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"Terran is the weakest race" - MVP, IM House Tour - Page 10

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Synk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States297 Posts
April 24 2011 05:15 GMT
#181
I think the really telling thing is the fact the IM coach is saying the game needs to be balanced better by Blizzard. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that in this thread yet.
Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 05:17:08
April 24 2011 05:16 GMT
#182
I loved the interview with the coach and the humility of MVP and NesTea.

Hwani made me LOL so hard at "IM would love to coach a mature, serious foreigner who would be able to practice a lot and get along with others. So Greg [IdrA] would be the last person they'd want!"

Thanks Artosis! Your dedication to eSports is unbelievable.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 24 2011 05:17 GMT
#183
On April 24 2011 14:14 Chainfire99 wrote:
It won't be Dignitas with two of their marquee players expressing the desire to stay in Europe as opposed to playing in Korea (Dimaga, Naniwa). Prolly FXO or EG imo.


Naniwa is playing in the Rakaka "Road to Korea" tournament, btw. As for whether or not he wants to stay there - who knows.
MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
April 24 2011 05:17 GMT
#184
On April 24 2011 13:57 SilverPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:56 SwirlQ wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:28 Djeez wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:21 soupchicken wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:18 infinity2k9 wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:04 SilverPotato wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:00 Mailing wrote:
Weakest? Hardly.

Maybe hardest to play, but even that is stretching it.

I'm sorry but it's not beta anymore...

Yeah T is much harder than zerg and especially toss.


How? Mechanically? Zerg is clearly harder mechanically, just the nature of the race and balancing drone/unit production.


I play Zerg... and even I think that Terran mechanics are the hardest to do perfectly. But then again I just might be just so used to Zerg that I don't realize how difficult it can be.


Agreed. Terran mechanics and micro is way harder than Zerg imo. I think that Zerg requires a better game sense/game knowledge/timings though.

And toss?

ez


read my mind. formula for success with toss

Good BO + Good FF = win

Don't forget the ability to move around an automatically formed death ball!


Yes, obviously protoss requires no skill and blindly a-moving results in a win every time, with no actual knowledge of timings, micro or macro at all, and no user is biased to their own race at all.

Also, terran bioball also autoforms, i dont understand why that is even an issue or a point of contention.

these posts sound like something out of combat ex... I don't even know why I even participate in this kind of discussion, its retarded.
Chill: "Please let us know when you will be streaming yourself eating a hat so I can put it on the calendar. Thanks."
BWILLdur
Profile Joined October 2010
United States100 Posts
April 24 2011 05:17 GMT
#185
Thanks Artosis, sick interviews.
ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
April 24 2011 05:18 GMT
#186
i wish that balance wasn't an issue because it's not, the games fine and that's why players from each race win their fair share
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 05:20:45
April 24 2011 05:20 GMT
#187
Alright, my longshot guess would be IMmoonglade.

EDIT: IMartosis? :D
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 05:23:49
April 24 2011 05:21 GMT
#188
On April 24 2011 14:18 Drazzyo wrote:
i wish that balance wasn't an issue because it's not, the games fine and that's why players from each race win their fair share


The amount of money and professional prestige these pros gain hinges upon the relative power of the race they play. Of course they care about balance - the stronger the realistic power of the race, and the weaker the perceived power of the race, the better - so everyone whines to some extent. No professional player will publicly state that the race he/she plays is overpowered.

12 years later, every single Terran player in BW still thinks they play the underpowered race.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 24 2011 05:23 GMT
#189
On April 24 2011 14:21 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 14:18 Drazzyo wrote:
i wish that balance wasn't an issue because it's not, the games fine and that's why players from each race win their fair share


The amount of money and professional prestige these pros gain hinges upon the relative power of the race they play. Of course they care about balance - and the stronger the race, the better, so everyone whines to some extent. No professional player will publicly state that the race he/she plays is overpowered.

12 years later, every single Terran player in BW still thinks they play the underpowered race.


It's funny, because so many Bonjwas have been Terran...chance? LOL. Tanks, tanks, and more tanks...
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Euclid
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada126 Posts
April 24 2011 05:24 GMT
#190
Terran weakest? I lol'ed pretty hard. Just because MVP said it doesn't make it true. Try asking some zerg and protoss pros.
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
April 24 2011 05:25 GMT
#191
On April 24 2011 14:21 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 14:18 Drazzyo wrote:
i wish that balance wasn't an issue because it's not, the games fine and that's why players from each race win their fair share


The amount of money and professional prestige these pros gain hinges upon the relative power of the race they play. Of course they care about balance - and the stronger the race, the better, so everyone whines to some extent. No professional player will publicly state that the race he/she plays is overpowered.

12 years later, every single Terran player in BW still thinks they play the underpowered race.


Which I think is one reason why every race is so defensive about balance-- no one wants to be the Protoss of SC:BW, the "unfinished" race which had a few heroes but which by and large has not been on par with Zerg, and certainly not Terran.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 05:26:05
April 24 2011 05:25 GMT
#192
so I just noticed, it looks like some players don't play with any sound

wonder how much it helps with training

probably puts a lot more focus on keeping track of what's happening on the mini map
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
April 24 2011 05:25 GMT
#193
<3 artosis, such a nerd baller as tasteless would say :D
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
April 24 2011 05:26 GMT
#194
The fact that the coach said P>T>Z means a ton more than what the players say. But if a coach thinks the races are imbalanced that means a lot really.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 24 2011 05:26 GMT
#195
On April 24 2011 14:15 Synk wrote:
I think the really telling thing is the fact the IM coach is saying the game needs to be balanced better by Blizzard. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that in this thread yet.

I trust the coaches opinion on balance more so than any of the players since he's exposed to all of it through his players, and has the least motivation for bias surrounding his answer.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
April 24 2011 05:27 GMT
#196
On April 24 2011 14:25 udgnim wrote:
so I just noticed, it looks like some players don't play with any sound

wonder how much it helps with training


SlayerSAlicia mentioned in a recent interview that his biggest shock in GSTL was playing with music, he said it totally wrecked his concentration. I think it must help a good deal, will definitely be playing without music in the near future to test it out.

That being said, some players were also clearly playing casually. There was one Terran guy on the left-hand wall of the room playing with one hand haha. I think most players still keep sound on.
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
April 24 2011 05:31 GMT
#197
after the shit ton of T nerfs and the changing of the map pool, its understandable as to why mvp isn't too happy with T. At the same time the map pool is way better than it was before, even if it's disadvantageous to T somewhat.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
April 24 2011 05:31 GMT
#198
On April 24 2011 14:02 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:43 FezTheCaliph wrote:
Ok calling it now. IMSEn

You mean IMZergKing?


i think so too
maybe after sen finished university
FTD
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
April 24 2011 05:35 GMT
#199
Please somebody convince me that large maps don't hurt terran and favor the other races? Please....I want to learn these magical secrets!


And I might be mixing up Naniwa with another player but I know for a fact that Dimaga wants to stay in Europe.
Vincere Vel Mori
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 05:37:02
April 24 2011 05:35 GMT
#200
Great stuff Artosis. As always delivering interesting interviews. I enjoyed this set of videos a lot.
Thank you so much.
Edit. Hwani is such a baller
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