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On April 08 2011 04:41 Megaliskuu wrote:
I'm pretty sure once he gets on a team that sponsors him to tourneys, something that few people ever had in BW, he won't clan hop anymore. All he needs to work on now is his attitude.
Until a clan that sponsors him in tourneys and offers him a salary comes along right? And then a team that offers both of those plus free equipment right?
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On April 08 2011 04:43 jester- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 04:41 Megaliskuu wrote:
I'm pretty sure once he gets on a team that sponsors him to tourneys, something that few people ever had in BW, he won't clan hop anymore. All he needs to work on now is his attitude. Until a clan that sponsors him in tourneys and offers him a salary comes along right? And then a team that offers both of those plus free equipment right?
idk bout salary but according to his post in this thread it sounds like he's already joining a sponsored clan.
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good ol catz
Keep building your team the way you see fit. No matter how good someone's potential is, if he doesn't fit into the group, it's not worth the hassle. 
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haha this has turned out how i feel most people would... Root is strong w/o him they'll find a suitable replacement
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a 17 year old diva, someone needs to put this bitch in his place.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On April 08 2011 04:17 Zlasher wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 21:50 bmml wrote:On April 07 2011 21:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:On April 07 2011 20:24 bmml wrote:
Wish poeple would just lay off, he may be a notorious clan jumper but he didn't do anything to ROOT. Its their choice whether they ask him to join knowing that he could possibly leave, he has the right to move when he pleases. I'd assume due to ROOT's odd status in regards to sponsors there is no real formal contractual agreement among members (though I'm probably wrong). Anyway what I'm saying is tease him all you want, even point out he was a bit of an ass in the past but overally Terran is a bit of a boss so just give him a break. Not like the SC2 gods declared thou shalt not leave a clan if you do not like it. He did this in BW, he's doing it again in SC2. He wants a team that will support him in sponsoring him to go to different events, but I doubt any team that could afford it at this point would bother. As several people have said, he bounced between teams like a pinball in BW, changing almost weekly. It shows a major lack of professionalism, and I really don't care what age he is, if he's seeking sponsorship, he should be able to show maturity and respect. Naniwa has done exactly the same thing and doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid yet people dont give him an unbelieviably hard time. The way I see it ROOT has a responsibility to make it clear what they can offer their members and if a member doesn't get what they think they deserve, why the hell can't they leave. People need to get off their high horses, just because you leave a clan or team doesnt make you a bad person and demonising him as such is just silly. Sure its expected but it doesnt mean he should be public enemy number one just because people seem to love ROOT all of a sudden. Not the same situations though lol, Naniwa was kicked off a team for getting kicked otu of the EPS, then was given a chance by Empire to prove himself, where he did, and moved on to Dignitas because he needed a team that would offer him sustainability and the chance to show himself as one of the best players in Europe. He's proved himself over time.
Apparently you've ignored the other three teams involved in Nani's past, SG, MYM and PwG.
Anyway I've given up at this point, everyone seems to be so hung up on the bushido of ESPORTS and whiteknighting ROOT that it isn't even worth trying to stick up for someone getting trashed for getting removed from a team they didn't fit into.
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On April 08 2011 04:41 Megaliskuu wrote:
I'm pretty sure once he gets on a team that sponsors him to tourneys, something that few people ever had in BW, he won't clan hop anymore. All he needs to work on now is his attitude.
Maybe you're right, but what team would want a person like Juan? Skill is not the only thing that matters when you're playing for a sponsored team or organisation. First of all you have to know how to behave correctly and not be some stupid kid with attitude problems which will later hit back on the team and sponsors. Second of all, its highly recommended to fit in with the rest of the team to get a great atmosphere and whats the point of recruiting a BM kid like Juan when everyone knows he will just leave in days or weeks. And after trashing your ex team's sponsors... well I don't really know what the fuck to say about that...
But up and coming teams in the scene will unfortunely continue to pick him up just because hes a good player and they want fame instead a stable team, too bad he won't give anything back than just problems in the end.
But yeah, I can't see any big organisation in the size of Fnatic, EG, SK etc to pick him up any time soon, well maybe if he would turn out to be some kind of Flash of SC2 and bring in a shitload of money.
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On April 08 2011 05:03 bmml wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 04:17 Zlasher wrote:On April 07 2011 21:50 bmml wrote:On April 07 2011 21:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:On April 07 2011 20:24 bmml wrote:
Wish poeple would just lay off, he may be a notorious clan jumper but he didn't do anything to ROOT. Its their choice whether they ask him to join knowing that he could possibly leave, he has the right to move when he pleases. I'd assume due to ROOT's odd status in regards to sponsors there is no real formal contractual agreement among members (though I'm probably wrong). Anyway what I'm saying is tease him all you want, even point out he was a bit of an ass in the past but overally Terran is a bit of a boss so just give him a break. Not like the SC2 gods declared thou shalt not leave a clan if you do not like it. He did this in BW, he's doing it again in SC2. He wants a team that will support him in sponsoring him to go to different events, but I doubt any team that could afford it at this point would bother. As several people have said, he bounced between teams like a pinball in BW, changing almost weekly. It shows a major lack of professionalism, and I really don't care what age he is, if he's seeking sponsorship, he should be able to show maturity and respect. Naniwa has done exactly the same thing and doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid yet people dont give him an unbelieviably hard time. The way I see it ROOT has a responsibility to make it clear what they can offer their members and if a member doesn't get what they think they deserve, why the hell can't they leave. People need to get off their high horses, just because you leave a clan or team doesnt make you a bad person and demonising him as such is just silly. Sure its expected but it doesnt mean he should be public enemy number one just because people seem to love ROOT all of a sudden. Not the same situations though lol, Naniwa was kicked off a team for getting kicked otu of the EPS, then was given a chance by Empire to prove himself, where he did, and moved on to Dignitas because he needed a team that would offer him sustainability and the chance to show himself as one of the best players in Europe. He's proved himself over time. Apparently you've ignored the other three teams involved in Nani's past, SG, MYM and PwG. Anyway I've given up at this point, everyone seems to be so hung up on the bushido of ESPORTS and whiteknighting ROOT that it isn't even worth trying to stick up for someone getting trashed for getting removed from a team they didn't fit into.
He isn't getting trashed for leaving, he is getting trashed for this comment:
On April 07 2011 19:42 Gositerran wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN
As far as I could tell, most people, prior to this statement, just thought it was funny that the guy that used to clan hop constantly in BW is doing the same thing in SC2. But to publicly attack and be disrespectful to a team that gave you a shot is just completely immature and uncalled for.
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On April 08 2011 00:01 Ganjamaster wrote:
LOL no, whereas your comparison to Chad Ochocinco (formerly known as Chad Johnson) is correct and was mentioned in the thread as well, JimmyVai was referring to another mexican player who goes by ChavoDelOcho. At the time I did not know that and just thought he was referencing the popular sitcom character that gives the series its name the "Chavo del Ocho", which in english roughly translates to "The dude from the eighth floor". This character is used in many latin countries to signify someone who doesn´t exist such as "your only friend is the chavo del ocho" meaning nobody is really your friend.
Just a minor correction. You state that "Chavo del Ocho" roughly translates to "The dude from the eighth floor." It's actually wrong. The name comes because on the show, "el chavo" or "the dude", an orphan mexican child who once lived in apartmen #8 (ocho) of a poor condominium and is now forced to live inside of a barrel due to circumstances unknown to the viewer. Therefore, the name "Chavo del Ocho" is more correctly translated as "dude from the eighth." I watched this series all the time growing up. I know this, lol.
Also, I lived in Mexico for 20 years and I've never heard of someone referencing chavo del ocho to mean that nobody is your friend, and the show is from Mexico.
Not that it matters to this discussion. LoWJimRiSing was actually talking about the Mexican SC2 player, "ChavoDelOcho."
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R1CH should write a script to replace every reply in this thread to "HAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahaha"
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On April 08 2011 05:40 RommelTJ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 00:01 Ganjamaster wrote:
LOL no, whereas your comparison to Chad Ochocinco (formerly known as Chad Johnson) is correct and was mentioned in the thread as well, JimmyVai was referring to another mexican player who goes by ChavoDelOcho. At the time I did not know that and just thought he was referencing the popular sitcom character that gives the series its name the "Chavo del Ocho", which in english roughly translates to "The dude from the eighth floor". This character is used in many latin countries to signify someone who doesn´t exist such as "your only friend is the chavo del ocho" meaning nobody is really your friend.
Just a minor correction. You state that "Chavo del Ocho" roughly translates to "The dude from the eighth floor." It's actually wrong. The name comes because on the show, "el chavo" or "the dude", an orphan mexican child who once lived in apartmen #8 (ocho) of a poor condominium and is now forced to live inside of a barrel due to circumstances unknown to the viewer. Therefore, the name "Chavo del Ocho" is more correctly translated as "dude from the eighth." I watched this series all the time growing up. I know this, lol. Also, I lived in Mexico for 20 years and I've never heard of someone referencing chavo del ocho to mean that nobody is your friend, and the show is from Mexico. Not that it matters to this discussion. LoWJimRiSing was actually talking about the Mexican SC2 player, "ChavoDelOcho."
Well, apartment 8 could potentially be on the 8th floor... I also watched said show when growing up. And maybe the expression is used here but not there. But if I were to say to you "Go hang out with el chavo del ocho" it is analogous to saying go chill with your imaginary friend since el chavo del ocho is a fictional character.
But lets continue with the [GosI]Terran flaming shall we? lol
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So this means that ROOT will be recruiting a new terran soon?
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It's too bad he team hops a lot, guy has a lot of talent and solid mechanics. I would imagine teams in the future will just not even both signing him with his track record.
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if you're a terran and need a team...you should ask ROOT
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It sounds like he left for the money. Qxc and Sheth did the whole thing. Seems like people are judging him on his brood war history and being overly critical.
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Sooner or later you will find that you have to actually work for things in life in order to achieve your goals and that in the end of the day reputation is everything.
I'm sure ROOT will fine without him and I hope that Terran matures and grows into an even better player.
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Everybody saw this coming from Juan... typical of him, giving himself a reputation since brood war.
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On April 07 2011 22:08 mindspike wrote:Show nested quote +People need to get off their high horses, just because you leave a clan or team doesnt make you a bad person and demonising him as such is just silly. Sure its expected but it doesnt mean he should be public enemy number one just because people seem to love ROOT all of a sudden. Do you see people trashing on QXC or Sheth? It has more to do with how he left.
Right, because QXC and Sheth left due to money/sponsorship issue, which is understandable. Kitty, on the other hand, left due to money/sponsorship issues, which makes him an immature douche.
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On April 08 2011 05:16 Charger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 05:03 bmml wrote:On April 08 2011 04:17 Zlasher wrote:On April 07 2011 21:50 bmml wrote:On April 07 2011 21:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:On April 07 2011 20:24 bmml wrote:
Wish poeple would just lay off, he may be a notorious clan jumper but he didn't do anything to ROOT. Its their choice whether they ask him to join knowing that he could possibly leave, he has the right to move when he pleases. I'd assume due to ROOT's odd status in regards to sponsors there is no real formal contractual agreement among members (though I'm probably wrong). Anyway what I'm saying is tease him all you want, even point out he was a bit of an ass in the past but overally Terran is a bit of a boss so just give him a break. Not like the SC2 gods declared thou shalt not leave a clan if you do not like it. He did this in BW, he's doing it again in SC2. He wants a team that will support him in sponsoring him to go to different events, but I doubt any team that could afford it at this point would bother. As several people have said, he bounced between teams like a pinball in BW, changing almost weekly. It shows a major lack of professionalism, and I really don't care what age he is, if he's seeking sponsorship, he should be able to show maturity and respect. Naniwa has done exactly the same thing and doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid yet people dont give him an unbelieviably hard time. The way I see it ROOT has a responsibility to make it clear what they can offer their members and if a member doesn't get what they think they deserve, why the hell can't they leave. People need to get off their high horses, just because you leave a clan or team doesnt make you a bad person and demonising him as such is just silly. Sure its expected but it doesnt mean he should be public enemy number one just because people seem to love ROOT all of a sudden. Not the same situations though lol, Naniwa was kicked off a team for getting kicked otu of the EPS, then was given a chance by Empire to prove himself, where he did, and moved on to Dignitas because he needed a team that would offer him sustainability and the chance to show himself as one of the best players in Europe. He's proved himself over time. Apparently you've ignored the other three teams involved in Nani's past, SG, MYM and PwG. Anyway I've given up at this point, everyone seems to be so hung up on the bushido of ESPORTS and whiteknighting ROOT that it isn't even worth trying to stick up for someone getting trashed for getting removed from a team they didn't fit into. He isn't getting trashed for leaving, he is getting trashed for this comment: Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 19:42 Gositerran wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN As far as I could tell, most people, prior to this statement, just thought it was funny that the guy that used to clan hop constantly in BW is doing the same thing in SC2. But to publicly attack and be disrespectful to a team that gave you a shot is just completely immature and uncalled for.
Hmm I didn't read it as an attack on ROOT. Maybe I'm missing something?
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I think you could have made a better pun out of this...
Gosl[Terran] upROOTs
Gosl[Terran] decides not to put down his ROOTs
Gosl[Terran] gets to the ROOT of the matter
Gosl[Terran] gets ROOTed up
Gosl[Terran] apparently not ROOTed to the spot
Gosl[Terran] ROOTed out
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