Patch 1.3.3 PTR - Page 9

On April 26 2011 11:48 Mommas Boy wrote:
somebody explain to me the spore crawler burrow time buff. what does this help exactly. i dont remember a situation that would benefit the zerg in.

On April 26 2011 11:46 Playguuu wrote:
Do the decreased times actually present protoss with the option not to go warp tech or is it still faster. That would have been the best solution, make gateways faster to produce units but have warp gate more versatile.

On April 26 2011 11:50 dtz wrote:
are you still able to do a normal wall in with pylon in the back and then gateway + cybercore. Or do you have to go back old school and use your pylon as part of the wall-in

On April 26 2011 11:51 Ricercar wrote:


you have to use a pylon now

On April 26 2011 11:45 Cloud9157 wrote:


Are you kidding me? 4 gate was a huge issue. PvP was a disgraceful matchup that revolved around 4 gate. A proper 4 gate would take down everything pretty much. A few things could stop it (3 gate robo with near-perfect control of units).

PvP basically became 4 gate vs 4 gate. It completely discouraged a mid game PvP, not even mentioning a late game PvP. Idk about you or other Protoss, but I became fed up with most of my matches ending within 10 minutes.

On April 26 2011 11:49 Reborn8u wrote:
I am curious why they lowered the pylon radius instead of just making pylons on low ground not able to warp units it on high ground. I'm thinking their change will make it hard to build (sim city) especially at some of the wide open naturals like xelnaga caverns and make sure you have multiple pylons powering things (like cannons vs muta). O well, time to zealot rush I guess ;O lol. Seriously, though this means no warp gate in time to stop roach all ins. That could be scary, especially since your pylons will have to be packed in closer to prevent a power down of your whole wall in.

Don't agree with the ghost change, emp is already strong, fast to tech to, and cheap on gas compared to psi storm. All they need is a ghost academy and all that requires is a barracks. Emp doesn't even require research, it shuts down casting, does 100 dmg (shield) and is can't be dodged once cast. Storm requires 150/100 twilight, 150/200 templar archive, 200/200 to research, it does 80 damage much of which can be dodged. So it's 650 gas to get 1 HT out with storm, but only 150 gas to get out 1 ghost with emp....? Also, Terrans get so many extra minerals from mules, and their core units (MM) are very cheap on gas. 3rax emp all ins could be devastating to protoss. Emp is so good vs sentries, stalkers, zealots, and immortals and that is the only composition your likely to have that early. Maybe voids but emp still is okay vs them too. O and your warp gates are going to be delayed some too? I'm thinking this change is to help terran vs infestor and broodlords where ghosts excel, but I see it having a huge impact on TvP.

Archons being massive is cool Wonder if you can only put 1 in a prism now? (not that it matters too much)

On April 26 2011 11:47 Eleaven wrote:



wut?

Show me a good terran with spare minerals? Pretty much every terran is floating a ton of gas mid game, since their core units are very gas light, and mineral heavy.
Mule doesn't give them spare minerals, it lets them keep up in production with races that use mins/gas in a more balanced manner

On April 26 2011 11:50 Bosu wrote:
Will the 7.5 to 6.5 range on pylons have much of an effect on building placement?

On April 26 2011 11:49 Daralii wrote:
The change to pylon radius seems... random? I'm overjoyed with the archon change though, about fucking time.