit" and "fuck". They're the reason why Terran are taking over ladder. The map I hate most is Crossfire since the rush distance is too close. Protoss and Terran get too much advantage when they have map control. I also don't like Delta Quadrant. There's nothing to say about that map, it just sucks.

Q. How much do you know about Teamliquid.net and the foreigner scene?
I know that Xeph mirror'ed my stream from Daum Pot and it was posted on TL.net. I tried to find posts in Teamliquid about my stream but I couldn't find any.
I think it's good that there are lots of leagues and events to participate in the foreign scene, however if I wasn't in Korea I think that I would be able to post a lot of good results in these tournaments. Nevertheless foreigners are still good unlike Brood War. I've played players like (T)Jinro, (P)HuK, and (Z)DIMAGA on ladder and I think that (P)HuK is the best foreigner in starcraft 2.

Q. What do you think about SC2's growth in Korea?
StarCraft 2 has grown a lot faster than I thought and is still growing fast in Korea. I believe that there will be more leagues coming up in the future.

Q. Anything you like to say to TL.net?
Please support me a lot when I get to play in GSL or GSTL !

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What better way to get recognized than an exclusive replay from the man himself?

DongRaeGu replay



Credit goes to NEXenTech (Mike Kang - ZeNEX staff member) for helping to translate for DongRaeGu.
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Glueburn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 16:56:31
May 02 2011 16:56 GMT
#2
Is this going to be a special segment or something? or have I missed previous editions.

Seems to be a great player though, and looks like he has the potential to play all the races at a high level, which is a extraordinary trait.

If only foreignors could watch korean streams and such.
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
May 02 2011 16:56 GMT
#3
Thanks! Great interview.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
May 02 2011 16:58 GMT
#4
very much like the interview

thanks
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Liquid`HayprO
Profile Joined March 2003
Iraq1230 Posts
May 02 2011 16:59 GMT
#5
very nice interview
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MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
May 02 2011 17:01 GMT
#6
Great guy, loved watching him play on Xeph's stream

I really think that he has the potential to be the next Zerg hero that everyone's looking for
Zephy
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany42 Posts
May 02 2011 17:01 GMT
#7
Sweet. He seems like a person who speaks his mind, which is something I've always liked. Hopefully we'll be able to see more Zergs in the GSL/GSTL!
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
May 02 2011 17:03 GMT
#8
This is like the reverse of what normally happens when foreigners request Korean input or reactions. I definitely like the idea of helping bring lesser known, but perhaps not lesser skilled, Korean players to light of foreign fans.

I know I have seen Jinro/Huk/MC*(on Jinro's)/ and oGsTheWind stream on TL before. I would suggest/request that perhaps more Korean players trying to break out in the pro scene maybe share some streaming here. If it becomes popular enough perhaps the admins would not mind customizing the "feature" section to divide it up by teams. With anything not a pro stream being General Features, then obviously not featured be the rest.

Its hard to find interesting players if they are all lumped together with everyone else in the "other" category.
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
May 02 2011 17:03 GMT
#9
I have been hyping this guy up so much since I first saw him on Xeph's stream and was literally bummed out when I learned he didn't qualify for GSL May. I hope MVP does well this season and gets enough points to qualify for GSTL so we can finally see him in the booth. His multi-tasking and decision making is absolutely insane. He played against MKP in that house attack they showed in between Code S sets the other night and he made a sick move with his banelings against blue flame hellions but ultimately ended up losing.

This guy is the real deal.
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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 17:04:33
May 02 2011 17:04 GMT
#10
Need more editions of things like that with other players.

And WE NEED XEPH back to mirror more streams!
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
May 02 2011 17:04 GMT
#11
DONG ftw!
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
May 02 2011 17:05 GMT
#12
Great interview! Back when he streamed he seemed to be ahead of everyone else in the metagame, so I was very interested in what he was doing outside of GSL. I am definetly rooting for him!
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 02 2011 17:05 GMT
#13
Nice idea, nice thread, nice interview. Going to watch those replays avidly.
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
May 02 2011 17:06 GMT
#14
I love this guy he when his stream was on TL it was pretty inspirational, I looked forward to it the most! Hope he gets to to be in the spot light eventually ^^
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dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
May 02 2011 17:06 GMT
#15
He says roaches and hydras are 'shit' together? I need an explanation x_x
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I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
May 02 2011 17:06 GMT
#16
This is really cool thanks for the interview. I'm going to watch the replays once I get off work. It'll be interesting to see how a 4k ladder point zerg plays.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
May 02 2011 17:06 GMT
#17
This is wonderful, I'm really glad to see something like this. There are so many more extremely skilled players in Korea, and we only get insight from them when we see them in GSL or GSTL, or someone translates something for us. Thank you very much for this, and I will certainly root for you of you make it into Code A!!!
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Momildo
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil93 Posts
May 02 2011 17:07 GMT
#18
Great interview, with real answers instead of those generic ones!
Hope more will come!!
Colourz
Profile Joined January 2011
England27 Posts
May 02 2011 17:07 GMT
#19
Good to know about some of the other non-gsl players, is there anywhere I can view some of the old streams?
apalemorning
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada509 Posts
May 02 2011 17:07 GMT
#20
dongraegu is a baller. i just wish koreans werent so tightassed about replays/streams. oh well
immortal/roach is pretty good against stalkers
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
May 02 2011 17:09 GMT
#21
Sweet interview, saw him play some months ago on Xeph stream, very decisive and impressive play back then.
zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
May 02 2011 17:09 GMT
#22
On May 03 2011 02:03 last light wrote:
I hope MVP does well this season and gets enough points to qualify for GSTL so we can finally see him in the booth.


I understand you meant DRG of Team MVP. This can get confusing because there is another MVP of Team IM, u know.
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
May 02 2011 17:09 GMT
#23
This is cool. He does make the mistake of thinking that the foreigners based in Korea are the best foreigners in SC2. A pity.
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
May 02 2011 17:10 GMT
#24
Awesome zerg! Really impressive play.

I used to watch DRG whenever Xeph would stream it. Glad he is getting some more exposure.
CatalysT.
Profile Joined January 2011
59 Posts
May 02 2011 17:11 GMT
#25
On May 03 2011 02:06 dc302 wrote:
He says roaches and hydras are 'shit' together? I need an explanation x_x

I believe he thinks roaches and hydras are so terrible together is because they have different attack times. So with kitting they just dont do well together. Eventually hydras will end up in front of the roaches and what is the point of that? I personally think the speed of the two units should be flipped.
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
May 02 2011 17:11 GMT
#26
Wow thanks for the interview, this player seems to have a really good understanding of the game, however there's something that bothers me, when he says:
Hydralisks are useless and eat up money.

I mean, wow this is quite a bold statement, isn't it? In my opinion when used correctly and at good timings, hydralisks can be fearsome. + Show Spoiler +
for example in the IGN IPL we saw that even on huge maps such as Terminus, hydralisks have the potential to be very effective.

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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 02 2011 17:13 GMT
#27
omg a replay ... please find more!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 02 2011 17:15 GMT
#28
On May 03 2011 02:11 AlBundy wrote:
Wow thanks for the interview, this player seems to have a really good understanding of the game, however there's something that bothers me, when he says:
Show nested quote +
Hydralisks are useless and eat up money.

I mean, wow this is quite a bold statement, isn't it? In my opinion when used correctly and at good timings, hydralisks can be fearsome. + Show Spoiler +
for example in the IGN IPL we saw that even on huge maps such as Terminus, hydralisks have the potential to be very effective.



Zergs are almost all tending away from hydra based strats. Only certain timing attacks use Hydras in big numbers. So when he says hydras are useless and eat up money he is basically saying what most zergs have said since well forever.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 17:17:12
May 02 2011 17:16 GMT
#29
Too bad Xeph seems to have vanished; probably busy with school

He was your biggest fan DongRaeGu. This was the thread, if you are still interested in reading it http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181001
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
May 02 2011 17:17 GMT
#30
DRG is one of the zergs that i look up to, even if i'm terran.

+ I miss Xeph stream so much =(
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
May 02 2011 17:17 GMT
#31
Hope to see him in gsl soon!
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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
May 02 2011 17:18 GMT
#32
solid interview
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DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
May 02 2011 17:19 GMT
#33
On May 03 2011 02:11 AlBundy wrote:
Wow thanks for the interview, this player seems to have a really good understanding of the game, however there's something that bothers me, when he says:
Show nested quote +
Hydralisks are useless and eat up money.

I mean, wow this is quite a bold statement, isn't it? In my opinion when used correctly and at good timings, hydralisks can be fearsome. + Show Spoiler +
for example in the IGN IPL we saw that even on huge maps such as Terminus, hydralisks have the potential to be very effective.



His view on units isn't completely serious; he exagerates his views for comedy or to get his point across. When he was streaming, the zergling was the only unit that wasn't "shit" lol.
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
May 02 2011 17:19 GMT
#34
Thanks for the interview. More strategy questions please
drsnuggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)362 Posts
May 02 2011 17:19 GMT
#35
Well Xeph hasn't vanished, he's still coming online at Skype etc., he just doesn't stream anymore ^^
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 02 2011 17:22 GMT
#36
HuK HuK HuK!

Amazing interview from start to finish. Definitely downloading this replay pack.

For the Swarm <3
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CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
May 02 2011 17:22 GMT
#37
nice ty for this interview
ExquisiteRed
Profile Joined February 2011
396 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 17:25:13
May 02 2011 17:24 GMT
#38
On May 03 2011 02:06 dc302 wrote:
He says roaches and hydras are 'shit' together? I need an explanation x_x



Ever seen roach hydra against a protoss death ball =P. Thats the reason why the zerg metagame has shifted more towards roaches, infestors and baneling drops.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
May 02 2011 17:26 GMT
#39
Thanks for this interview!

Huk, please play the way you do in practice games and ladder games..!
Yargh
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 17:30:41
May 02 2011 17:27 GMT
#40
On May 03 2011 01:56 CampinSam wrote:
Is this going to be a special segment or something? or have I missed previous editions.

Seems to be a great player though, and looks like he has the potential to play all the races at a high level, which is a extraordinary trait.

If only foreignors could watch korean streams and such.

It says #1, as in the first edition. Also, Koreans don't stream nearly as much, if at all afaik.

And HayPro is from Iraq O.o?
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Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
May 02 2011 17:28 GMT
#41
get xeph back!!
BoxeR, HuK, IdrA, Minigun, MVP <3
cmgillett
Profile Joined March 2010
United States335 Posts
May 02 2011 17:36 GMT
#42
this is great, thank you!
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 02 2011 17:36 GMT
#43
is this the guy idra said was really bad and him being top of the ladder was like piqliq being top of the american ladder? interesting interview, seems like a cool guy, reminded me how much i miss xephs stream
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Dubpace
Profile Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
May 02 2011 17:41 GMT
#44
I am a really big fan of DRG and have been for a long time...if there is any way to let him know that there are foreigners out there that know about him and are fans PLEASE let him know!

Thank you so much <3
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
May 02 2011 17:43 GMT
#45
Great interview, it's good to see a Korean that speaks his mind about the game.
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
May 02 2011 17:43 GMT
#46
Would like to know if this guy was inspired by spanishiwa for his opener, or if its a pure coincidence that the first 12minutes is played within 90% accuracy of spanishiwas ice fisher build.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 02 2011 17:48 GMT
#47
This is super cool! It must be insanely competitive in the top 500korea since they all know they can probably supplant a lot of people in code A. Makes for a very crazy ladder (which HuK seems to dominate every time I watch him stream xD)!
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 02 2011 17:49 GMT
#48
Nice interview, we need more of these. Funny to see btw how he met with genius when they were both terran. One is toss now, one is zerg
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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
May 02 2011 17:49 GMT
#49
On May 03 2011 02:07 Colourz wrote:
Good to know about some of the other non-gsl players, is there anywhere I can view some of the old streams?


Pro gamers asked Xeph to not release the VODs of the stream because they fear to be analyzed by other pro gamers, so no VOD available and xeph seems to be away since A LONG TIME so no more live streams like that :'(
I loved to watch TheStC, guineapig, MC, ...
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Senj
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States193 Posts
May 02 2011 17:52 GMT
#50
Great interview! I'm looking forward to him breaking on to the pro scene. Gonna check out his replay too, hopefully I can steal some stuff from him. :D
Zinjil
Profile Joined February 2011
United States166 Posts
May 02 2011 17:55 GMT
#51
On May 03 2011 02:27 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 01:56 CampinSam wrote:
Is this going to be a special segment or something? or have I missed previous editions.

Seems to be a great player though, and looks like he has the potential to play all the races at a high level, which is a extraordinary trait.

If only foreignors could watch korean streams and such.

It says #1, as in the first edition. Also, Koreans don't stream nearly as much, if at all afaik.

And HayPro is from Iraq O.o?


Haypro is swedish.
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 17:59:28
May 02 2011 17:57 GMT
#52
On May 03 2011 01:51 b_unnies wrote:
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Banner by disciple.


Q. You mentioned you were far from becoming pros in BW. What do you think is the biggest difference between being a SC1 and SC2 progamer.
It's too difficult and challenging to become a pro in BW because all the teams are run by big companies so it's more closed. In SC2, because the ladder system shows rankings it promotes people to challenge themselves more and makes it a bit easier to become well known.



Because of big company/closed system? Yeah right, we all know the true answer is: Others were better than me.
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
May 02 2011 18:01 GMT
#53
On May 03 2011 01:59 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
very nice interview


Hahaha indeed
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Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
May 02 2011 18:03 GMT
#54
On May 03 2011 02:57 mmdmmd wrote:
Because of big company/closed system? Yeah right, we all know the true answer is: Others were better than me.

I think he has a point, it's easier to get your name out there with the bnet ladder that everyone is playing on.
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
yann
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
119 Posts
May 02 2011 18:06 GMT
#55
I have seen the stream and I am a huge FAN! GOGO Dongraegu! Such a talent!
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Ganjamaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Argentina475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 18:10:07
May 02 2011 18:07 GMT
#56
Awesome interview, you should do more of these. I feel the questions in this interview are significantly betters than others I have read which focus on irrelevant stuff such as BM, rage etc.

Keep it up

EDIT: What happened to Xeph´s stream, it used to show a lot of DongRaeGu´s awesome games!
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happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
May 02 2011 18:17 GMT
#57
It's really interesting, I feel like a lot of Koreans acknowledge Huk as one of the top 3 foreigners if not the best foreigner ... is it just a lot of nerves that prevent him from showing as good results as say Jinro in tourney play?
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
May 02 2011 18:21 GMT
#58
Very interesting that he picked Huk out as the best foreign player. Maybe there really is something to all the Huk fans that cry about him being way better on the ladder?

Just something to think about..
For Aiur???
unbaal
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden44 Posts
May 02 2011 18:28 GMT
#59
This is one of the better things i've seen on TL, since we only can take part of such a small slice of Korean progaming(GomTV).

Thx alot TL!
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Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
May 02 2011 18:28 GMT
#60
Thanks for the interview! I like the fact that he's quite open in his answers and not afraid to throw out some criticism either!

Only statement that seems kind of absurd is

Q. You mentioned you were far from becoming pros in BW. What do you think is the biggest difference between being a SC1 and SC2 progamer.
It's too difficult and challenging to become a pro in BW because all the teams are run by big companies so it's more closed. In SC2, because the ladder system shows rankings it promotes people to challenge themselves more and makes it a bit easier to become well known.

Amateur BW players in Korea have Courage as a direct way to display their talents, it might be too difficult and challenging to compete with everyone else trying though..

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Grezzz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom78 Posts
May 02 2011 18:33 GMT
#61
I remember when Xeph was advertising showing DongRaeGu on stream, but unfortunately I missed it

Hopefully we'll see him in GSL soon, we need more good Zergies to watch.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 18:56:12
May 02 2011 18:55 GMT
#62
On May 03 2011 03:21 Fighter wrote:
Very interesting that he picked Huk out as the best foreign player. Maybe there really is something to all the Huk fans that cry about him being way better on the ladder?

Just something to think about..

Not really surprising as Huk ladders by far more than the other foreigners and DongRae is a ladder grinder himself. Plus PvZ
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
May 02 2011 19:03 GMT
#63
On May 03 2011 02:57 mmdmmd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 01:51 b_unnies wrote:
[image loading]

Banner by disciple.


Q. You mentioned you were far from becoming pros in BW. What do you think is the biggest difference between being a SC1 and SC2 progamer.
It's too difficult and challenging to become a pro in BW because all the teams are run by big companies so it's more closed. In SC2, because the ladder system shows rankings it promotes people to challenge themselves more and makes it a bit easier to become well known.



Because of big company/closed system? Yeah right, we all know the true answer is: Others were better than me.


Those are not necessarily mutually exclusive you know.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
May 02 2011 19:03 GMT
#64
DongRaeGu will show what's up in GSTL, along with DreamMvP, GalaxyMvP and SniperMvP.
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Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
May 02 2011 19:05 GMT
#65
Good interview this is going to be awsome reading these every once and a while.
price
Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
May 02 2011 19:18 GMT
#66
cool interview. i had never heard of this guy. anyone here played him on ladder and have any comments?
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Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
May 02 2011 19:32 GMT
#67
Great interview. I completely agree, ladder maps favorise heavily Terrans, that's why they are at the top.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
May 02 2011 19:34 GMT
#68
On May 03 2011 04:32 Samhax wrote:
Great interview. I completely agree, ladder maps favorise heavily Terrans, that's why they are at the top.

Another often overlooked factor is that TvT is the least volatile mirror matchup, which makes a rather big difference in winrates
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
May 02 2011 19:36 GMT
#69
Good read! I liked the interview, nice to read something from the up and coming korean players.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 02 2011 19:40 GMT
#70
Cool interview! gj
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Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
May 02 2011 19:40 GMT
#71
On May 03 2011 04:34 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 04:32 Samhax wrote:
Great interview. I completely agree, ladder maps favorise heavily Terrans, that's why they are at the top.

Another often overlooked factor is that TvT is the least volatile mirror matchup, which makes a rather big difference in winrates


That's also true
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
May 02 2011 19:41 GMT
#72
On May 03 2011 04:03 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 02:57 mmdmmd wrote:
On May 03 2011 01:51 b_unnies wrote:
[image loading]

Banner by disciple.


Q. You mentioned you were far from becoming pros in BW. What do you think is the biggest difference between being a SC1 and SC2 progamer.
It's too difficult and challenging to become a pro in BW because all the teams are run by big companies so it's more closed. In SC2, because the ladder system shows rankings it promotes people to challenge themselves more and makes it a bit easier to become well known.



Because of big company/closed system? Yeah right, we all know the true answer is: Others were better than me.


Those are not necessarily mutually exclusive you know.


But it's backed by many years of proof that it WORKS. If you got the dedication and skill, you will succeed as many does every day.

Yet here we have someone who blamed it all on "the system".
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
May 02 2011 19:44 GMT
#73
On May 03 2011 04:41 mmdmmd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 04:03 nam nam wrote:
On May 03 2011 02:57 mmdmmd wrote:
On May 03 2011 01:51 b_unnies wrote:
[image loading]

Banner by disciple.


Q. You mentioned you were far from becoming pros in BW. What do you think is the biggest difference between being a SC1 and SC2 progamer.
It's too difficult and challenging to become a pro in BW because all the teams are run by big companies so it's more closed. In SC2, because the ladder system shows rankings it promotes people to challenge themselves more and makes it a bit easier to become well known.



Because of big company/closed system? Yeah right, we all know the true answer is: Others were better than me.


Those are not necessarily mutually exclusive you know.


But it's backed by many years of proof that it WORKS. If you got the dedication and skill, you will succeed as many does every day.

Yet here we have someone who blamed it all on "the system".


Re-read the answer; it seemed to me more like he was stating that the system for becoming a pro in BW (Courage) was far more discouraging, and so he never put in enough effort (nor considered it a real possibility) to become a pro. Whereas in SC2 the ladder system motivated him to try to become a top-ranking player.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 02 2011 19:50 GMT
#74
On May 03 2011 03:55 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 03:21 Fighter wrote:
Very interesting that he picked Huk out as the best foreign player. Maybe there really is something to all the Huk fans that cry about him being way better on the ladder?

Just something to think about..

Not really surprising as Huk ladders by far more than the other foreigners and DongRae is a ladder grinder himself. Plus PvZ


Do go on...
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Clamev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany498 Posts
May 02 2011 19:52 GMT
#75
Thank you
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TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
May 02 2011 19:55 GMT
#76
Great interview and overall really nice thread! Adding replay is also really cool idea imo heh. Going to watch it for sure
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 20:16:52
May 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#77
On May 03 2011 02:43 Tristy wrote:
Would like to know if this guy was inspired by spanishiwa for his opener, or if its a pure coincidence that the first 12minutes is played within 90% accuracy of spanishiwas ice fisher build.


It's more likely that he just wanted to saturate both mineral lines before going gas. Especially after defending the Terran pressure, this is simply the best, though not most intuitive, decision.
VTFlow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States84 Posts
May 02 2011 20:29 GMT
#78
completely agree / laughed at the reaction to ladder maps
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 02 2011 20:33 GMT
#79
Great interview, thanks!

Man, if Huk could just get over his stage nerves he'd be a boss for sure!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
May 02 2011 20:35 GMT
#80
Very interesting. I am willing to see more of this kid.

I was shocked he consider Huk the better foreign over Dimaga and Jinro.

Another interesting thing is he consider SC2 is growing fast in Korea and expects future leagues, contrary to the common knowledge that SC2 is not growing at all in Korea or is stagnant.

Thanks for the translation.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 02 2011 20:36 GMT
#81
On May 03 2011 03:28 Armathai wrote:
Thanks for the interview! I like the fact that he's quite open in his answers and not afraid to throw out some criticism either!

Only statement that seems kind of absurd is
Show nested quote +

Q. You mentioned you were far from becoming pros in BW. What do you think is the biggest difference between being a SC1 and SC2 progamer.
It's too difficult and challenging to become a pro in BW because all the teams are run by big companies so it's more closed. In SC2, because the ladder system shows rankings it promotes people to challenge themselves more and makes it a bit easier to become well known.

Amateur BW players in Korea have Courage as a direct way to display their talents, it might be too difficult and challenging to compete with everyone else trying though..



Courage was a lot about luck too, besides skill. If your search Teamliquid you can find Legs thoughts on Courage.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
May 02 2011 20:38 GMT
#82
On May 03 2011 02:24 ExquisiteRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 02:06 dc302 wrote:
He says roaches and hydras are 'shit' together? I need an explanation x_x



Ever seen roach hydra against a protoss death ball =P. Thats the reason why the zerg metagame has shifted more towards roaches, infestors and baneling drops.

The word you're looking for is "standard strategy". "... the standard zerg strategy has shifted...".

Metagame does not mean "standard strategy".
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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
May 02 2011 20:41 GMT
#83
It would be interesting to see a TL open on the KR server in the future, or some other large open tournament.
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CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
May 02 2011 20:48 GMT
#84
Great interview with a great player, thank you very much. I remember watching him on Xepth's stream and it was really inspiring. I hope he can make it into the next GSL but i guess it gets tougher each time.
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zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
May 02 2011 20:48 GMT
#85
On May 03 2011 05:35 Juaks wrote:

I was shocked he consider Huk the better foreign over Dimaga and Jinro.

Another interesting thing is he consider SC2 is growing fast in Korea and expects future leagues, contrary to the common knowledge that SC2 is not growing at all in Korea or is stagnant.


Yeah, Huk better than Dimaga? Uuuh, idk about that...then again I'm not sure how much he's seen from the foreign scene, if Jinro/Dimaga/Huk is all he's seen, then it's quite possible he thinks that Huk's the best just cause Huk ladders a LOT.

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ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 20:52:18
May 02 2011 20:50 GMT
#86
On May 03 2011 05:38 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 02:24 ExquisiteRed wrote:
On May 03 2011 02:06 dc302 wrote:
He says roaches and hydras are 'shit' together? I need an explanation x_x



Ever seen roach hydra against a protoss death ball =P. Thats the reason why the zerg metagame has shifted more towards roaches, infestors and baneling drops.

The word you're looking for is "standard strategy". "... the standard zerg strategy has shifted...".

Metagame does not mean "standard strategy".


I was inclined to disagree with you, however, for what he's trying to say meta gaming is indeed the wrong term. "Using out-of-game information, or resources, to affect one's in-game decisions." definitely doesn't apply here.

However I would argue that the metagame is shifting away from roach hydra

On May 03 2011 05:48 zz_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 05:35 Juaks wrote:

I was shocked he consider Huk the better foreign over Dimaga and Jinro.

Another interesting thing is he consider SC2 is growing fast in Korea and expects future leagues, contrary to the common knowledge that SC2 is not growing at all in Korea or is stagnant.


Yeah, Huk better than Dimaga? Uuuh, idk about that...then again I'm not sure how much he's seen from the foreign scene, if Jinro/Dimaga/Huk is all he's seen, then it's quite possible he thinks that Huk's the best just cause Huk ladders a LOT.



I think HuK is suffering a lot from stage fright, a problem DIMAGA doesn't seem to have at all. Just look at his personality. The guy is built like a tank in every facet of his existence.
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Guthix
Profile Joined April 2011
United States209 Posts
May 02 2011 20:50 GMT
#87
DongrAeuGu is a complete beast. I saw him on Xeph's stream a couple months ago and his multitasking is insane.
Naniwa fighting!
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
May 02 2011 20:52 GMT
#88
very nice
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Klaent
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden374 Posts
May 02 2011 20:54 GMT
#89
"His most notable achievements was when he was the first player to reach 4000 ladder points"
You should add "on KR" to that sentence. Naniwa was world first 4k points.

Nice interview tho, hope to see more of these.
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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#90
On May 03 2011 05:54 Klaent wrote:
"His most notable achievements was when he was the first player to reach 4000 ladder points"
You should add "on KR" to that sentence. Naniwa was world first 4k points.

Nice interview tho, hope to see more of these.

First on kr ladder means more.
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TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
May 02 2011 21:00 GMT
#91
Great interview! Thanks for posting this up i hope we can see more of these up in the future ^^ I'm all about reading up on the different players!
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originalpredator
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
May 02 2011 21:07 GMT
#92
this guy is such a freak of nature, wait till you see him play
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 02 2011 21:08 GMT
#93
First in ladder but failing to get into GSL ... I can draw my own conclusions.

Thanks for the time and effort, it was a great read still. Will be watching out for him next qualifiers.
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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
May 02 2011 21:18 GMT
#94
On May 03 2011 05:50 Lumbridge wrote:
DongrAeuGu is a complete beast. I saw him on Xeph's stream a couple months ago and his multitasking is insane.


Yeah it was impressive, I think he got a lot of potencial.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
May 02 2011 21:38 GMT
#95
I love this guy's playstyle. He was my favourite Zerg until Losira re-appeared in Code A March. Great multi-tasking, scouting and decision making, and very 'non-dogmatic', as in he doesn't seem to rule anything out at any point in the game. It's a pity he didn't see Xeph's thread on TL where everyone was raving about him.

So are team MVP in the GSTL this time? It would be great to see him play in it.
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 02 2011 21:47 GMT
#96
Great Thread. I would love to see this continued in the future. It is interesting to hear from Korean Pro Gamers, and in my opinion especially ones that are not in the GSL. We can hear about the GSL players anywhere but you are the only one I know of talking to the non GSL players ^^.

I had never heard of this guy until your interview and it is nice to hear about him and Genius's friendship and why he chose Zerg lol. Having watched his replay I would love too see him compete in the GSL. His play was very impressive ( to say the least).

Thanks again for doing this!
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
May 02 2011 22:25 GMT
#97
Best interview posted in a while ..the questions remains: where is Xeph?
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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
May 02 2011 22:31 GMT
#98
On May 03 2011 05:50 Lumbridge wrote:
DongrAeuGu is a complete beast. I saw him on Xeph's stream a couple months ago and his multitasking is insane.

Hmm - I must see him play some time.
Thanks for the interview, 'twas a nice read.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 02 2011 22:41 GMT
#99
Very nice interview!

I think that HuK is the best foreigner in starcraft 2.


Pretty cool he has some knowledge of the foreign players in Korea

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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 02 2011 22:46 GMT
#100
Very nice interview!
I think that HuK is the best foreigner in starcraft 2.

Pretty cool he has some knowledge of the foreign players in Korea

On May 03 2011 05:38 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 02:24 ExquisiteRed wrote:
On May 03 2011 02:06 dc302 wrote:
He says roaches and hydras are 'shit' together? I need an explanation x_x



Ever seen roach hydra against a protoss death ball =P. Thats the reason why the zerg metagame has shifted more towards roaches, infestors and baneling drops.

The word you're looking for is "standard strategy". "... the standard zerg strategy has shifted...".

Metagame does not mean "standard strategy".

Hey man you should check out this thread pretty well written :p
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=130447
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Duoma
Profile Joined March 2011
United States396 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 22:59:11
May 02 2011 22:59 GMT
#101
Awesome interview

Thanks for posting. Hopefully in the coming weeks/months we will see more new blood in the GSL. Seems to me that the quality of players is increasing every season with few exceptions, though I do miss bitbybit =(
"I have stared a horse in the eyes.... there is only black... only darkness..."
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
May 02 2011 23:21 GMT
#102
I hope he qualifies for the next GSL. I love watching good multitasking players.
DARKHYDRA
Profile Joined September 2006
United States303 Posts
May 02 2011 23:55 GMT
#103
Been hearing about this guy for a while, kinda hyped to watch these replays!
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
May 03 2011 01:32 GMT
#104
Nice interview and OMG awesome replay thanks a lot for that! Great game.

Now I know how to beat terran: ridiculous multitasking and perfect drop/strategy anticipation XD
Try another route paperboy.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 03 2011 01:49 GMT
#105
Great interview. I have been wondering about this guy since the qualifier for this seasons GSL. Love the drawing in the banner as well.
LiangHao
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
May 03 2011 02:10 GMT
#106
thanks for the interview. I heard some about this guy, I want to see him play in the gstl. and huk is very good on ladder so thats probably why he has that opinion.
Gonff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States686 Posts
May 03 2011 03:22 GMT
#107
This is awesome. Great interview, and a great way to get a slightly more complete picture of the Korean scene. Keep up the good work!
FILM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States663 Posts
May 03 2011 03:27 GMT
#108
Excellent write up! Rare insight few get to see.
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omegan
Profile Joined April 2011
76 Posts
May 03 2011 03:27 GMT
#109
On May 03 2011 05:35 Juaks wrote:
Very interesting. I am willing to see more of this kid.

I was shocked he consider Huk the better foreign over Dimaga and Jinro.

Another interesting thing is he consider SC2 is growing fast in Korea and expects future leagues, contrary to the common knowledge that SC2 is not growing at all in Korea or is stagnant.

Thanks for the translation.


common belief is that SC2 is not big in Korea compared to foreign scene; and not as big as Brood War.
omegan
Profile Joined April 2011
76 Posts
May 03 2011 03:32 GMT
#110
On May 03 2011 05:54 Klaent wrote:
"His most notable achievements was when he was the first player to reach 4000 ladder points"
You should add "on KR" to that sentence. Naniwa was world first 4k points.

Nice interview tho, hope to see more of these.


you can't put world servers together. so, Naniwa's 4k is not world at all. it's just Europe. KR is the ultimate server.
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
May 03 2011 03:41 GMT
#111
Great job and great interview, hope to see more soon.
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meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
May 03 2011 03:42 GMT
#112
Oooo such strong words about the hydra, sadly it is true. Infestors really outshine them now.
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MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
May 03 2011 03:46 GMT
#113
Everyone here at TL.net loves you DRG, hopefully you get into code A to show off your true talent ^^
runforyourllife
Profile Joined September 2010
United States73 Posts
May 03 2011 03:53 GMT
#114
thnx for the translation
and a message to dongraegu
You are awesome! and your stream was my favorite of all the streams ive seen, and i've watched alot. best of luck to you in gsl and ur sc2!
light3
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia219 Posts
May 03 2011 03:55 GMT
#115
DON RAGE GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
May 03 2011 04:09 GMT
#116
This guy is hilarious, I love the interview. Thanks so much!
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Stark1
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada120 Posts
May 03 2011 04:38 GMT
#117
If he thinks HuK is the best foreigner, he'll be in for quite a rude awakening.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
May 03 2011 05:16 GMT
#118
On May 03 2011 02:55 Zinjil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 02:27 mikyaJ wrote:
On May 03 2011 01:56 CampinSam wrote:
Is this going to be a special segment or something? or have I missed previous editions.

Seems to be a great player though, and looks like he has the potential to play all the races at a high level, which is a extraordinary trait.

If only foreignors could watch korean streams and such.

It says #1, as in the first edition. Also, Koreans don't stream nearly as much, if at all afaik.

And HayPro is from Iraq O.o?


Haypro is swedish.

I know that, I'm talking about his location on his TL profile which is Iraq, as he posted on the first page.
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supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
May 03 2011 05:28 GMT
#119
I just saw his replay, pretty cool. Now I noticed a lot of Korean pro-gamers seem to like 55v66v77v injecting over Backspace method. Is that a brood war thing or is indiv. injecting better/risking the queens walking around.
Turn it Up
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
May 03 2011 05:43 GMT
#120
On May 03 2011 14:28 supdubdup wrote:
I just saw his replay, pretty cool. Now I noticed a lot of Korean pro-gamers seem to like 55v66v77v injecting over Backspace method. Is that a brood war thing or is indiv. injecting better/risking the queens walking around.


Well it's definitely not a bw thing considering queens weren't in broodwar (ok there was a unit with the same name but nothing like it).

From personal experience, the reason I prefer 55v66v77v is because the queens can be used to access ur hatches. e.g. you need to move your view to the main: simply hit 55.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 05:49:25
May 03 2011 05:46 GMT
#121
On May 03 2011 01:56 CampinSam wrote:
Is this going to be a special segment or something? or have I missed previous editions.


This is only the first interview. I intend on doing a lot more interviews and I'm also working on multiple interviews at the same time right now



DongRaeGu's english is surprisingly pretty decent. He's checking this thread quite periodically so he is definitely reading the comments on this thread.
NeuroNiky
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy38 Posts
May 03 2011 05:50 GMT
#122
Thanks for the great interview! Nice to get to know more awesome players we would have missed instead! Now, we want a ladder stream up!
White Ra makes me wanna play Protoss...
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
May 03 2011 05:57 GMT
#123
Hey HuK, you have a fan!
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
May 03 2011 05:57 GMT
#124
Very cool feature! Thanks!!
aka Moletrap
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
May 03 2011 05:57 GMT
#125
DRG's stream made a fan out of me <3 I'm expecting big things when he gets into Code A. With all the pro team practice he's getting now I think that'll be soon.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
JohnnyYen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States313 Posts
May 03 2011 06:11 GMT
#126
Loved it when Xeph was streaming DRG's games. It seemed like any time you could tune in for some high level Zerg play. Thanks for the interview! Cool graphics by disciple as well.
Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
May 03 2011 08:26 GMT
#127
Yeah, love this guy, already one of my 2 favorite players to watch after just tuning in to Xeph's stream. Keep up the good work!
"Taste the zombie's drug, now you want more."
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
May 03 2011 10:49 GMT
#128
I read a lot of positive feedback about his stream but unfortunately never seen it before. I liked the replay though, hopefully he might consider compiling a little replay pack for us :D
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
May 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#129
that guys multitasking is so beastly :3
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Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
May 03 2011 11:54 GMT
#130
DRG is a total boss. It's a shame that he didn't qualify, I really wish the Korean SC2 scene would finally take off so that we got to see more of these players more often. Come on Korea, host some online tournaments for these guys and stream it to foreigners, you'd rake it in!
DumEN
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden123 Posts
May 03 2011 13:11 GMT
#131
Wow what a quality post, thanks!
headbus
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada173 Posts
May 03 2011 17:12 GMT
#132
he 6pooled huk on huk's stream. Pretty sure it was because of delta quandrant though.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
May 03 2011 18:02 GMT
#133
Thanks!! I think it would be fun to be in huk's shoes, laddering with all the big names!!

Hydralisks are useless and eat up money..


I love hydras.. wish they could be used as a backbone!!

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 18:09:59
May 03 2011 18:08 GMT
#134
Nevermind, only 1 replay, which is a shame.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
May 03 2011 20:52 GMT
#135
watched the replay, pretty sick game.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Dubpace
Profile Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
May 03 2011 22:43 GMT
#136
On May 03 2011 19:49 magha wrote:
I read a lot of positive feedback about his stream but unfortunately never seen it before. I liked the replay though, hopefully he might consider compiling a little replay pack for us :D


This a million times...a replay pack would be awesome!
UnceL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland73 Posts
May 04 2011 03:51 GMT
#137
awesome work Forge! cool stuff!

TickTockBoom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada185 Posts
May 04 2011 03:52 GMT
#138
Very nice interview, hoping to see him getting involved in the scene.
IGN: Cupine Char: 945, Sometimes we have to let BW go, and proceed on.
fireproofazn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States231 Posts
May 04 2011 09:03 GMT
#139
very nice quality interview. Hope to see many more
Terran<Protoss<Zerg
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
May 04 2011 09:15 GMT
#140
I've heard of DRG but never seen him play. Hopefully he makes it through to code A because the scene needs more powerful up and coming zergs.
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
May 04 2011 12:35 GMT
#141
I like his play. Nice interview!
Jazzi!
fatkid
Profile Joined August 2010
United States62 Posts
May 04 2011 12:36 GMT
#142
I remember seeing him play on Xeph's stream. Very fun to watch, fast player like Sen.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
May 05 2011 02:42 GMT
#143
Since watching Xeph's stream with DRG, ive been working on switching to hotkeying hatches instead of queens. (which took me quite some time to get use too since its actually 1 more click per)

Though one thing i noticed about DRG, he would spam toggling between his first and second hatches not only could he see when the next inject was coming, but also how closely synced they are.

Never have i seen a player so good about not missing an injecting period.
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BaekHo
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)153 Posts
May 06 2011 03:42 GMT
#144
ProS hwaiting! - BaekHoProS
ddk
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom38 Posts
May 08 2011 20:53 GMT
#145
This guy was the main reason I watched Xephs stream in all honesty, his skill blew me away! I look very forward to seeing him in GSL in the future, he definitely has what it takes to get to Code-S. Keep it up DRG!
ym
aquanda
Profile Joined January 2003
United States477 Posts
May 08 2011 21:01 GMT
#146
I wish DRG would continue to stream! It was fantastic watching him play.
hi_0
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada249 Posts
May 17 2011 11:45 GMT
#147
I'm confused, I thought Naniwa was the first player to reach 4000 points on the ladder
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
May 17 2011 11:46 GMT
#148
He was the first on the korean server to do so.

Btw he is playing right now at GSTL vs MKP !!!
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:54:41
May 17 2011 11:52 GMT
#149
EDIT: Oops, wrong thread :S
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
hippocritical
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia465 Posts
May 17 2011 12:08 GMT
#150
DRG Clutch!
Hollis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States505 Posts
May 17 2011 12:22 GMT
#151
Thumbs up if you're here from the GSTL game!

Oh wait this isn't Youtube. DRG ftw!
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 15:11:55
May 17 2011 15:11 GMT
#152
Good interview, not your typical boring Korean.

HuK best foreigner! Pwn GSL for us HuK!

Crazy Canuck Toss HWAITING!
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
May 17 2011 21:36 GMT
#153
this guy is insanely good outclassed MKP by far and not in Code S what a shame for the games.. T_T
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
May 18 2011 08:56 GMT
#154
What a way to make an impact in your first televised game.. really happy for him
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
epik151
Profile Joined February 2008
312 Posts
May 18 2011 14:48 GMT
#155
Good call.

20 bucks DRG all-kills slayers in the finals.
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 14:54:37
May 18 2011 14:53 GMT
#156
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.
Mitchlew
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia428 Posts
May 18 2011 14:56 GMT
#157
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 18 2011 15:02 GMT
#158
On May 18 2011 23:56 Mitchlew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.

Wich is still an all in and not cheece so i don't see what was wrong with that statement.
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
May 18 2011 15:02 GMT
#159
On May 18 2011 23:56 Mitchlew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.


Yea, he only get 18 drones. But this roach lings attack is indeed a perfect timing for Protoss. This is not an all-in. If you want to defend this, no way protoss will have 30 probes like MC. U have to turn your probes and stargate into warpgate and more stalkers+sentries.

Even many pros thought this roach/lings strategy is all-in like Morrow, but actually it is not.
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
May 18 2011 15:04 GMT
#160
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220369

Q. Recently in ZvP, Zergs have been using a 2 base 8 Roach and mass Zerglings build vs 3 gate Sentry expand, what do you think about this strategy?
After Alicia's loss vs IMLosira (Alicia and Min are in the same team) we had a team meeting concerning this build order. We concluded that it's a great anti-3Gate expand build. However there are several Protoss build orders that counter this push like fast Voids or DTs because Zergs are spending the gas on the 8 Roaches, the Lair tech is delayed and stalkers prevents Zerg scouting. Also if Protoss goes stalkers to pressure the lings before speed is completed, it gives them map control. Although it has its own weaknesses, it is a good build but not an all-in. For example this build isn't meant to kill the Protoss outright, not even to destroy the nexus. Alicia's opinion is that he made the mistake of having his zealots+sentry too far away from his expansion.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
May 18 2011 15:04 GMT
#161
On May 18 2011 23:56 Mitchlew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.


roach/ling isn't an all-in build. Min stated this himself when I interviewed him
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#162
On May 19 2011 00:04 b_unnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 23:56 Mitchlew wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.


roach/ling isn't an all-in build. Min stated this himself when I interviewed him

Losira had waaaay more drones than DRG, Losiras wasn't all in. DRG most defiantly was.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
May 18 2011 15:19 GMT
#163
"Delta Quadrant sucks." 100% agreed. And hydras again...

Btw very good player, he was outstanding today in GSTL.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
May 18 2011 15:29 GMT
#164
On May 19 2011 00:18 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:04 b_unnies wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:56 Mitchlew wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.


roach/ling isn't an all-in build. Min stated this himself when I interviewed him

Losira had waaaay more drones than DRG, Losiras wasn't all in. DRG most defiantly was.


And what is the exact drone count to qualify it as an all in? 20? 25? 30? face it. it wasn't an all in. yes he is behind if the attack fails, but that is the same as every other attack in the game that doesnt do damage.

2 base tank marine attack vs zerg
blink stalker attack vs zerg
cloak banshee vs everyone
dt rush vs everyone
quest_5692
Profile Joined November 2010
Malaysia57 Posts
May 18 2011 22:45 GMT
#165
so whats its an all in. he sees protoss fast expand, he know if he dont punish the insanely weak protoss now, he will have a harder time later in the game. so what? FKING KILL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

like his counter smash booth.
too much hype on foreigner fan favorite....accept the fact koreans are OP...
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
May 18 2011 22:53 GMT
#166
On May 19 2011 00:29 stangstang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:18 Eppa! wrote:
On May 19 2011 00:04 b_unnies wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:56 Mitchlew wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.


roach/ling isn't an all-in build. Min stated this himself when I interviewed him

Losira had waaaay more drones than DRG, Losiras wasn't all in. DRG most defiantly was.


And what is the exact drone count to qualify it as an all in? 20? 25? 30? face it. it wasn't an all in. yes he is behind if the attack fails, but that is the same as every other attack in the game that doesnt do damage.

2 base tank marine attack vs zerg
blink stalker attack vs zerg
cloak banshee vs everyone
dt rush vs everyone

pretty much,
building ANY army units = cutting (some->all, whatever) drones.
larvae~...
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 22:53:59
May 18 2011 22:53 GMT
#167
The thing is, allin is very hard to define for zerg, as as long as they have 2 hatchs 2 queens they're able to pump more or less 20 drones a minute.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 18 2011 23:00 GMT
#168
On May 19 2011 00:29 stangstang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:18 Eppa! wrote:
On May 19 2011 00:04 b_unnies wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:56 Mitchlew wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.


roach/ling isn't an all-in build. Min stated this himself when I interviewed him

Losira had waaaay more drones than DRG, Losiras wasn't all in. DRG most defiantly was.


And what is the exact drone count to qualify it as an all in? 20? 25? 30? face it. it wasn't an all in. yes he is behind if the attack fails, but that is the same as every other attack in the game that doesnt do damage.

2 base tank marine attack vs zerg
blink stalker attack vs zerg
cloak banshee vs everyone
dt rush vs everyone


I have grown completely sick of every single attack (yes that's a bit of an exaggeration) being called all in... it's a cancerous phrase on this site. Apparently if you make some units instead of spamming workers the whole game until you get attacked... you are going all in, because (here is the logic that is almost always stated) if you attack and don't do damage to their economy you are behind...

Well... yeah... obviously, but that is such a stupid justification. Of course if you invest in attacking units and your attack is not successful in killing them or doing economic damage then you are behind. That's how the game works. You can't always decide to attack and always come out ahead, what would be the point of not attacking sooner then? You also can't expect to have a poor attack, yet be even with your opponent in macro despite the losses (assuming everything before that difference was the same).

Sometimes a player needs to make a plan to attack if they see a weakness in their opponent... of course they need to make units to do that, and therefore be behind on workers... but that doesn't make it all in.
quentel
Profile Joined March 2011
349 Posts
May 18 2011 23:13 GMT
#169
Good thing this got bumped, since I missed it when it was new, probably because I had no knowledge of drg until the current GSTL. Good read.
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
May 19 2011 06:55 GMT
#170
I just saw the replay, the guy is sick good. And he is kind of crazy, i like it!

Shameless bump!
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
May 19 2011 07:06 GMT
#171
On May 19 2011 15:55 Samhax wrote:
I just saw the replay, the guy is sick good. And he is kind of crazy, i like it!

Shameless bump!

Yeah, you can't beat DreamMvP TvZ if you don't have a sick good ZvT. If you don't believe it, you can watch DreamMvP games from Gisado Clan #1. He plays for MvP clan btw. But I sincerely disagree that this is Dream's A game.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
May 19 2011 07:08 GMT
#172
sorry if this is a dumb question but where does dongraegu stream?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
May 19 2011 07:09 GMT
#173
Amazing player. need to gets into code a next season!
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
May 19 2011 07:17 GMT
#174
On May 19 2011 16:08 hunts wrote:
sorry if this is a dumb question but where does dongraegu stream?


Probably on a korean site if he does at all i would be suprised though/.
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Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
May 19 2011 07:27 GMT
#175
On May 19 2011 16:08 hunts wrote:
sorry if this is a dumb question but where does dongraegu stream?


Xeph is the the only way to see him play. A few months ago he streamed DRG's play for a few days. He will show up on Team Liquid as "Xeph's Progamer Stream". He showed some of StC's laddering before this as well. I always wondered how long it would take before DRG ended up on korean TV, and here he is tearing up the GSTL. He plays extremely fast if you have watched him play first person before, and makes some pretty awesome plays. Hope to see more of him in the future =)
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 19 2011 07:27 GMT
#176
On May 19 2011 16:17 GoKu` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 16:08 hunts wrote:
sorry if this is a dumb question but where does dongraegu stream?


Probably on a korean site if he does at all i would be suprised though/.

Check out his fanclub, I believe there's someone who mirrors his stream on JTV.
SMaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain137 Posts
May 19 2011 07:30 GMT
#177
On May 19 2011 16:08 hunts wrote:
sorry if this is a dumb question but where does dongraegu stream?

You could watch him playing in Xeph's stream (here in TL) which was a "mirror" of official Korean streams but it seems as if Xeph's disappeared and he isn't streaming anymore.

I could be wrong but I'd say that Korean players don't usually stream because other players can analyze their gameplay and find their weaknesses. Xeph had an agreement with some of them to stream some of their games outside Korea.

Maybe there is an official Korean stream where you can find him playing, idk.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
May 19 2011 07:36 GMT
#178
Awesome looking forward to see more of him. He looks so Damn beastly in gstl!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
May 19 2011 07:38 GMT
#179
On May 19 2011 00:29 stangstang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:18 Eppa! wrote:
On May 19 2011 00:04 b_unnies wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:56 Mitchlew wrote:
On May 18 2011 23:53 ehalf wrote:
Seriously? Outplay Marineking, Nada, Supernova, MC not by any cheese at all, and still struggle to get into Code A without success ... Damn, that's why no one wants to go to Korea.

Errr, you do realise when he was playing MC he stopped all drone production for roaches and lings? It was all in, if mc had held it off he would have been so far behind.


roach/ling isn't an all-in build. Min stated this himself when I interviewed him

Losira had waaaay more drones than DRG, Losiras wasn't all in. DRG most defiantly was.


And what is the exact drone count to qualify it as an all in? 20? 25? 30? face it. it wasn't an all in. yes he is behind if the attack fails, but that is the same as every other attack in the game that doesnt do damage.

2 base tank marine attack vs zerg
blink stalker attack vs zerg
cloak banshee vs everyone
dt rush vs everyone


Well Nestea/Losira cut drones at like 30~35 and expand as they attack. Taking a third while you're attacking is what really makes their attacks not all-in to my eyes.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
May 19 2011 07:43 GMT
#180
Thumbs up, I really liked this. Before reading the article Dongraegu was just another nameplate in GSTL but now I see him as a player instead of just another protoss.
Thank you for this article!


(Also its nice to see a top player interview that has some substance. Some interviews are so focused on being PR friendly that you could replace the interviewees name with anyone else that played their race and not notice)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
4of8
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany256 Posts
May 19 2011 08:00 GMT
#181

His most notable achievements was when he was the first player to reach 4000 ladder points.


4k points after masters was released or 4k points in korea? Because the first player with 4k points in general was Naniwa. Just curious.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 19 2011 08:33 GMT
#182
About Xeph, he posted on his stream thread that he will start streaming again soon©.
`dunedain
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 12:26:30
May 19 2011 12:24 GMT
#183
Many thanks for the interview! Love the series!!

Try and get an MMA interview in there too, that would be epic!

I watched DRG play on Xeph's stream but wasn't sure if he was the same guy, but realized he was after noticing his crazy creep spread.
New blood in the house.


(P.S. Whatever happened to Xeph btw???) - lol, didn't see the ^^ post..
"In order to be created, a work of art must first make use of the dark forces of the soul." ~Albert Camus
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
May 19 2011 12:27 GMT
#184
On May 19 2011 21:24 `dunedain wrote:
Many thanks for the interview! Love the series!!

Try and get an MMA interview in there too, that would be epic!

I watched DRG play on Xeph's stream but wasn't sure if he was the same guy, but realized he was after noticing his crazy creep spread.
New blood in the house.


(P.S. Whatever happened to Xeph btw???) - lol, didn't see the ^^ post..

Yes DRG on Xeph's stream *is* the DRG you are currently watching in GSTL.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
`dunedain
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
653 Posts
May 19 2011 12:28 GMT
#185
On May 19 2011 16:43 Probe1 wrote:
Thumbs up, I really liked this. Before reading the article Dongraegu was just another nameplate in GSTL but now I see him as a player instead of just another protoss.
Thank you for this article!


(Also its nice to see a top player interview that has some substance. Some interviews are so focused on being PR friendly that you could replace the interviewees name with anyone else that played their race and not notice)



Not meaning to bash, but did you even read the interview???
"In order to be created, a work of art must first make use of the dark forces of the soul." ~Albert Camus
nGMuii
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore98 Posts
May 19 2011 13:47 GMT
#186
amazing player
can't wait to see more of him in GSL
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6225 Posts
May 19 2011 14:21 GMT
#187
I gave this a cursory read-over when it first came up, being more interested in YongHwa since he plays my race. Now DRG is royalty, though, this suddenly became fascinating. Great work getting these up, they're excellent in-depth interviews. The replay packs are amazing as well.
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 19 2011 18:23 GMT
#188
Thank you for this interview, I really dig DRG's style
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 19 2011 21:43 GMT
#189
Jeez this guy is SOOOOOO good. Just wow.
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Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
May 20 2011 01:59 GMT
#190
He honestly might be the next Jeadong of Starcraft 2. His play and understanding is so unbelievable. gets so many drones so quickly. If he had Nesteas decision making he'd be almost unstoppable. can't wait to see how he progresses.
Tsavong
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada15 Posts
May 20 2011 02:24 GMT
#191
Just saw this guy playing in GSL team league. Pretty fuckin sick.
gotyilk
Profile Joined April 2011
United States34 Posts
May 23 2011 20:38 GMT
#192
I've turned into a huge fan. He played so solidly in the GSTL providing great anchor games against some of the best. He could have won against + Show Spoiler +
MMA
in the end with some slightly different decisions, but to play that tightly against some of the best is great. I look forward to seeing this guy excel to the next level when he gets his shot.

Just shows how grueling it is to be successful in GSL.
Walls
Profile Joined May 2011
United States172 Posts
May 23 2011 20:40 GMT
#193
Dongraegu became one of my favorite players so fast I cant even believe it... his got it all.
SlayerS_Eve's third fan, in the time of hatred... very very proud of that.
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 21:15:13
May 23 2011 21:14 GMT
#194
i spent the GSTL all like "who IS this guy". hope he gets into GSL soon.
he has the mark of other great players like MC... he makes his race look so overpowered....
(EDIT: that comment definitely was NOT intended to be about balance!)
There can be only none
verisonripped
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 21:25:12
June 18 2011 21:23 GMT
#195
What does Dongraegu mean? It certainly couldn't be a type of Ragu sauce with Sausages in it.

It's simply the name of a province/district in the Pusan area.

http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/동래구

It would be the equivalent of Harlem, a region within New York (the city)
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
June 19 2011 01:17 GMT
#196
this guy is amazing, i strongly recommend watching him in the LG 3d Special Tournament finals which was casted before the super tournament finals, wish we can see this guy in more tournaments !
For the swarm!
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 19 2011 01:20 GMT
#197
i love this guy even more now
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 01:26:40
June 19 2011 01:26 GMT
#198
If you want your dose of DRG, GOM gave his LG Cinema3D special League VODS for free :
http://www.gomtv.net/2011super1/vod/65568
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
June 19 2011 01:27 GMT
#199
On June 19 2011 10:26 MrCon wrote:
If you want your dose of DRG, GOM gave his LG Cinema3D special League VODS for free :


Thanks for that, was really hoping they would put those up for free
IMNotMvp
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)530 Posts
June 23 2011 21:02 GMT
#200
this guy...!
shiNe.
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada120 Posts
July 04 2011 18:37 GMT
#201
Omg my hero!!!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33299 Posts
March 02 2012 03:01 GMT
#202
relevant bump

Q. It seems like you and (P)Genius are great friends. What is your history with him and do you have a rivalry together?
Back in Brood war, a hyung (older "brother") introduced me to (P)Genius since we were both the same age and played the same race (Terran). We shared tons of builds, strategies, and replays together. I didn't have a rivalry with him in Brood War since we were both players far from becoming pros in BW.

In SC2 beta, I played Protoss. However I found out that (P)Genius was a famous Protoss user and I developed a "rivalry sense". I found it "dirty" to play as a Protoss because genius was also a Protoss so I switched to Zerg.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 02 2012 03:02 GMT
#203
all i think of when i think of these 2 are the gstl intros and the in between matches where they are actin all a fool on camera. these guys are awesome and i don't think they really care who takes the ship.
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 02 2012 03:03 GMT
#204
On March 02 2012 12:01 Waxangel wrote:
relevant bump
Show nested quote +

Q. It seems like you and (P)Genius are great friends. What is your history with him and do you have a rivalry together?
Back in Brood war, a hyung (older "brother") introduced me to (P)Genius since we were both the same age and played the same race (Terran). We shared tons of builds, strategies, and replays together. I didn't have a rivalry with him in Brood War since we were both players far from becoming pros in BW.

In SC2 beta, I played Protoss. However I found out that (P)Genius was a famous Protoss user and I developed a "rivalry sense". I found it "dirty" to play as a Protoss because genius was also a Protoss so I switched to Zerg.



Wow I'm so glad he switched!
DRG is a zerg god!
moo...for DRG
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 02 2012 03:05 GMT
#205
What ever happened to these message from korea threads? They were pretty awesome, I remember there were a few more other than this one. I think it could be a good way to bring some publicity to the lesser known up and coming koreans.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
March 02 2012 03:05 GMT
#206
haha the thought of them being in finals together always warms my heart.
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
March 02 2012 03:06 GMT
#207
HAHAHA thats also why I don't play toss, feels awful when you win because sometimes its just way to easy.
"HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out"
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
March 02 2012 03:07 GMT
#208
very nice interview indeed! thx~
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 03:10:05
March 02 2012 03:08 GMT
#209
On March 02 2012 12:01 Waxangel wrote:
relevant bump
Show nested quote +

Q. It seems like you and (P)Genius are great friends. What is your history with him and do you have a rivalry together?
Back in Brood war, a hyung (older "brother") introduced me to (P)Genius since we were both the same age and played the same race (Terran). We shared tons of builds, strategies, and replays together. I didn't have a rivalry with him in Brood War since we were both players far from becoming pros in BW.

In SC2 beta, I played Protoss. However I found out that (P)Genius was a famous Protoss user and I developed a "rivalry sense". I found it "dirty" to play as a Protoss because genius was also a Protoss so I switched to Zerg.


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Gonna cheer for Genius though

User was warned for this post
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 02 2012 03:09 GMT
#210
On March 02 2012 12:06 Antimatterz wrote:
HAHAHA thats also why I don't play toss, feels awful when you win because sometimes its just way to easy.


You might want to work on your reading comprehension skills.
Nairul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
March 02 2012 03:09 GMT
#211
Ah crap, I didn't check the date and thought this was a new thread. Read halfway through and saw the question "You weren't able to qualify in GSL Code A. What happened?" and I was like O_O what?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33299 Posts
March 02 2012 03:10 GMT
#212
On March 02 2012 12:05 hunts wrote:
What ever happened to these message from korea threads? They were pretty awesome, I remember there were a few more other than this one. I think it could be a good way to bring some publicity to the lesser known up and coming koreans.


b_unnies started college and has been really busy with studies, I think
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 03:30:42
March 02 2012 03:14 GMT
#213
I remember when DRG was first to 4k ladder points on KR server and no one knew who he was. Was a mysterious player that some people saw play on that dude's stream whose name escapes me now. I watched DRG's first person view on that stream and was impressed. Pretty cool to see how far he's come now.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
sleepyguy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States272 Posts
March 02 2012 03:15 GMT
#214
On March 02 2012 12:01 Waxangel wrote:
relevant bump
Show nested quote +

Q. It seems like you and (P)Genius are great friends. What is your history with him and do you have a rivalry together?
Back in Brood war, a hyung (older "brother") introduced me to (P)Genius since we were both the same age and played the same race (Terran). We shared tons of builds, strategies, and replays together. I didn't have a rivalry with him in Brood War since we were both players far from becoming pros in BW.

In SC2 beta, I played Protoss. However I found out that (P)Genius was a famous Protoss user and I developed a "rivalry sense". I found it "dirty" to play as a Protoss because genius was also a Protoss so I switched to Zerg.


I guess we have to thank Genius a little for this switch!
WE FOKKEN LOST BOYS
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12351 Posts
March 02 2012 03:18 GMT
#215
HuK is best foreigner!!
Great interview, really love to read more from these korean scenes
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
March 02 2012 03:23 GMT
#216
My how things have changed.
He's sure done a lot more than just gather 4,000 points since then, hasn't he?
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
March 02 2012 03:37 GMT
#217
This thread is even cooler now! Cool looking back.
MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States507 Posts
March 02 2012 05:02 GMT
#218
Good bump choice. I remember reading this a while back and being intrigued about his potential and now he's huge Code S star.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 02 2012 07:26 GMT
#219
Really cool thread. Its nice to look back on a player's carrier, to see how it all began, how he was perceived, his ambitions and to see how he evolved and to where he got. And DRG is such a likable person, I cheer a lot for him now a days and I wish him good luck in the GSL.

We need more threads like this so we can look back upon them in 2013.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
keeperton
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
March 02 2012 07:33 GMT
#220
On March 02 2012 16:26 Destructicon wrote:Its nice to look back on a player's carrier,


That time Genius made careers on Calm Before the Storm against ZeNEXLife was awesome.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 07:36:30
March 02 2012 07:35 GMT
#221
On May 03 2011 01:51 b_unnies wrote:
Q. How did you get into team MVP?
I got into MVP team by getting scouted by the manager (Yoon Sang, Choi). I first met with him during the March GSL qualifiers and while chatting with the manager, he asked me if I wanted to join and gave me some time to decide. After a week I decided to join MVP along with (P)Genius since the manager promised me good "treatment" and since the team was newly created, I thought I could be the team's ace.


Turns out the good "treatment" was actually a promise to cover University costs if progaming failed, lol.
Liquipedia"Expert"
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
March 02 2012 07:37 GMT
#222
Dude, what is this bump.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
March 02 2012 07:41 GMT
#223
i remember that time when watch DRG stream his game for the 1st time and show his ZvT to everyone
dam!!!
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 02 2012 07:54 GMT
#224
On March 02 2012 16:37 Bayyne wrote:
Dude, what is this bump.

Dude, what's with not reading the bump post before the asking the bump question?
dionjcejd
Profile Joined February 2012
Albania3 Posts
March 02 2012 11:47 GMT
#225
give the manager credit. one year later, he certainly got his money's worth with both players in gsl final
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