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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
On April 08 2011 06:28 suejak wrote: Did you even read the post? The protoss was complaining about lag. Can you guys just shut up and watch the replay? If you can't download the replay, then just say so (and shut up). Stop being so actively counterproductive. Im confused  | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
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pwncakery
Canada131 Posts
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nuMi22
United Kingdom165 Posts
2) I'm not sure you've even watched the replay yourself, he literally only has to A move to the back of your base and it's over. I have no idea why you've posted this on here, it's not even close. 3) For the life of me I can't understand why you couldn't have worked out for yourself that you had CLEARLY lost this game, and the poll will only make you look ridiculous. 4) On the other hand, I don't know too many people that would just leave when they know they have a chance at a disconnect win. Very few, but if you actually watch the replay and don't get caught up in the 'amount of mining bases' and 'upgrade advantage', you can clearly see it's more than over at that point, and therefore must be able to see why he's pissed off. 5) He's not nearly as pissed off as others would be, you've made him out to be the bad guy when he's clearly not. | ||
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spbelky
United States623 Posts
On April 08 2011 06:46 MrGingerKid wrote: Ah, my fault. I apologize. I did just watch the replay though and I am sorry to say that toss had the upper hand at the end. While his natural was running low his army composition was much stronger than yours. Even though he was about to run out of money I can almost assure you he was about to attack your front which would've ended the game right away. You had 11 marauders 4 of which were on the other side of the map, 2 more marauders and a viking in production. The colossus, zealots, and stalkers would've cleaned up the marauders in no time so the vikings wouldn't even have been able to kill one colossus. If you pulled all your scvs you may have barely held, but then ironically he would have more income than you. Sorry but I'm going to have to go with toss. EDIT: Just looked at the upgrade situation and the battle may have been closer than I thought, but I still think the colossus would've cleaned up nicely. 2nd EDIT (lol): he had a colossus and enough resources to warp in 5 or so more units. Well thank you for watching the replay, now I know at least one of the votes is legitimate! However, I don't think you're giving enough credit for 3/2marauders with a personal medivac each and their ability to shoot kite gateway units, especially when they just come streaming in one at a time. Now if he took the time to group up and attack, yes his army probably would have beat mine, but that time spent preparing for the attack would have allowed me to produce more units. And again if he did wait for the 3rd colossus and a round of warp-ins, and then walking them over to my base, I'm pretty sure my ability to produce units at that point in the game was handedly ahead of his. | ||
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_Search_
Canada180 Posts
- It was 25 minutes into the game (favoring the Toss) - his army was stronger - he was ahead in supply and 16 of your supply was medivacs, meaning not going to be terribly helpful when the fight happens - Your drop wouldn't have done much, it was just going to be an a-click big battle ending and the toss would have won. | ||
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spbelky
United States623 Posts
On April 08 2011 07:05 nuMi22 wrote: 2) I'm not sure you've even watched the replay yourself, he literally only has to A move to the back of your base and it's over. I have no idea why you've posted this on here, it's not even close. If he A moves to my base the way his army is set up, I will 1shot each unit as it comes streaming in lol... easily. | ||
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lyAsakura
United States1414 Posts
You would have lost... No doubt about it... He doesn't even need anymore econ, you can't hold any more by pulling scvs like you've done all game and after you inevitably lose your natural, you will have no income at all just like him except he has a standing army and map control. In the inevitable battle at your natural, if your marauders even kill 2 zealots ill be very surprised indeed. The vikings won't kill anything because you have nothing to tank the stalkers for them... Here's some screen shots: + Show Spoiler + Toss army: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/uhDC9.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/lsXCH.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/Kxeq3.jpg) + Show Spoiler + I can't believe anyone would think terran woulda won... | ||
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nuMi22
United Kingdom165 Posts
If he A moves to my base the way his army is set up, I will 1shot each unit as it comes streaming in lol... easily. Don't be so facetious, you know exactly what I meant. The fact that you have no reply other than this pathetic attempt proves my points precisely. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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spbelky
United States623 Posts
On April 08 2011 07:11 nuMi22 wrote: Don't be so facetious, you know exactly what I meant. The fact that you have no reply other than this pathetic attempt proves my points precisely. Sorry, when someone says "literally BLANK" I usually take them literally. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On April 08 2011 07:13 KevinIX wrote: Did you guys honestly watch the replay? The Protoss was not that much bigger than the Terran. If the Terran pulled his scv's he would have just barely won the battle with those medivacs. He had a big enough army to roll straight into the T's main. His economy being trashed was irrelevant. | ||
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nuMi22
United Kingdom165 Posts
Sorry, when someone says "literally BLANK" I usually take them literally. You're taking it for me meaning that I expect him not to group his units together first? I'm sorry but you know exactly what I meant and you're just being a total troll. Read over the thread, everyone is telling you how over the game was and by a long way. You're just clutching at straws, why don't you just accept that he would easily have won? It was a ladder game, do you honestly have that much pride? | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
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MrGingerKid
United States63 Posts
On April 08 2011 07:18 sekritzzz wrote: clearly protoss, what could you have done? are u going to heal his collusus to death? A bit bm, but this still made me lol. | ||
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StallingHard
144 Posts
Your armor is what really matters here, because your attack upgrades won't matter a big deal vs the zealot shield wall up front. And taking 3 damage from stalkers and collosi won't be that big a deal (it will be a big deal vs the zealots but they're not going to be doing the damage) Don't come in here asking for opinions from people and then immediately refute what they say with oh but upgrades. Your upgrades meant nothing against that army comp. If it was an all stalker army I'd say you have a good chance. Unfortunately, b/c of the zealot wall, your lack of marines and vikings, and overabundance of army value in medivacs, you will 100% lose this. Were this a TSL match the refs would 100% give the win to the protoss player. | ||
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SkaPunk
United States471 Posts
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suejak
Japan545 Posts
Anyway, he had a huge advantage, but it was not 100% clear who would win. Perfectly played, his 2-colossi stalker-zealot mix would eat through your army no prob. | ||
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spbelky
United States623 Posts
On April 08 2011 07:25 StallingHard wrote: Is this some sort of ban trap for the mods to see who actually watches the replays? It's pretty clear protoss is going to win. Terran has 11 maras, 8 medivacs, 3 vikings as his effective fighting force vs protoss with 5 zeals, 2 collosi, 16 stalkers. Zeals will tank mara shots while stalkers and collosi proceed to roll your army. Medivacs can't heal things that are being 1-shot. And about that post-game graph, you have so much of your army value tied up in those medivacs, a full 800/800 and they're going to be nigh on useless. Your armor is what really matters here, because your attack upgrades won't matter a big deal vs the zealot shield wall up front. And taking 3 damage from stalkers and collosi won't be that big a deal (it will be a big deal vs the zealots but they're not going to be doing the damage) Don't come in here asking for opinions from people and then immediately refute what they say with oh but upgrades. Your upgrades meant nothing against that army comp. If it was an all stalker army I'd say you have a good chance. Unfortunately, b/c of the zealot wall, your lack of marines and vikings, and overabundance of army value in medivacs, you will 100% lose this. Were this a TSL match the refs would 100% give the win to the protoss player. This is exactly what I'm talking about though, the zealots are nowhere near my base and zealots are not exactly fast units. Everyone keeps saying "oh if the zealots tank the damage while the nicely grouped and formed stalker/colossus army rolls in behind them, your army is gonna get raped." While this is a true statement, in order for it to occur would have taken time, time with which I could have reinforced pretty quickly. I'm only trying to argue that this was not a clear victory for the protoss, that's all, and I'm glad you're not a TSL match ref. | ||
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