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Massive units are not affected by concussive shells. If you think they are, you are wrong. It's SPORE crawlers that are being changed, not SPINE. Please read carefully. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
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kvn4444
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
Back to the days of SC2:Beta we go! | ||
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
On April 28 2011 06:37 Dagon wrote: I am deffinetly not sure if it actually works, that's why I am testing it.. But the ability to insta-spawn a 130 food army anywhere on the map at once must not be underestimated..  Sixty-five gateways? Won't your opponent object when they start cluttering up his main? I know you have this cool vision of a massive, bespoke army just manifesting out of thin air, but just think for a minute about how you're getting there. Most Protoss max out with, what, six gateways or so? You're planning on spending another 9000 minerals getting to that same point - that's going to take a while to mine. However I look at it, it doesn't work. Obviously massing gateways as fast as possible doesn't work, because when you need your army you won't have any resources to make them with. So let's say that for every gateway you make, you bank 100 extra minerals. So when your opponent attacks and you have 10 gateways, you can make 10 gateway units instead of the 16-19 you could have had. If he waits till you have 20 gateways, you can make 20 gateway units instead of the 41 you could have had. If he waits long enough, you could have been maxed. If he waits until you can max, then a more normal gateway count would have meant you were already maxed with a ton of money in the bank for reinforcements. If he waits until you have maxed and have a ton of money in the bank along with your 65 gateways, then he's clearly slumped dead on his keyboard. No. Max normally, then start adding gateways and banking 100 minerals each. It's the fastest and safest way to get to where you want to be. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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Jonny55
United States22 Posts
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WhiteWolf_
United States39 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:17 Blasterion wrote: Why isn't there a infestor nerf in all of this... Because its really not op? Maybe you should learn to use emp.... | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:17 Blasterion wrote: Why isn't there a infestor nerf in all of this... Because they want you to learn to deal with it like all zergs have had to with a lot of things. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:19 WhiteWolf_ wrote: Because its really not op? Maybe you should learn to use emp.... lol emp only does 100 mana burn, you can make infestors faster than I can make ghosts, Ghosts can only EMP(casters) and , Infestors can fungal (everything) Neural(everything) IT(everything) I'll call it a day if they let us use snipe on buildings | ||
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thebole1
Serbia126 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:19 Jonny55 wrote: Really Blizzard ... not changing anything about colo/void ray or force field? I guess we still got a while of Protoss imba-ness. hahaha i agree that toss colloss need nerf 12dps +3vs light...and FF range need nerf....but this is only 1.3.3 its not 1.4... or something... i expetc in 1.4 colloss nerf infestor nerf sige tank buff in dps (I hope) 50/60 thor speed buff simply on big maps are to slow...(also maby) and i hope stim pack nerf...in speed and dps (simply too much) banglings speed nerf whould be great 2... i think all splash dps staf should look wery cerfull and (stim) and staf that do to much dps should be whatched for balancing game..this changis i would like to see... sry for my ENG... i forgoth to add that : zealots rush now will be too powerfull maby zealots should be 37sec also ? simply becous if you cronobust zealot now at 33sec he will made faster than marine...dont know best somebady who play ptr should speek abouth it ... | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:50 thebole1 wrote: hahaha i agree that toss colloss need nerf 12dps +3vs light...and FF range need nerf....but this is only 1.3.3 its not 1.4... or something... i expetc in 1.4 colloss nerf infestor nerf sige tank buff in dps (I hope) 50/60 thor speed buff simply on big maps are to slow...(also maby) and i hope stim pack nerf...in speed and dps (simply too much) banglings speed nerf whould be great 2... i think all splash dps staf should look wery cerfull and (stim) and staf that do to much dps should be whatched for balancing game..this changis i would like to see... sry for my ENG... WTF? Siege tank dps buff? Are you kidding me? Thor speed? Baneling speed nerf? *facepalm* | ||
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NeXiLe
Canada262 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14047 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:17 Blasterion wrote: Why isn't there a infestor nerf in all of this... cuz toss can fucking kill them with a single spell and they're the lowest Hp thing sence marines. | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:54 Ghostcom wrote: Can't this thread just die now? This is getting outrageously stupid... | ||
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thebole1
Serbia126 Posts
WTF? Siege tank dps buff? Are you kidding me? Thor speed? Baneling speed nerf? *facepalm* i am toss player...  i am not terran but simply sige tanks seems not cost efective vs toss...eaven if toss army is not spreed around...look at this video : also one more thing i noticed.... i whatched some T v Z and i noticed that zerg almoust made faster and ultralisc then terran replace his sige tanks after sufering defith... simply sige tanks dont do enaph dps... when you nyudus terran simply ultralisc devestate mecha unites when they are out of positione and sige tanks are so hard to replace... also i agree that stim pack simply do to much dps when is in game...but this is yust my opinion and we are all hire to shere i hope  sry for my ENG...i would like to add one more thing i noticed : mid game late game PvT simply terran cant (agenst High templars Ts and ball of Colloss ) play only with bio ball protoss destroy them after and i think the solution is to svich to mecha play... and only way is by buffing sige tanks in my opininon.. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14047 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:19 Jonny55 wrote: Really Blizzard ... not changing anything about colo/void ray or force field? I guess we still got a while of Protoss imba-ness. you just got the infestor buff why not fungle stakers and nural his colossi and kill him? | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On April 28 2011 07:50 thebole1 wrote: hahaha i agree that toss colloss need nerf 12dps +3vs light...and FF range need nerf....but this is only 1.3.3 its not 1.4... or something... i expetc in 1.4 colloss nerf infestor nerf sige tank buff in dps (I hope) 50/60 thor speed buff simply on big maps are to slow...(also maby) and i hope stim pack nerf...in speed and dps (simply too much) banglings speed nerf whould be great 2... i think all splash dps staf should look wery cerfull and (stim) and staf that do to much dps should be whatched for balancing game..this changis i would like to see... sry for my ENG... i forgoth to add that : zealots rush now will be too powerfull maby zealots should be 37sec also ? simply becous if you cronobust zealot now at 33sec he will made faster than marine...dont know best somebady who play ptr should speek abouth it ... Thank you, sir, you just made my morning. And more or less destroyed my faith in the human race. | ||
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Venedar
United Kingdom24 Posts
On April 28 2011 08:07 sermokala wrote: you just got the infestor buff why not fungle stakers and nural his colossi and kill him? The guy is terran not zerg, but infestors have made my day recently in ZvP, now to calm down 2hatch ling in zvz | ||
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J.E.G.
United States389 Posts
You basically have a more powerful, but delayed push as you can have an extra 3 stalkers before wg finishes. It obviously destroys any FE play and, as i mentioned, loses to Robo play. Haven't played many other non-retarded games on PTR to come to any other conclusions yet. i tried one 2gate vs zerg in close positions on Shattered Temple and i got owned by roaches. Granted, i am mid diamond on normal ladder and my opponent claimed to be top 8 masters, so not sure if this means anything. On another note, these midget pylons suck! I can still wall off my nat on Tal'Darim Altar with one pylon though | ||
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